From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Tue Mar  1 11:20:17 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:20:17 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Ace Monster Toys at Make:SF meetup April 5th & 12th
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Who wants to talk about AMT at Make:SF next month? Can you come up
with a short paragraph describing what you're going to talk about?

We need to get something back to Andrew today.

--
Heph

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:  <andrew at coolaboratory.com>
Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Ace Monster Toys at Make:SF meetup April 5th & 12th
To: Hephaestus <heph at h3ph.com>


Hi Heph,

Yes! Please do present at the April meetings. I'm about to post the
announcement, so if you could provide me with a paragraph describing
what you'll be talking about I'll send it out to our list.

It could be enough just to have a couple sentences about what Ace
Monster Toys is, and some description of the other bits. (Showing some
of the toys built in the shop with MakerBots (and/or other tools).

The meetings will be:
April 5th @ 7:00 PM at
Tech Liminal
268 14th St.
Oakland

And:
April 12th @ 6:30PM at
Tech Shop SoMa
926 Howard St
San Francisco

We'll have a video projector at each location if you'd like to show
photos of Ace Monster Toys, or projects too large to transport.

Let me know if you have any questions. I'd like to send the
announcement in the next day or two.

Thanks!
-Andrew



-----Original Message-----
From: "Hephaestus" <heph at h3ph.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:31pm
To: andrew at coolaboratory.com
Cc: chriszf at gmail.com, anca at techliminal.com, "Malcolm Knapp"
<malcolm.knapp at gmail.com>, "Ace Monster Toys Discussion"
<discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
Subject: Re: Ace Monster Toys at Make:SF meetup April 5th & 12th

Andrew,

I'm sorry it's taken so long for me to get back to you, I've been busy
with our own version (5MoF) and then Dorkbot. If we're still invited
to the April Make:SF we'd love to come and talk about the space. If
it's okay, I'd like to bring some of the toys we built in our shop
with the help of the makerbots to show off.

Let us know if you have any special requests, or if we should just
come up with some random bits to talk about. We'll have a couple of
guys at the next Make:SF (March 8th?) to see how it's all run and make
sure we put on a good show =]

--
Heph

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:56 PM, ?<andrew at coolaboratory.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I wanted to get an email thread going on this... Great that you guys were on IRC!
>
> We are a local group and psyched that you guys have set up a hacker space in Oakland. We'd be happy to collaborate and share any ideas or resources that will help us all to thrive. It's pretty lean on time and resources, but we've been around for a couple of years and have a decent number of members (600+).
>
> My goal is to make Make:SF a gateway drug for hacker spaces (you & Noisebridge) and TechShop, (Crucible?), etc. If we can hook people and they want to be more active we'll send them your way.
>
> In the near term we have meetings once a month at Tech Liminal in Oakland and TechShop in SF. They run about 2 hours, 15-25 people, it's a combo of demo night/workshops/guest speakers. The workshops are capped at 45 minutes and $25-ish, just something to let people get started. Membership is $10/half year. So it's time and money affordable... a bump up in commitment from sitting at home reading Make Magazine.
>
> So... to get things started. We'd like to book you (or whoever has time) from Ace Monster Toys to talk about your space and perhaps discuss what you've been doing with your MakerBots. MakerBot have been a popular topic. We (Make:SF) have one at TechLiminal that we rent to members, but we just got it running smoothly in the last month or two. Could be practice for what you want to present at MakerFaire.
>
> The other half of the meeting I'll be doing the workshop. A SUPER basic intro to programming in 'Processing' with the goal of creating an .STL file that people could output if they comeback to use the MakerBot.
>
> And... if there's anything else we can do to promote you guys on our site or to our members let us know. We'll be sending out an announcement March 1st to describe the Meetup, and can include links to your site, or whatever you'd like to link to.
>
> Think about who and what you'd like to present... and we'll go from there. Feel free to contact me with any questions.
>
> Thanks,
> -Andrew
>
> http://www.makesf.org
>
>
> _ __? ___?? ____??? _____???? ______????? _______
> Andrew G. Milmoe
> Twitter: @Coolaboratory
> http://www.Coolaboratory.com
>
>


From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Tue Mar  1 13:28:25 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:28:25 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] March 17th 5MoF Call For Speakers!
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=c5KvomZcC5uO=vjxKJtPQAQA-brnNEux=qwqb@mail.gmail.com>

Good Morning, Hackers.

March is here and that means it's time for another Five Minutes of
Fame at Noisebridge (2169 Mission)! Last month we were entertained by
the VJacket, artificial languages, and a computer built on top of
identi.ca!

This month it's all up to you. Our next 5MoF is March 17th at 8pm. You
bring a crazy idea or a great project you've been working on, we'll
give you five minutes with a projector, microphone, and an audience of
SF's finest hackers.

Submit your talk now at http://5mof.net/contact/ to get on the
schedule for March!

--
Hephaestus
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Five_Minutes_of_Fame


From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar  1 14:35:22 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:35:22 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
Message-ID: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>

Hi,

Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now:  We need more classes and workshops at AMT.

We're differentiating these as:

1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight hours long.

There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.

All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we have something to offer to the public.

So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop every other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a workshop and not a class per David.)

I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is now).

Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please add them to our wiki at http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes. Ideally, I'd like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple of months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our 501(c)(3) process.

For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already, let's start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having them happen.

Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.

Al

From drorex at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 14:44:51 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:44:51 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimqPoPO_rmBMrSstKOhMa+WtF7rvp=fFcGkE6YG@mail.gmail.com>

Nobody explained what the difference between workshop and class was to
me...so I called it a workshop.

Yeah, we need to really get moving on this, 501c3 status makes a ton of
stuff easier for us (can get more donations, pay less fees for other things
that have non-profit discounts, etc etc)

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now:  We need more classes and
> workshops at AMT.
>
> We're differentiating these as:
>
> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least
> one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight
> hours long.
>
> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing
> class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
>
> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is part
> of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we have
> something to offer to the public.
>
> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class
> for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop every
> other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a
> workshop and not a class per David.)
>
> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot
> operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is
> now).
>
> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please add
> them to our wiki at
> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes. Ideally,
> I'd like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple
> of months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our
> 501(c)(3) process.
>
> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already, let's
> start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having them
> happen.
>
> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
>
> Al
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar  1 16:28:12 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:28:12 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Lasers
Message-ID: <2BD1A0E8-65FF-498D-B7BD-81DD0037DEE5@openbuddha.com>

For those that don't know, those of us working on getting a laser cutter in the space have been working off to the side on google groups. We've got pledges for amounts so we're pretty close on deciding what to get.

I wanted to ask people to add information to the Laser Cutter page at http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Laser_Cutter if they know of good resources on laser cutting or links to laser cutting resources other hackerspaces have put up. We're not remotely the first to do this (though our laser is likely to have more power than most).

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar  1 19:05:49 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:05:49 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Nixie
Message-ID: <E22FB7C3-5E7D-4388-B4CB-19D6214CFDF2@openbuddha.com>

Does anyone have a good source for reliable nixie tubes that aren't overblown in price?

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar  1 23:26:08 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 23:26:08 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] We have a Facebook page
Message-ID: <101FF631-58BC-4636-8BAD-38861B27EAD1@openbuddha.com>

I know us old folks don't like Facebook but all the young kids these days seem to...

I made a Facebook page for us. We had an old community (which should probably be deleted) that wasn't use. The new page imports our RSS feed and I'd like to figure out how to import the events from our Google calendar.

If you have a Facebook account, go to http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ace-Monster-Toys/131833036885006, "like" us so we can get enough people to get our own username, and tell your friends!

Al



From siris at hackaudio.org  Wed Mar  2 16:55:45 2011
From: siris at hackaudio.org (siris)
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:55:45 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>

I would be willing to do  a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime 
kernel patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is 
interested.

On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now:  We need more classes and workshops at AMT.
>
> We're differentiating these as:
>
> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight hours long.
>
> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
>
> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we have something to offer to the public.
>
> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop every other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a workshop and not a class per David.)
>
> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is now).
>
> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please add them to our wiki at http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes. Ideally, I'd like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple of months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our 501(c)(3) process.
>
> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already, let's start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having them happen.
>
> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
>
> Al
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From chriszf at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 17:10:31 2011
From: chriszf at gmail.com (Christian Fernandez)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:10:31 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
	<4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpPcwq41X_09FP-vVhxbdg+J+xwPGK_YqAW7Ws@mail.gmail.com>

Absolutely, please schedule it and throw it on the calendar.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:55 PM, siris <siris at hackaudio.org> wrote:
> I would be willing to do ?a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime kernel
> patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is interested.
>
> On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now: ?We need more classes and
>> workshops at AMT.
>>
>> We're differentiating these as:
>>
>> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least
>> one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
>> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight
>> hours long.
>>
>> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing
>> class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
>>
>> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is
>> part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we have
>> something to offer to the public.
>>
>> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class
>> for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop every
>> other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a
>> workshop and not a class per David.)
>>
>> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot
>> operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is
>> now).
>>
>> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please add
>> them to our wiki at
>> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes. Ideally, I'd
>> like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple of
>> months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our
>> 501(c)(3) process.
>>
>> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already, let's
>> start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having them
>> happen.
>>
>> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
>>
>> Al
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From jackaperkins at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 17:13:57 2011
From: jackaperkins at gmail.com (Jack Perkins)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:13:57 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
	<4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPq-QQGDiNx2BzkeSTd8HPHBV2_Y0rneWCKLL7@mail.gmail.com>

How does Ace feel about non-members running free classes? I've been on
this list forever, but haven't made it out to the space yet. I'm
interested in running classes/workshops like introductions to
Processing or Max/MSP

-Jack

p.s. linux audio would be an excellent class.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:55 PM, siris <siris at hackaudio.org> wrote:
> I would be willing to do ?a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime kernel
> patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is interested.
>
> On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now: ?We need more classes and
>> workshops at AMT.
>>
>> We're differentiating these as:
>>
>> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least
>> one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
>> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight
>> hours long.
>>
>> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing
>> class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
>>
>> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is
>> part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we have
>> something to offer to the public.
>>
>> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class
>> for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop every
>> other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a
>> workshop and not a class per David.)
>>
>> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot
>> operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is
>> now).
>>
>> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please add
>> them to our wiki at
>> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes. Ideally, I'd
>> like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple of
>> months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our
>> 501(c)(3) process.
>>
>> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already, let's
>> start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having them
>> happen.
>>
>> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
>>
>> Al
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From drorex at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 17:21:31 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:21:31 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimPq-QQGDiNx2BzkeSTd8HPHBV2_Y0rneWCKLL7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
	<4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
	<AANLkTimPq-QQGDiNx2BzkeSTd8HPHBV2_Y0rneWCKLL7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim+rJBOYx0icRPyxcV+1rYxfAMGR8puLbZTMrK3@mail.gmail.com>

Personally I think it's great. Those are exactly the kind of topics we're
interested in too.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jack Perkins <jackaperkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> How does Ace feel about non-members running free classes? I've been on
> this list forever, but haven't made it out to the space yet. I'm
> interested in running classes/workshops like introductions to
> Processing or Max/MSP
>
> -Jack
>
> p.s. linux audio would be an excellent class.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:55 PM, siris <siris at hackaudio.org> wrote:
> > I would be willing to do  a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime
> kernel
> > patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is
> interested.
> >
> > On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now:  We need more classes and
> >> workshops at AMT.
> >>
> >> We're differentiating these as:
> >>
> >> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least
> >> one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
> >> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight
> >> hours long.
> >>
> >> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing
> >> class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
> >>
> >> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is
> >> part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we
> have
> >> something to offer to the public.
> >>
> >> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class
> >> for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop
> every
> >> other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a
> >> workshop and not a class per David.)
> >>
> >> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot
> >> operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is
> >> now).
> >>
> >> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please
> add
> >> them to our wiki at
> >> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes.
> Ideally, I'd
> >> like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple
> of
> >> months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our
> >> 501(c)(3) process.
> >>
> >> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already,
> let's
> >> start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having
> them
> >> happen.
> >>
> >> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
> >>
> >> Al
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Discuss mailing list
> >> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> >> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 17:29:16 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:29:16 -0600
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+rJBOYx0icRPyxcV+1rYxfAMGR8puLbZTMrK3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
	<4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
	<AANLkTimPq-QQGDiNx2BzkeSTd8HPHBV2_Y0rneWCKLL7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim+rJBOYx0icRPyxcV+1rYxfAMGR8puLbZTMrK3@mail.gmail.com>
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I would love to learn about processing.
On Mar 2, 2011 5:21 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Personally I think it's great. Those are exactly the kind of topics we're
> interested in too.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jack Perkins <jackaperkins at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> How does Ace feel about non-members running free classes? I've been on
>> this list forever, but haven't made it out to the space yet. I'm
>> interested in running classes/workshops like introductions to
>> Processing or Max/MSP
>>
>> -Jack
>>
>> p.s. linux audio would be an excellent class.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:55 PM, siris <siris at hackaudio.org> wrote:
>> > I would be willing to do a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime
>> kernel
>> > patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is
>> interested.
>> >
>> > On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now: We need more classes and
>> >> workshops at AMT.
>> >>
>> >> We're differentiating these as:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at
least
>> >> one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
>> >> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to
eight
>> >> hours long.
>> >>
>> >> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing
>> >> class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
>> >>
>> >> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is
>> >> part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we
>> have
>> >> something to offer to the public.
>> >>
>> >> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python
class
>> >> for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop
>> every
>> >> other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a
>> >> workshop and not a class per David.)
>> >>
>> >> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot
>> >> operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David
is
>> >> now).
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please
>> add
>> >> them to our wiki at
>> >> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes.
>> Ideally, I'd
>> >> like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple
>> of
>> >> months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our
>> >> 501(c)(3) process.
>> >>
>> >> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already,
>> let's
>> >> start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having
>> them
>> >> happen.
>> >>
>> >> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
>> >>
>> >> Al
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Discuss mailing list
>> >> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> >> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From emprameen at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 17:30:38 2011
From: emprameen at gmail.com (Rameen)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:30:38 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
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I'd be into that too, Jack.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jack Perkins <jackaperkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> How does Ace feel about non-members running free classes? I've been on
> this list forever, but haven't made it out to the space yet. I'm
> interested in running classes/workshops like introductions to
> Processing or Max/MSP
>
> -Jack
>
> p.s. linux audio would be an excellent class.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:55 PM, siris <siris at hackaudio.org> wrote:
> > I would be willing to do  a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime
> kernel
> > patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is
> interested.
> >
> > On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now:  We need more classes and
> >> workshops at AMT.
> >>
> >> We're differentiating these as:
> >>
> >> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least
> >> one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
> >> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight
> >> hours long.
> >>
> >> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing
> >> class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
> >>
> >> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is
> >> part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we
> have
> >> something to offer to the public.
> >>
> >> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class
> >> for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop
> every
> >> other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a
> >> workshop and not a class per David.)
> >>
> >> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot
> >> operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is
> >> now).
> >>
> >> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please
> add
> >> them to our wiki at
> >> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes.
> Ideally, I'd
> >> like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple
> of
> >> months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our
> >> 501(c)(3) process.
> >>
> >> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already,
> let's
> >> start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having
> them
> >> happen.
> >>
> >> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
> >>
> >> Al
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Discuss mailing list
> >> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> >> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Wed Mar  2 17:15:26 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:15:26 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
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References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
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On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Jack Perkins wrote:

> How does Ace feel about non-members running free classes? I've been on
> this list forever, but haven't made it out to the space yet. I'm
> interested in running classes/workshops like introductions to
> Processing or Max/MSP

I don't see any problems with it. 

Al


From dijjital at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 17:40:47 2011
From: dijjital at gmail.com (Robb Pope)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:40:47 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <2430F6D5-F3CB-4A6D-A697-69EE606021BF@openbuddha.com>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
	<4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
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Yes, MaxMSP especially would be amazing!

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

>
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Jack Perkins wrote:
>
> > How does Ace feel about non-members running free classes? I've been on
> > this list forever, but haven't made it out to the space yet. I'm
> > interested in running classes/workshops like introductions to
> > Processing or Max/MSP
>
> I don't see any problems with it.
>
> Al
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From myles at tenhand.com  Wed Mar  2 17:42:27 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:42:27 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
	<4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
Message-ID: <CBABC764-F382-44BA-8756-C669A248C803@tenhand.com>

I'd like to do a class on solar power for renters & people worried about earthquakes: setting up a small system that can take your bedroom & cellphones off of the grid. 

One catch is that it's it's quite expensive if you're ordering in anything less than dozens: probably $120-200. In principle, one could DIY something that's half that. 

If anyone has gerber /surface mount board design chops & would like to work on a variation of the http://www.linear.com/product/lt3652 eval unit, please let me know. With a little good sourcing, it should be possible to build a $100 charger with 20 watts of panels & a LiFEPo4 battery that can power all sorts of USB & 12 volt stuff. 


On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:55 PM, siris wrote:

> I would be willing to do  a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime kernel patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is interested.
> 
> On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now:  We need more classes and workshops at AMT.
>> 
>> We're differentiating these as:
>> 
>> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
>> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight hours long.
>> 
>> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
>> 
>> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we have something to offer to the public.
>> 
>> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop every other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a workshop and not a class per David.)
>> 
>> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is now).
>> 
>> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please add them to our wiki at http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes. Ideally, I'd like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple of months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our 501(c)(3) process.
>> 
>> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already, let's start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having them happen.
>> 
>> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
>> 
>> Al
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From albill at openbuddha.com  Wed Mar  2 17:47:13 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:47:13 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <CBABC764-F382-44BA-8756-C669A248C803@tenhand.com>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
	<4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
	<CBABC764-F382-44BA-8756-C669A248C803@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <3882406A-6402-4F2F-80F1-160EC1602861@openbuddha.com>

I'd be up for this class. 

On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:42 PM, myles wrote:

> I'd like to do a class on solar power for renters & people worried about earthquakes: setting up a small system that can take your bedroom & cellphones off of the grid. 
> 
> One catch is that it's it's quite expensive if you're ordering in anything less than dozens: probably $120-200. In principle, one could DIY something that's half that. 
> 
> If anyone has gerber /surface mount board design chops & would like to work on a variation of the http://www.linear.com/product/lt3652 eval unit, please let me know. With a little good sourcing, it should be possible to build a $100 charger with 20 watts of panels & a LiFEPo4 battery that can power all sorts of USB & 12 volt stuff. 
> 

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From alxndr at gmail.com  Thu Mar  3 08:57:06 2011
From: alxndr at gmail.com (Alexander)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:57:06 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <3882406A-6402-4F2F-80F1-160EC1602861@openbuddha.com>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>
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I've taken the liberty of adding the ideas voiced here to the wiki:
http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes

I'd like to learn something (anything) about Processing, and solar power for
renters/apocalyphilists.

--leks


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 17:47, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> I'd be up for this class.
>
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:42 PM, myles wrote:
>
> I'd like to do a class on solar power for renters & people worried about
> earthquakes: setting up a small system that can take your bedroom &
> cellphones off of the grid.
>
> One catch is that it's it's quite expensive if you're ordering in anything
> less than dozens: probably $120-200. In principle, one could DIY something
> that's half that.
>
> If anyone has gerber /surface mount board design chops & would like to work
> on a variation of the http://www.linear.com/product/lt3652 eval unit,
> please let me know. With a little good sourcing, it should be possible to
> build a $100 charger with 20 watts of panels & a LiFEPo4 battery that can
> power all sorts of USB & 12 volt stuff.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
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From siris at hackaudio.org  Fri Mar  4 10:48:08 2011
From: siris at hackaudio.org (siris)
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:48:08 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
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I will have to check, but I think I can score us a bunch of free solar 
panels that someone said they would give me. They were dumpstered and 
are sitting at 5lowershop, I think, in some bus. They work fine, I'm 
told, the only hitch is that some of the fiberglass was cracked, so they 
couldn't be sold. Maybe issues with weatherproofing.

I know jack about solar panels, so they may prove useless, repairable, etc.

Very interested in a class on this, too. have panel; want to use.



On 3/2/2011 5:42 PM, myles wrote:
> I'd like to do a class on solar power for renters&  people worried about earthquakes: setting up a small system that can take your bedroom&  cellphones off of the grid.
>
> One catch is that it's it's quite expensive if you're ordering in anything less than dozens: probably $120-200. In principle, one could DIY something that's half that.
>
> If anyone has gerber /surface mount board design chops&  would like to work on a variation of the http://www.linear.com/product/lt3652 eval unit, please let me know. With a little good sourcing, it should be possible to build a $100 charger with 20 watts of panels&  a LiFEPo4 battery that can power all sorts of USB&  12 volt stuff.
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:55 PM, siris wrote:
>
>> I would be willing to do  a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime kernel patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is interested.
>>
>> On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now:  We need more classes and workshops at AMT.
>>>
>>> We're differentiating these as:
>>>
>>> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
>>> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight hours long.
>>>
>>> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
>>>
>>> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we have something to offer to the public.
>>>
>>> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop every other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a workshop and not a class per David.)
>>>
>>> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is now).
>>>
>>> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please add them to our wiki at http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes. Ideally, I'd like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple of months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our 501(c)(3) process.
>>>
>>> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already, let's start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having them happen.
>>>
>>> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
>>>
>>> Al
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From myles at tenhand.com  Fri Mar  4 11:02:16 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:02:16 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] More Classes or Workshops needed
In-Reply-To: <4D7133E8.8070008@hackaudio.org>
References: <1E64B58F-BAFA-490F-BAC7-CE989A8D0034@openbuddha.com>	<4D6EE711.3090509@hackaudio.org>
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Fixing broken solar panels is surprisingly hard. If you aren't careful, you end up with condensation, algae, continued fracturing &etc.  They're also more vulnerable to scary shorts & catching on fire. Disassembling panels is even worse, the glues on the front and back are too strong.  

I have had moderate success by simply building a glass box around the panels. You lose 1/3 of the watts, but reduce the other problems. I still wouldn't use the result for anything permanent, but they're great for powering a fountain, bike or something else you don't have to depend on.  For the class I had in mind, I'd be walking people through building a tool chest on wheels that has a big battery on it. These sketchy panels would be perfect for mounting on the toolchest, since you can take it out of the rain.

Get your name on those panels! 


On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:48 AM, siris wrote:

> I will have to check, but I think I can score us a bunch of free solar panels that someone said they would give me. They were dumpstered and are sitting at 5lowershop, I think, in some bus. They work fine, I'm told, the only hitch is that some of the fiberglass was cracked, so they couldn't be sold. Maybe issues with weatherproofing.
> 
> I know jack about solar panels, so they may prove useless, repairable, etc.
> 
> Very interested in a class on this, too. have panel; want to use.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/2/2011 5:42 PM, myles wrote:
>> I'd like to do a class on solar power for renters&  people worried about earthquakes: setting up a small system that can take your bedroom&  cellphones off of the grid.
>> 
>> One catch is that it's it's quite expensive if you're ordering in anything less than dozens: probably $120-200. In principle, one could DIY something that's half that.
>> 
>> If anyone has gerber /surface mount board design chops&  would like to work on a variation of the http://www.linear.com/product/lt3652 eval unit, please let me know. With a little good sourcing, it should be possible to build a $100 charger with 20 watts of panels&  a LiFEPo4 battery that can power all sorts of USB&  12 volt stuff.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:55 PM, siris wrote:
>> 
>>> I would be willing to do  a workshop or two on linux audio (realtime kernel patches, getting alsa working, jack, netjack, etc) if anyone is interested.
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/2011 2:35 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Putting on my bossy and annoying hat now:  We need more classes and workshops at AMT.
>>>> 
>>>> We're differentiating these as:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Classes are ongoing indefinite or longer term instruction of at least one hour per meeting. (Think of an 8 week class or somesuch.)
>>>> 2. Workshops are a one or two meeting event, anywhere from one to eight hours long.
>>>> 
>>>> There are a lot of things where it doesn't make sense to do an ongoing class but someone could easily do a two hour workshop.
>>>> 
>>>> All events like these are open to the public and doing these events is part of the basis of getting our 501(c)(3) status and showing that we have something to offer to the public.
>>>> 
>>>> So far, Christian has been running on ongoing Tuesday night Python class for beginners. David is doing an AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshop every other week on Wednesdays starting on 3/16. (I'm not sure why it is a workshop and not a class per David.)
>>>> 
>>>> I'm probably only qualified to teach meditation and maybe makerbot operation (though I'm not as good as Heiko or as experienced as David is now).
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone else have any suggestions for classes or workshops? Please add them to our wiki at http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Potential_Workshops_and_Classes. Ideally, I'd like to see another couple of classes and workshops in the next couple of months in order to get the ball really rolling and to also begin our 501(c)(3) process.
>>>> 
>>>> For those of you who put ideas and their names on the wiki already, let's start planning some dates and get down to the nitty gritty on having them happen.
>>>> 
>>>> Bossy (if not annoying) mode is now off.
>>>> 
>>>> Al
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar  4 11:12:16 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:12:16 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Introduction and offer of services
Message-ID: <AANLkTinC8OULX2Mzj8URBiPQq26TLWROCStuSq66cSxy@mail.gmail.com>

For the folks I didn't meet last night: hi! ?I'm Cliff. ?I'm here to
make friends and help them make things. ?It turns out I already "knew"
Andreas from the intarwebs.  Small world.

Some projects I'm currently interested in pursuing:
 - Making a better 3D printer.
 - Making printer software suck less (think: 1000x faster and more interactive).
 - Helping Andreas run a course on 3D printing.
 - Doing something ridiculous for your Maker Faire booth.
 - Rooting my Parrot ARDrone and making it into a general-purpose UAV.
 - Ensuring that you acquire a laser cutter.
 - Taking over small portions of the world (for starters).
 - Or, y'know, whatever.


Here are some things I do that might be useful to y'all:

?- I'm a 3D printing enthusiast and early MakerBot adopter.  (I
operate Eris, serial number 69.  Really.)  I'm pretty good at
calibrating MakerBots and making precise, snap-together parts.

?- My main specialty is high-performance computing of all shapes and
sizes, from kilobytes to petabytes, though since 2009 I've also become
pretty good at software security.  The projects I can discuss on the
record are listed on Ohloh: https://www.ohloh.net/accounts/cbiffle

 - I'm a pretty decent draftsman and CADder.  My preferred tool is
currently OpenSCAD.  My open-source designs are on Thingiverse:
http://thingiverse.com/cbiffle

?- Finally, I also have rudimentary PCB design/manufacturing skills,
decent SMT soldering skills, a psychology degree from a school best
known for drunkenness, a pretty reliable hard cider recipe (total
coincidence), a backyard full of chickens, a basement full of
disassembled robots, a vanity radio callsign (W7CLB), and I'm decent
on the dumbek and rusty at Esperanto.

If you have a project you think I could help with, let me know.

-Cliff L. Biffle


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri Mar  4 11:42:21 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:42:21 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Introduction and offer of services
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinC8OULX2Mzj8URBiPQq26TLWROCStuSq66cSxy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinC8OULX2Mzj8URBiPQq26TLWROCStuSq66cSxy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2AE43C95-69FF-4FA3-99A9-D7552AF7EE0D@openbuddha.com>

I will comment and ask questions!

On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Cliff Biffle wrote:

> For the folks I didn't meet last night: hi!  I'm Cliff.  I'm here to
> make friends and help them make things.  It turns out I already "knew"
> Andreas from the intarwebs.  Small world.

Good to meet you!

> Some projects I'm currently interested in pursuing:
> - Making a better 3D printer.

Can you elaborate? I'd like better 3D printers too!

> - Rooting my Parrot ARDrone and making it into a general-purpose UAV.

That would be sweet. We've spoken about building a fixed wing drone but I haven't gotten around to starting the project.

> - I'm a 3D printing enthusiast and early MakerBot adopter.  (I
> operate Eris, serial number 69.  Really.)  I'm pretty good at
> calibrating MakerBots and making precise, snap-together parts.

Oh, please god help us! :-)

I have a heated build platform to be assembled for Alice and I need to add the new mk6 plastruder when the conversion parts arrive next week (but I have to hack it to work with gen3 electronics).

> - I'm a pretty decent draftsman and CADder.  My preferred tool is
> currently OpenSCAD.  My open-source designs are on Thingiverse:
> http://thingiverse.com/cbiffle

Sweet. We could use more expertise in this area.

> - Finally, I also have rudimentary PCB design/manufacturing skills,
> decent SMT soldering skills, a psychology degree from a school best
> known for drunkenness, a pretty reliable hard cider recipe (total
> coincidence), a backyard full of chickens, a basement full of
> disassembled robots, a vanity radio callsign (W7CLB), and I'm decent
> on the dumbek and rusty at Esperanto.

You went to Chico?

Al




From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri Mar  4 12:02:08 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:02:08 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] CNC enclosure
Message-ID: <50682ABE-C033-4396-9786-38FF7B95E09E@openbuddha.com>

People were talking about building an enclosure for Guido the Killer CNC. I found this today: http://www.built-to-spec.com/blog/2010/12/25/quick-projects-building-a-cnc-mill-stand-and-enclosure/.

Al



From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar  4 14:04:05 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:04:05 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Introduction and offer of services
In-Reply-To: <2AE43C95-69FF-4FA3-99A9-D7552AF7EE0D@openbuddha.com>
References: <AANLkTinC8OULX2Mzj8URBiPQq26TLWROCStuSq66cSxy@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Al Jigen BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> Some projects I'm currently interested in pursuing:
>> - Making a better 3D printer.
>
> Can you elaborate? I'd like better 3D printers too!

Sure!  I want...
- Larger build area.  20cm cube minimum, but larger would be better.
Mostly this is a function of cost: I'd like to use nice rods and lead
screws, but longer is more expensive....
- Better speed.  The Ultimaker is kind of blazing the way on this one,
and we might take a similar approach.
- Better repeatability, through closed-loop control systems.  Right
now, if the MakerBot loses some steps in a motion, your print is
hosed.  If you don't home it correctly when starting, your print is
hosed.  If the extruder runs out of plastic or chews a hole in the
filament, your print is hosed.  This is all pretty dumb.

I'm pretty serious about this one -- if I could figure out a way to
quit my day job and do it, I would.

I have a pretty good understanding of the defects in the MakerBot
Cupcake, many (but not all) of which are fixed in the Thing-O-Matic.
Before I make my own 3D printer design, I intend to upgrade my Cupcake
as far as it can go -- meaning this:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5688

> I have a heated build platform to be assembled for Alice and I need to add the
> new mk6 plastruder when the conversion parts arrive next week (but I have to
> hack it to work with gen3 electronics).

Great.  I highly recommend the HBP.

I would like to print a stepper extruder that can work with commodity
motors -- the MK6 uses a custom motor that requires a fan, which seems
kind of ridiculous.  Not to mention expensive.

I'm excited about the new 1.75mm filament, simply because it has to be
squished less to extrude.  This means less nozzle pressure, which
means less hysteresis between the motor drive and the actual extrusion
(particularly with PLA, which is very compressible).  This, plus a
stepper extruder, seems like the path to quality.


>> - Rooting my Parrot ARDrone and making it into a general-purpose UAV.
>
> That would be sweet. We've spoken about building a fixed wing drone but I haven't
> gotten around to starting the project.

I've written an open-source library that can control the ARDrone from
the ground.  But it's an ARM Linux machine and I want to run my code
*on* it.  I have a root telnet shell, so now it's just a matter of
figuring out the hardware interfaces....

> You went to Chico?

Arizona State, but same concept. :-)

-Cliff L. Biffle


From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar  4 16:57:24 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:57:24 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Simplified MakerBot Cupcake wobble arrester
Message-ID: <AANLkTimkz4deOMQxpDrj5_N0qE7AwhwdzZxezi3aWtJb@mail.gmail.com>

I don't recall who was planning on printing up a wobble arrester, but
you might want to take a look at this:

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6827

This would be an easy evening's work.  I'm happy to help sometime.
I'll see about remixing the design to use tab/slot joins instead of
quite so much hot glue.

-Cliff


From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar  4 17:10:10 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:10:10 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Introduction and offer of services
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On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Michael Shiloh
<michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Tell us more about openScad.

Well, OpenSCAD lives here: http://www.openscad.org/

At its core, it's a way of mashing shapes together.  You can combine
them, intersect them, subtract one from another, etc.  You do this in
something resembling source code.  For example, if you have parts
called "bracket" and "m3bolt" and you want to put an M3-sized hole
through the bracket, you might write

difference() {
  bracket();
  m3bolt();
}

I'm a programmer by trade, so this appeals to me -- for a number of reasons:

1. It's just text.  You can edit it using the tool of your choice (or
OpenSCAD's built-in editor).  It works with version-control systems
and diff tools.  You can send it to someone else and they can read
what you did.

2. It can produce parameterized parts.  You can centralize the
definitions of dimensions or shapes -- say, the particular variety of
threaded rod you're using -- as variables that get used all over the
place.  If you change the threaded rod later, you tweak the variables.

3. It's entirely open source, and works on Mac, Linux, and (I assume) Windows.

However, for people who would prefer to do their CAD with a mouse, it
isn't the right tool.

> ...but the real
> killer app will be CAD, all the way to generating G-code. As this is
> new to me, I need to learn it before I can teach it.

I'd be happy to show you the ropes.  If there's general interest we
could do a semi-formal class-type thing.  My software stack looks like
this:

1. OpenSCAD for designing parts.
2. Rarely: Blender for doing detailed mesh editing.  (Getting less
frequent as I learn how to do more stuff in OpenSCAD.)
3. ReplicatorG/Skeinforge for laying out the parts on the printer's
bed and generating gcode.  (It's not as capable as it could be -- this
is the portion I want to replace.)

Everything here is open source and cross-platform.  ReplicatorG will
be somewhat familiar to students of Arduino, since it's based on the
Arduino's Java UI.

-Cliff L. Biffle


From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar  4 22:32:30 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 22:32:30 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZWN7i=_7=UdW82Z7FaLP72oReB-2xY4Vd_-Mm@mail.gmail.com>

Andreas and I have an idea for something to do at the Maker Faire
booth.  It's embryonic, but I mention it here in the hopes of roping
more people in to help. :-)

Text below copied from the readme here:
https://github.com/acemonstertoys/makerfaire-2011-photobooth

---
Imagine you're attending Maker Faire 2011. Attracted by the magnetism
of pure awesomeness, you make a beeline to the Ace Monster Toys booth.

There you discover a large box, claiming to be a Photo Booth...but the
screen out front shows what looks like a rotating model of a head. How
odd!

You step inside the booth and press a button. A screen lights up,
showing a 3D model of your head in profile. It tells you to center
your profile within a circular outline, superimposed on your head. A
few seconds later, something goes "bong!" and you step out.

A few feet to your life, a 3D printer hums to life. The friendly
operator suggests that you check out the rest of the booth while your
souvenir comes to life, but you hang out and watch.

Over the next few minutes, the friendly robots create a customized
coin. On the back is the AMT logo and some (hard to read)
commemorative text. But on the face...is, well, your face, in profile,
doing your best George Washington.

You leave holding a little piece of the future, and a promise that if
you stop by the space and show your coin, we will...something. At
least say hello! So of course you head to Oakland and become a member.
---

For context, I've already got some pretty mature Kinect software.  I
do most of the processing on the GPU, so doing a real-time shaded
triangulated preview is no problem.  It currently runs only on the
Mac, but that can be fixed if needed.  Here's the source:
https://bitbucket.org/cbiffle/kinect-viewer/overview

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Mar  4 22:49:12 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 22:49:12 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimZWN7i=_7=UdW82Z7FaLP72oReB-2xY4Vd_-Mm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimZWN7i=_7=UdW82Z7FaLP72oReB-2xY4Vd_-Mm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikzEd8JwgiDDqfqU3xcz05dDbBFJR4NYVn+5FhV@mail.gmail.com>

We've got 2 makerbots at the space, plus yours, plus Sean can probably be
convinced to lend his out for a day, so that gives us 4, which is a pretty
good count. It sounds like an awesome idea overall...I'm just concerned if
the makerbot can both produce something fast enough and with a recognizable
image in only a few layers at a somewhat small size.

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> Andreas and I have an idea for something to do at the Maker Faire
> booth.  It's embryonic, but I mention it here in the hopes of roping
> more people in to help. :-)
>
> Text below copied from the readme here:
> https://github.com/acemonstertoys/makerfaire-2011-photobooth
>
> ---
> Imagine you're attending Maker Faire 2011. Attracted by the magnetism
> of pure awesomeness, you make a beeline to the Ace Monster Toys booth.
>
> There you discover a large box, claiming to be a Photo Booth...but the
> screen out front shows what looks like a rotating model of a head. How
> odd!
>
> You step inside the booth and press a button. A screen lights up,
> showing a 3D model of your head in profile. It tells you to center
> your profile within a circular outline, superimposed on your head. A
> few seconds later, something goes "bong!" and you step out.
>
> A few feet to your life, a 3D printer hums to life. The friendly
> operator suggests that you check out the rest of the booth while your
> souvenir comes to life, but you hang out and watch.
>
> Over the next few minutes, the friendly robots create a customized
> coin. On the back is the AMT logo and some (hard to read)
> commemorative text. But on the face...is, well, your face, in profile,
> doing your best George Washington.
>
> You leave holding a little piece of the future, and a promise that if
> you stop by the space and show your coin, we will...something. At
> least say hello! So of course you head to Oakland and become a member.
> ---
>
> For context, I've already got some pretty mature Kinect software.  I
> do most of the processing on the GPU, so doing a real-time shaded
> triangulated preview is no problem.  It currently runs only on the
> Mac, but that can be fixed if needed.  Here's the source:
> https://bitbucket.org/cbiffle/kinect-viewer/overview
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar  4 22:50:59 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 22:50:59 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
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On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just concerned if
> the makerbot can both produce something fast enough and with a recognizable
> image in only a few layers at a somewhat small size.

That's the key.  If I get time, I'll do some test models on Sunday and
see if I can find a compromise between fast and nice.  I'm also
inspecting some coins to learn how they preserve details in thin
profiles.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Mar  5 09:29:58 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:29:58 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
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Dunno if you saw this or not, but was just posted:

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6839

<http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6839>
http://eclecti.cc/hardware/facecube-copy-real-life-with-a-kinect-and-3d-printer

<http://eclecti.cc/hardware/facecube-copy-real-life-with-a-kinect-and-3d-printer>Scarily
close to what you wanted to do

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm just concerned if
> > the makerbot can both produce something fast enough and with a
> recognizable
> > image in only a few layers at a somewhat small size.
>
> That's the key.  If I get time, I'll do some test models on Sunday and
> see if I can find a compromise between fast and nice.  I'm also
> inspecting some coins to learn how they preserve details in thin
> profiles.
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>
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From asf at boinkor.net  Sat Mar  5 09:39:57 2011
From: asf at boinkor.net (Andreas Fuchs)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:39:57 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
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On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 09:29, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dunno if you saw this or not, but was just posted:
> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6839
> http://eclecti.cc/hardware/facecube-copy-real-life-with-a-kinect-and-3d-printer
> Scarily close to what you wanted to do

I saw those, too. Our project is inspired by
http://www.interactivefabrication.com/projects/fabricate-yourself/ -
and I believe the one you linked to is inspired by it also.

Anyway, fabbing medallions/coins with people's own profile on it in
real time will (I hope) be original enough that we can still do it
without seeming like total rip-offs (-:

-- 
Andreas Fuchs, (http://|im:asf@|mailto:asf@)boinkor.net, antifuchs


From biff at cliffle.com  Sat Mar  5 09:45:00 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:45:00 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwMbzAMeJ90aUB8SR2gtvRd+iKgOayVDbQfSo1@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Andreas Fuchs <asf at boinkor.net> wrote:
> Anyway, fabbing medallions/coins with people's own profile on it in
> real time will (I hope) be original enough that we can still do it
> without seeming like total rip-offs (-:

Hm, I'm a little disappointed that there's precedent.  We should
brainstorm for variations.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Mar  5 10:00:00 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:00:00 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
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On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Cliff Biffle wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Andreas Fuchs <asf at boinkor.net> wrote:
>> Anyway, fabbing medallions/coins with people's own profile on it in
>> real time will (I hope) be original enough that we can still do it
>> without seeming like total rip-offs (-:
> 
> Hm, I'm a little disappointed that there's precedent.  We should
> brainstorm for variations.

I liked the idea of using the CNC to carve faces into wooden coins...

Al



From asf at boinkor.net  Sat Mar  5 11:08:24 2011
From: asf at boinkor.net (Andreas Fuchs)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:08:24 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
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On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:00, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>> Anyway, fabbing medallions/coins with people's own profile on it in
>>> real time will (I hope) be original enough that we can still do it
>>> without seeming like total rip-offs (-:
>>
>> Hm, I'm a little disappointed that there's precedent. ?We should
>> brainstorm for variations.
>
> I liked the idea of using the CNC to carve faces into wooden coins...

That would probably be faster as well if we make the coin shapes beforehand...

At least, as long as we don't run out of pre-fabbed coin bases at the booth (-:

I guess offering both options could be fun: see both the additive and
subtractive processes at work.
-- 
Andreas Fuchs, (http://|im:asf@|mailto:asf@)boinkor.net, antifuchs


From biff at cliffle.com  Sat Mar  5 16:12:49 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:12:49 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
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On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Al Jigen Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> I liked the idea of using the CNC to carve faces into wooden coins...

Yeah, I could go for this.  That would leave the MakerBots free to
play the soundtrack. :-)

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From romanian at gmail.com  Sat Mar  5 16:46:00 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:46:00 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for Maker Faire 2011
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Im volunteering to try cnc parts from models.
On Mar 5, 2011 4:12 PM, "Cliff Biffle" <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Al Jigen Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> I liked the idea of using the CNC to carve faces into wooden coins...
>
> Yeah, I could go for this. That would leave the MakerBots free to
> play the soundtrack. :-)
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Sat Mar  5 22:09:11 2011
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:09:11 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] FOSS tools for CAD (was: introduction and offer of services)
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i've installed openscad. i like it, but it's wrong for my students. i 
need a simple graphics cad for them. suggestions?

On 03/04/2011 05:10 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Michael Shiloh
> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Tell us more about openScad.
>
> Well, OpenSCAD lives here: http://www.openscad.org/
>
> At its core, it's a way of mashing shapes together.  You can combine
> them, intersect them, subtract one from another, etc.  You do this in
> something resembling source code.  For example, if you have parts
> called "bracket" and "m3bolt" and you want to put an M3-sized hole
> through the bracket, you might write
>
> difference() {
>    bracket();
>    m3bolt();
> }
>
> I'm a programmer by trade, so this appeals to me -- for a number of reasons:
>
> 1. It's just text.  You can edit it using the tool of your choice (or
> OpenSCAD's built-in editor).  It works with version-control systems
> and diff tools.  You can send it to someone else and they can read
> what you did.
>
> 2. It can produce parameterized parts.  You can centralize the
> definitions of dimensions or shapes -- say, the particular variety of
> threaded rod you're using -- as variables that get used all over the
> place.  If you change the threaded rod later, you tweak the variables.
>
> 3. It's entirely open source, and works on Mac, Linux, and (I assume) Windows.
>
> However, for people who would prefer to do their CAD with a mouse, it
> isn't the right tool.
>
>> ...but the real
>> killer app will be CAD, all the way to generating G-code. As this is
>> new to me, I need to learn it before I can teach it.
>
> I'd be happy to show you the ropes.  If there's general interest we
> could do a semi-formal class-type thing.  My software stack looks like
> this:
>
> 1. OpenSCAD for designing parts.
> 2. Rarely: Blender for doing detailed mesh editing.  (Getting less
> frequent as I learn how to do more stuff in OpenSCAD.)
> 3. ReplicatorG/Skeinforge for laying out the parts on the printer's
> bed and generating gcode.  (It's not as capable as it could be -- this
> is the portion I want to replace.)
>
> Everything here is open source and cross-platform.  ReplicatorG will
> be somewhat familiar to students of Arduino, since it's based on the
> Arduino's Java UI.
>
> -Cliff L. Biffle
>

-- 
Michael Shiloh
KA6RCQ
www.teachmetomake.com
teachmetomake.wordpress.com
Keep informed at http://groups.google.com/group/teach-me-to-make


From biff at cliffle.com  Sat Mar  5 22:31:32 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:31:32 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] FOSS tools for CAD (was: introduction and offer of
	services)
In-Reply-To: <4D732507.4060005@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Michael Shiloh
<michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
> i've installed openscad. i like it, but it's wrong for my students. i need a
> simple graphics cad for them. suggestions?

I've seen people do really impressive parts using Sketchup, but I've
always felt like it was an odd tool for the job.

Other than that, no, not in the free space.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Mar  5 22:33:48 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:33:48 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] FOSS tools for CAD (was: introduction and offer of
	services)
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A few people were talking about HeeksCAD...I haven't given it a try yet.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Michael Shiloh
> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > i've installed openscad. i like it, but it's wrong for my students. i
> need a
> > simple graphics cad for them. suggestions?
>
> I've seen people do really impressive parts using Sketchup, but I've
> always felt like it was an odd tool for the job.
>
> Other than that, no, not in the free space.
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From romanian at gmail.com  Sun Mar  6 10:23:38 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:23:38 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] FOSS tools for CAD (was: introduction and offer of
	services)
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Heekscad heekscnc works well
On Mar 5, 2011 10:09 PM, "Michael Shiloh" <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> i've installed openscad. i like it, but it's wrong for my students. i
> need a simple graphics cad for them. suggestions?
>
> On 03/04/2011 05:10 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Michael Shiloh
>> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tell us more about openScad.
>>
>> Well, OpenSCAD lives here: http://www.openscad.org/
>>
>> At its core, it's a way of mashing shapes together. You can combine
>> them, intersect them, subtract one from another, etc. You do this in
>> something resembling source code. For example, if you have parts
>> called "bracket" and "m3bolt" and you want to put an M3-sized hole
>> through the bracket, you might write
>>
>> difference() {
>> bracket();
>> m3bolt();
>> }
>>
>> I'm a programmer by trade, so this appeals to me -- for a number of
reasons:
>>
>> 1. It's just text. You can edit it using the tool of your choice (or
>> OpenSCAD's built-in editor). It works with version-control systems
>> and diff tools. You can send it to someone else and they can read
>> what you did.
>>
>> 2. It can produce parameterized parts. You can centralize the
>> definitions of dimensions or shapes -- say, the particular variety of
>> threaded rod you're using -- as variables that get used all over the
>> place. If you change the threaded rod later, you tweak the variables.
>>
>> 3. It's entirely open source, and works on Mac, Linux, and (I assume)
Windows.
>>
>> However, for people who would prefer to do their CAD with a mouse, it
>> isn't the right tool.
>>
>>> ...but the real
>>> killer app will be CAD, all the way to generating G-code. As this is
>>> new to me, I need to learn it before I can teach it.
>>
>> I'd be happy to show you the ropes. If there's general interest we
>> could do a semi-formal class-type thing. My software stack looks like
>> this:
>>
>> 1. OpenSCAD for designing parts.
>> 2. Rarely: Blender for doing detailed mesh editing. (Getting less
>> frequent as I learn how to do more stuff in OpenSCAD.)
>> 3. ReplicatorG/Skeinforge for laying out the parts on the printer's
>> bed and generating gcode. (It's not as capable as it could be -- this
>> is the portion I want to replace.)
>>
>> Everything here is open source and cross-platform. ReplicatorG will
>> be somewhat familiar to students of Arduino, since it's based on the
>> Arduino's Java UI.
>>
>> -Cliff L. Biffle
>>
>
> --
> Michael Shiloh
> KA6RCQ
> www.teachmetomake.com
> teachmetomake.wordpress.com
> Keep informed at http://groups.google.com/group/teach-me-to-make
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Mar  6 11:52:30 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:52:30 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Thursday, 3/17, is the Quarterly Member Meeting
Message-ID: <4465A1CF-2108-44D2-A716-8EEB6DE71AAB@openbuddha.com>

Everyone please come to the meeting on Thursday, 3/17. This is our quarterly membership meeting.

At this meeting, we vote in new members (always). Additionally, it is the meeting where any business that needs a vote of the general membership can be done.

We'll be meeting at the normal time of 7:30 PM.

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Mar  6 13:34:20 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:34:20 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clonedel Molds
Message-ID: <DC36B600-2252-4A59-8808-0A4721B0422C@openbuddha.com>

Is anyone interested in purchasing or making Clonedel molds for the Prusa Mendel?

You can buy ready-made molds from Metrix: Createspace for $250 which let you make a full set of Prusa plastic bits (or whatever material you want) in about 30 minutes. http://metrixcreatespace.com/clonefactory

You can also get the source for the molds on Github (https://github.com/open3dp/PrusaMendel/tree/master/stl-molds) or Thingiverse (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6788).

Maybe one of us has access to fine enough materials to make our own mold set?

Al



From biff at cliffle.com  Sun Mar  6 14:32:32 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:32:32 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clonedel Molds
In-Reply-To: <DC36B600-2252-4A59-8808-0A4721B0422C@openbuddha.com>
References: <DC36B600-2252-4A59-8808-0A4721B0422C@openbuddha.com>
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Maybe one of us has access to fine enough materials to make our own mold set?

I've never molded anything, but I've often thought it might be nice to
3D-print a mold and get easily reproduceable parts... what would it
take, materials-wise?

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Mar  6 14:38:03 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:38:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clonedel Molds
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I don't think our makerbots do fine enough detail. The ones that the UW did were using a ceramic powder 3d printer.

Al



On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> Maybe one of us has access to fine enough materials to make our own mold set?
> 
> I've never molded anything, but I've often thought it might be nice to
> 3D-print a mold and get easily reproduceable parts... what would it
> take, materials-wise?
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/


From romanian at gmail.com  Sun Mar  6 14:43:33 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:43:33 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clonedel Molds
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Depending on size you may be able to mill some moulds on Guido.

Ps. You want to make moulds not molds :)
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From biff at cliffle.com  Sun Mar  6 14:51:09 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:51:09 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clonedel Molds
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> I don't think our makerbots do fine enough detail.

Are we still talking about casting Prusa parts?  MakerBots can
certainly print Prusas -- are their mo(u)lds (thanks Stefan)
significantly more difficult?

I bit into this topic quickly because RepRap printed parts are in
really short supply right now.  The bay-area-reprap list lights up
periodically with someone complaining about prices.  If we could
produce them repeatably it would make a lot of locals happy.

However, I don't know the first thing about casting things -- I'd be
scraping Instructables and guessing.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Mar  6 14:56:36 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:56:36 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clonedel Molds
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinv6FzbOvqxfZ4=PDkEi1NW6P_caEKEhsvfaxj=@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikuY0zBLf+OjUWKNNo7rsAN2imB0Vntyuc0PP=4@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinv6FzbOvqxfZ4=PDkEi1NW6P_caEKEhsvfaxj=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ECCBD6BA-2909-4EC2-9E1C-882A5B9C2CAB@openbuddha.com>


On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:

> Ps. You want to make moulds not molds :)
> 

Actually, here in America, "mold" is the proper spelling...

Al


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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Mar  6 14:57:48 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:57:48 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clonedel Molds
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxg=DYc7iR3rhs3Ga3gkiV69HCukFF9rxgVOK6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DC36B600-2252-4A59-8808-0A4721B0422C@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTimYsJcsNvK3GBrG0JODJ05CY7YAmpaYN2mvEhCj@mail.gmail.com>
	<C7E57E83-DDF2-48AF-9187-2A13C83E0D62@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTikxg=DYc7iR3rhs3Ga3gkiV69HCukFF9rxgVOK6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B949AC5-E33A-4FC1-85AE-A7BEC387170A@openbuddha.com>


On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:

> Are we still talking about casting Prusa parts?  MakerBots can
> certainly print Prusas -- are their mo(u)lds (thanks Stefan)
> significantly more difficult?

 If you want, for example, the cast parts to slide out of the molds, yes.

> However, I don't know the first thing about casting things -- I'd be
> scraping Instructables and guessing.

 Take liquid, pour into molds, wait.

 The question is whether our ability to make molds is less trouble to figure out than just getting a set and then casting immediately.

Al



From biff at cliffle.com  Sun Mar  6 15:03:03 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:03:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clonedel Molds
In-Reply-To: <0B949AC5-E33A-4FC1-85AE-A7BEC387170A@openbuddha.com>
References: <DC36B600-2252-4A59-8808-0A4721B0422C@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTimYsJcsNvK3GBrG0JODJ05CY7YAmpaYN2mvEhCj@mail.gmail.com>
	<C7E57E83-DDF2-48AF-9187-2A13C83E0D62@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTikxg=DYc7iR3rhs3Ga3gkiV69HCukFF9rxgVOK6@mail.gmail.com>
	<0B949AC5-E33A-4FC1-85AE-A7BEC387170A@openbuddha.com>
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> ?The question is whether our ability to make molds is less trouble to figure out
> than just getting a set and then casting immediately.

True, I think I just hijacked your thread.  Sorry about that.  If it
interests you, I suspect you could recoup the cost of a Clonedel
mo(u)ld by selling parts locally.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From myles at tenhand.com  Sun Mar  6 20:06:58 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:06:58 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Safety goggles for the lab
Message-ID: <A52806AE-24DE-4F89-91FF-829B8201823E@tenhand.com>


I just won an ebay auction for a half dozen safety goggles. I lost the bid for a box of clamps. Hopefully that was one of you. 



From biff at cliffle.com  Mon Mar  7 11:08:26 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:08:26 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] MakerBot User Group Challenge
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=mnfYAy_uBtF6twyHYAROu7vE1=5gnnFVikf=N@mail.gmail.com>

Just discovered that the first MBUG Challenge is still ongoing!  I
thought it had ended.

------
Hey MakerBot Operators!!!  Announcing MakerBot User Group Challenge #1!
Here?s the details:
Form a group if you haven?t already.  Get them together.
Meet.  Put at least two MakerBots side by side.
Take a photo of them together.  Humans are also allowed in this photo!
Upload the photo to the internet on flickr or facebook or your own site.
Email us the link to your picture to mug at makerbot.com along with your
group?s name, mailing list url, and a legit mailing address so we can
get you your care package.
One entry per group submitted no later than March 15, 2011 at 11:59pm EST.
All participating groups who meet this challenge will win a MakerBot
Industries Care Package and there will be LEDs.
------

Miloh at Noisebridge and I were lamenting that the only meetup was
inconveniently scheduled in San Mateo.  Anyone want to get together to
represent?

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From drorex at gmail.com  Mon Mar  7 11:14:58 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:14:58 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] MakerBot User Group Challenge
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=mnfYAy_uBtF6twyHYAROu7vE1=5gnnFVikf=N@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=mnfYAy_uBtF6twyHYAROu7vE1=5gnnFVikf=N@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=1vwro9LwPiE_aKQfosV6T3O3dVk0VCn2k86EF@mail.gmail.com>

That's pretty easy...there are two makerbots sitting side by side in our
space already. We can do this on thursday...perhaps members with their
personal makerbots can bring them in so it looks even more awesome

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> Just discovered that the first MBUG Challenge is still ongoing!  I
> thought it had ended.
>
> ------
> Hey MakerBot Operators!!!  Announcing MakerBot User Group Challenge #1!
> Here?s the details:
> Form a group if you haven?t already.  Get them together.
> Meet.  Put at least two MakerBots side by side.
> Take a photo of them together.  Humans are also allowed in this photo!
> Upload the photo to the internet on flickr or facebook or your own site.
> Email us the link to your picture to mug at makerbot.com along with your
> group?s name, mailing list url, and a legit mailing address so we can
> get you your care package.
> One entry per group submitted no later than March 15, 2011 at 11:59pm EST.
> All participating groups who meet this challenge will win a MakerBot
> Industries Care Package and there will be LEDs.
> ------
>
> Miloh at Noisebridge and I were lamenting that the only meetup was
> inconveniently scheduled in San Mateo.  Anyone want to get together to
> represent?
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From biff at cliffle.com  Mon Mar  7 11:15:56 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:15:56 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] MakerBot User Group Challenge
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=1vwro9LwPiE_aKQfosV6T3O3dVk0VCn2k86EF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=mnfYAy_uBtF6twyHYAROu7vE1=5gnnFVikf=N@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=1vwro9LwPiE_aKQfosV6T3O3dVk0VCn2k86EF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMb438TMc-1OBRcZi7eaXBpxuUeV4KdWxOAmPk@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:14 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> That's pretty easy...there are two makerbots sitting side by side in our
> space already. We can do this on thursday...perhaps members with their
> personal makerbots can bring them in so it looks even more awesome

I believe our goodies will be proportional to the number of MakerBots
present.  So I'll bring Eris along.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Mon Mar  7 11:46:03 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:46:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] MakerBot User Group Challenge
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMb438TMc-1OBRcZi7eaXBpxuUeV4KdWxOAmPk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=mnfYAy_uBtF6twyHYAROu7vE1=5gnnFVikf=N@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=1vwro9LwPiE_aKQfosV6T3O3dVk0VCn2k86EF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimMb438TMc-1OBRcZi7eaXBpxuUeV4KdWxOAmPk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPx26j1xpDyfjpVcsP3Ut=ZrU6ZHFksacvDUnY@mail.gmail.com>

Sweet!  I will bring mine on Thursday as well


On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:14 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's pretty easy...there are two makerbots sitting side by side in our
> > space already. We can do this on thursday...perhaps members with their
> > personal makerbots can bring them in so it looks even more awesome
>
> I believe our goodies will be proportional to the number of MakerBots
> present.  So I'll bring Eris along.
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Mar  7 15:54:03 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:54:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Someone delete the old AMT community page on Facebook
Message-ID: <6419021D-19BD-473A-90B9-D7406BAF4A73@openbuddha.com>

We have this old community page on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ace-Monster-Toys/120313471340060?v=wall

I'm not sure who the admin is but it needs to be deleted. 

We have a shiny new page that picks up our blog feed at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ace-Monster-Toys/131833036885006?ref=ts.

We need another 8 people to "like" it and we can get a reserved username on Facebook for our use with it. Tell your friends!

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar  8 19:24:49 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:24:49 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: MakerFaire 2011
References: <062D10EA-C802-4D52-939A-FB440FDD3A3F@hackerdojo.com>
Message-ID: <6F60198D-C08B-4ADC-BCE1-C56E9D698524@openbuddha.com>


Shared from Geo over at Hacker Dojo.


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Geo Mealer
> Date: March 8, 2011 7:06:37 PM PST
> To: Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> Subject: Fwd: MakerFaire 2011
> 

> FYI 
> 
> -- 
> Geo Mealer
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Christopher Meyer <chris.meyer at hackerdojo.com>
>> Date: March 8, 2011 5:49:47 PM PST
>> To: Matt Joyce <matt.joyce at hackerdojo.com>
>> Cc: members <members at hackerdojo.com>
>> Subject: Re: MakerFaire 2011
>> 
> 
>> Also, it looks like the "hackerspace hack-off" challenge idea has just
>> been done by Mitch Altman and elment14:
>> 
>> http://www.tvbgone.com/downloads/hs_challenge/hs_challenge.htm
>> 
>> So if that's what you were thinking of by "cross space coordination"
>> then maybe we should give that a try. Deadline's this Friday for
>> applications, though....
>> 
>> -C
>> 
>> On 3/8/2011 1:35 PM, Matt Joyce wrote:
>>> Hey so there are three hackerspaces at least in the bay area going and
>>> probably several more.  Maybe we should do some cross space coordination.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> -Matt
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Christopher Meyer
>>> <chris.meyer at hackerdojo.com <mailto:chris.meyer at hackerdojo.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Yes! We're in the midst of putting together an application right now. I
>>>    just emailed a first draft last night to our planning group--head over
>>>    to the list at
>>>    http://groups.google.com/a/hackerdojo.com/group/maker-faire-2011/topics
>>>    to check it out (you'll need to log in with your Dojo account).
>>> 
>>>    We'll be showcasing member projects, and we intend to have a hackathon
>>>    in the near future to build a few things.
>>> 
>>>    -C
>>> 
>>>    On 3/7/2011 12:15 AM, Matt Joyce wrote:
>>>> Is hacker dojo putting together an entry and if so where is that
>>>> occurring.  I'd love to help out.
>>>> 
>>>> -Matt
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar  8 19:27:16 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:27:16 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Front door broken
Message-ID: <58D78AF3-D750-4DE4-B519-B7659C67EF0C@openbuddha.com>

The front door to the space is busted for non-members right now because no one knows the password to the skype account that it calls. If you know it, please contact me.

Al




From me at robbiet.us  Thu Mar 10 00:18:17 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:18:17 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Cheap, hackable Chumby
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikRDAorcSFt=2jRT9LKhyLTekVfyiHm2X+0zG4r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikRDAorcSFt=2jRT9LKhyLTekVfyiHm2X+0zG4r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <628277B844314E2A8790AB47AB737693@gmail.com>

Chumby, on sale @ Woot. Normally 159.95. Get it for 54.99 including shipping at Woot

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Sent with Sparrow
Forwarded message: 
> From: Andrew Cantino <cantino at gmail.com>
> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:10:25 AM
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Cheap, hackable Chumby
> 
> The Chumby One is available for $50 on woot right now.
> http://www.woot.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Thu Mar 10 21:16:35 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:16:35 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Makerbot User Group Photo - Ace Monster Toys
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=vmTVH8egH9QRW0yDvRASpQcdAwJvMU8JDDuxB@mail.gmail.com>

A Friendly Hello to the Bot Cave!

We are Ace Monster Toys (http://acemonstertoys.org) and we're a kick-ass
hacker space in Oakland, California.  We brought our bots together this
evening in hopes of getting a lovely care package from you folks :)

I posted a photo of our collection of bots on our blog:
http://acemonstertoys.org/content/embarassment-makerbots

as well as a full-size photo here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/seanosteen/5516220839/

Thanks for being a catalyst to all of the fun and lost weekends we've
enjoyed with your fine platform. Keep up the great work!

Please address the care package to my office address to ensure there's
someone to sign for it.

Tech Monkey Design
25 Crescent Drive
Suite A, Mbx 258
Pleasant Hill, CA 94523


Best Regards,
Sean O'Steen
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Mar 10 22:36:40 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:36:40 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Facebook page has username now
Message-ID: <52C74CAB-6287-40D7-8C3F-3165E0FE5E5E@openbuddha.com>

We finally crossed the 25 fan threshold and have a username for our AMT page on Facebook.

We are at http://www.facebook.com/acemonstertoys now.

Al



From myles at tenhand.com  Fri Mar 11 10:38:43 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:38:43 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Group buy anyone?
Message-ID: <9418763D-B293-49D2-8184-B060EAA9D9DD@tenhand.com>


As mentioned a few weeks ago, I need to buy more 15 amp Anderson Powerpoles.  You can see a description at http://www.powerwerx.com/anderson-powerpoles/powerpole-sets/15-amp-red-black-anderson-powerpole-sets.html
The price drops steadily with volume, and at a certain size there are ebay sellers than powerwerx.  
Everything DC I use ends up with these plugs. I've  even used them for antenna clips and breakaway connections.  The only bad thing about them is that they aren't small. If you're building tiny boxes they get in the way. 


I also need to buy more rechargable AAs. I've learned my lesson about buying chinese no-name cells, but  Tenergy cells are cheaper in bulk. 

Anyone interested? Stake a claim by sunday night. 

From rachel at xtreme.com  Fri Mar 11 12:09:27 2011
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:09:27 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 100 hidden dinosaur paintings
Message-ID: <4D7A8177.6010805@xtreme.com>

The latest Awesome Foundation grant was awarded to Adam Davis, who is
painting 100 tiny dinosaurs and hiding them around SF and the world for
random people to find!  Check out his clues at

http://100dinosaurs.blogspot.com/

And if there's one near you, go get it.  The paintings are being given
away to whoever finds them first.  I'm a couple days late getting this
announcement out and so far it looks like two clues have been posted and
two paintings found.  I can't decide if it's OK for me to try and get
one of these, being as how I'm on the Awesome Board and all, what do you
think?

He's been posting clues at noon so the next one will probably be up at
any minute.

Rachel


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri Mar 11 14:55:36 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:55:36 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clondel MoUlds
Message-ID: <9DB1EDD2-560D-4E9A-B3A8-419B6259F4DF@openbuddha.com>

I'm going to buy a set of Clonedel MoUlds. They are $250.

We spoke last night about whether four other people would want to pay $50 each to chip in so the five of us could make Prusa Mendel parts with these molds for ourselves (and then make more to sell for cheap or donation).

 I think Cliff is interested. Are there three other interested parties?

 Info is at:

http://open3dp.me.washington.edu/2011/02/prusa-mendel-and-the-clonedels/
http://open3dp.me.washington.edu/2011/02/clonedel-files-are-up/

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6788

http://metrixcreatespace.com/clonefactory


Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri Mar 11 15:50:48 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:50:48 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clondel MoUlds
In-Reply-To: <9DB1EDD2-560D-4E9A-B3A8-419B6259F4DF@openbuddha.com>
References: <9DB1EDD2-560D-4E9A-B3A8-419B6259F4DF@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <104F0D2C-78F5-4AC9-99E2-061F6AC116CD@openbuddha.com>

It has been suggested that we just spend $50 to get a set of the printed parts that come from a mould and then make our own moulds... :-)

On Mar 11, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:

> I'm going to buy a set of Clonedel MoUlds. They are $250.
> 
> We spoke last night about whether four other people would want to pay $50 each to chip in so the five of us could make Prusa Mendel parts with these molds for ourselves (and then make more to sell for cheap or donation).
> 
> I think Cliff is interested. Are there three other interested parties?
> 
> Info is at:
> 
> http://open3dp.me.washington.edu/2011/02/prusa-mendel-and-the-clonedels/
> http://open3dp.me.washington.edu/2011/02/clonedel-files-are-up/
> 
> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6788
> 
> http://metrixcreatespace.com/clonefactory
> 
> 
> Al
> 



From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar 11 17:25:34 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:25:34 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clondel MoUlds
In-Reply-To: <104F0D2C-78F5-4AC9-99E2-061F6AC116CD@openbuddha.com>
References: <9DB1EDD2-560D-4E9A-B3A8-419B6259F4DF@openbuddha.com>
	<104F0D2C-78F5-4AC9-99E2-061F6AC116CD@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim3Xftc1-6tpjmVH=fwr73qM8oNzsSo=BUWYZBk@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Al Jigen BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> It has been suggested that we just spend $50 to get a set of the printed parts that come from a mould and then make our own moulds... :-)

I lack the skillz, but I'd be up for learning!

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From heiko.panther at web.de  Fri Mar 11 18:05:19 2011
From: heiko.panther at web.de (Heiko Panther)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:05:19 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Clondel MoUlds
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim3Xftc1-6tpjmVH=fwr73qM8oNzsSo=BUWYZBk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9DB1EDD2-560D-4E9A-B3A8-419B6259F4DF@openbuddha.com>
	<104F0D2C-78F5-4AC9-99E2-061F6AC116CD@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTim3Xftc1-6tpjmVH=fwr73qM8oNzsSo=BUWYZBk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <36D5F3E5-506D-4A67-B313-EB64E24EAF82@web.de>

There is some moldmaking material on the shelf in the space - go wild!

Heiko

On Mar 11, 2011, at 17:25, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Al Jigen BIllings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> It has been suggested that we just spend $50 to get a set of the printed parts that come from a mould and then make our own moulds... :-)
> 
> I lack the skillz, but I'd be up for learning!
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From heiko.panther at web.de  Sat Mar 12 11:27:09 2011
From: heiko.panther at web.de (Heiko Panther)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:27:09 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Upcoming AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshops, 3/16 7pm
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimxVb+pku4uTYnMxqAQgqzW0mKpViRL0DT_SWZ8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimxVb+pku4uTYnMxqAQgqzW0mKpViRL0DT_SWZ8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D7BC90D.8030800@web.de>

I'll be there, do you have an USNOOBIE + cable for me?

Do you have an agenda past the first session? I would propose to lead a
battery diagnosis project (discharge battery and integrate current;
determine capacity under different discharge profiles). This would
involve software as well as some electrical design.

Heiko


From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Sat Mar 12 11:41:57 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:41:57 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Make:SF - Who's going to talk about AMT?
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=PULB26b5F9co1UQrR-Z9HU-Y-Rn5T3OBNSTcc@mail.gmail.com>

We need someone to come up with a short talk about Ace Monster Toys,
what we've worked on, what we're planning, etc for next month's
Make:SF

Any volunteers?

--
Heph


From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Mar 12 12:38:47 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:38:47 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Make:SF - Who's going to talk about AMT?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinsn79rLShc+QO0BZZzypovcU8-0mVuEORU5Oqn@mail.gmail.com>

What are the exact date, time, and locations again? I might be able to help
On Mar 12, 2011 11:42 AM, "Hephaestus" <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Sat Mar 12 12:43:38 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:43:38 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Make:SF - Who's going to talk about AMT?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinsn79rLShc+QO0BZZzypovcU8-0mVuEORU5Oqn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinsn79rLShc+QO0BZZzypovcU8-0mVuEORU5Oqn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikn80A1imJkY67snZbsTezihvzx4i1VgEfCQwUh@mail.gmail.com>

*paste*

Hi Heph,

Yes! Please do present at the April meetings. I'm about to post the
announcement, so if you could provide me with a paragraph describing
what you'll be talking about I'll send it out to our list.

It could be enough just to have a couple sentences about what Ace
Monster Toys is, and some description of the other bits. (Showing some
of the toys built in the shop with MakerBots (and/or other tools).

The meetings will be:
April 5th @ 7:00 PM at
Tech Liminal
268 14th St.
Oakland

And:
April 12th @ 6:30PM at
Tech Shop SoMa
926 Howard St
San Francisco

We'll have a video projector at each location if you'd like to show
photos of Ace Monster Toys, or projects too large to transport.

Let me know if you have any questions. I'd like to send the
announcement in the next day or two.

Thanks!
-Andrew

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:38 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> What are the exact date, time, and locations again? I might be able to help
>
> On Mar 12, 2011 11:42 AM, "Hephaestus" <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
>


From jackaperkins at gmail.com  Sat Mar 12 13:30:55 2011
From: jackaperkins at gmail.com (Jack Perkins)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:30:55 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Upcoming AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshops, 3/16 7pm
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimxVb+pku4uTYnMxqAQgqzW0mKpViRL0DT_SWZ8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimxVb+pku4uTYnMxqAQgqzW0mKpViRL0DT_SWZ8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Bgz+xz4k8CNitfZO2pJh8WLp_Og7hWp+_dgXP@mail.gmail.com>

I have an arduino and a laptop running ubuntu. I have some experience
talking to my duemilanove in the C-ish language that runs in the IDE, but
I'm really interested in learning the 'real' way to program for my
microcontroller. That is, manually compiling and pushing the binaries to the
device, along with setting timers and interupts. Is my hardware compatible
with what you're thinking of running in terms of curriculum?

-Jack

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> [image: USnooBie]I will be starting a biweekly class / workshop on using
> AVR & Arduino-like microcontrollers. The first one will be 7 - 9pm on Wens.
> 3/16. We will have USnooBie
> <http://frank.circleofcurrent.com/usnoobie/arduino.php>kits available for
> a suggested donation of $20, and the first class will focus on putting
> together the kits (allowing you to learn basic soldering skills if you don't
> already), and writing some simple programs to blink a LED etc to get
> started.
>
> Please send me an email if you plan on coming, so I can make sure we have
> enough tools for everyone. This class (like most) is open to the public, no
> need to be a member of AMT to check it out!
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Mar 12 14:33:56 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:33:56 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Upcoming AVR/Arduino microcontroller workshops, 3/16 7pm
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Bgz+xz4k8CNitfZO2pJh8WLp_Og7hWp+_dgXP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimxVb+pku4uTYnMxqAQgqzW0mKpViRL0DT_SWZ8@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=Bgz+xz4k8CNitfZO2pJh8WLp_Og7hWp+_dgXP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHesJOSeDkcVbhLjhnk5TMKOV=fM088_HhSW1E@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, your hardware has the same Atmel AVR at its heart. Our first couple
classes will all be based on the more simplified arduino IDE language,
though later if there's enough interest I can do a couple classes in
programming it The Right Way. In the meantime if you show up, I can try and
get you started with it, after the class portion. Or perhaps on Thursday,
before/after the weekly meeting.
On Mar 12, 2011 1:31 PM, "Jack Perkins" <jackaperkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have an arduino and a laptop running ubuntu. I have some experience
> talking to my duemilanove in the C-ish language that runs in the IDE, but
> I'm really interested in learning the 'real' way to program for my
> microcontroller. That is, manually compiling and pushing the binaries to
the
> device, along with setting timers and interupts. Is my hardware compatible
> with what you're thinking of running in terms of curriculum?
>
> -Jack
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:28 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [image: USnooBie]I will be starting a biweekly class / workshop on using
>> AVR & Arduino-like microcontrollers. The first one will be 7 - 9pm on
Wens.
>> 3/16. We will have USnooBie
>> <http://frank.circleofcurrent.com/usnoobie/arduino.php>kits available for
>> a suggested donation of $20, and the first class will focus on putting
>> together the kits (allowing you to learn basic soldering skills if you
don't
>> already), and writing some simple programs to blink a LED etc to get
>> started.
>>
>> Please send me an email if you plan on coming, so I can make sure we have
>> enough tools for everyone. This class (like most) is open to the public,
no
>> need to be a member of AMT to check it out!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Mar 12 18:12:38 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:12:38 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire Town Hall Meeting at TechShop SF, Tuesday,
	March 15th
Message-ID: <08091579-7204-4199-A120-C60A2B9274BA@openbuddha.com>

Of possible interest.

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/03/maker-faire-town-hall-meeting-at-techshop-sf-tuesday-march-15th.html




From drorex at gmail.com  Sun Mar 13 16:26:14 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:26:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] RFID reader broken?
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=ob3xVms1pPZy7YnErB+1909a+s0=GLU666WQy@mail.gmail.com>

Cliff is currently outside the space and can't get in, says the RFID is not
working. I can't ssh into the door computer anymore. I heard robbie / ben
were working on servers, maybe they accidentally unhooked the plug computer,
since I can't ssh into it.
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Mar 13 16:42:20 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:42:20 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] RFID reader broken?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=ob3xVms1pPZy7YnErB+1909a+s0=GLU666WQy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=ob3xVms1pPZy7YnErB+1909a+s0=GLU666WQy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B70062E4-6F8A-445C-AA0F-8F2AE829AEA8@openbuddha.com>

He called me but I was in an interview and couldn't call him back for a few. I offered to come over to open the door but Cliff decided he'd just come back later this week.

If someone needs me to let people in to fix things, let me know. I'm at home this afternoon.

Al

On Mar 13, 2011, at 4:26 PM, David Rorex wrote:

> Cliff is currently outside the space and can't get in, says the RFID is not working. I can't ssh into the door computer anymore. I heard robbie / ben were working on servers, maybe they accidentally unhooked the plug computer, since I can't ssh into it. _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sun Mar 13 17:55:44 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:55:44 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] RFID reader broken?
In-Reply-To: <B70062E4-6F8A-445C-AA0F-8F2AE829AEA8@openbuddha.com>
References: <AANLkTi=ob3xVms1pPZy7YnErB+1909a+s0=GLU666WQy@mail.gmail.com>
	<B70062E4-6F8A-445C-AA0F-8F2AE829AEA8@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Tk2DHbMZiupQK7ZTEbcgo96bgB5MozAbaHrFk@mail.gmail.com>

I was able to access the thing remotely, and restart the door server. It
SHOULD be working now, but nobody's actually there to test.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> He called me but I was in an interview and couldn't call him back for a
> few. I offered to come over to open the door but Cliff decided he'd just
> come back later this week.
>
> If someone needs me to let people in to fix things, let me know. I'm at
> home this afternoon.
>
> Al
>
> On Mar 13, 2011, at 4:26 PM, David Rorex wrote:
>
> > Cliff is currently outside the space and can't get in, says the RFID is
> not working. I can't ssh into the door computer anymore. I heard robbie /
> ben were working on servers, maybe they accidentally unhooked the plug
> computer, since I can't ssh into it.
> _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
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From louise.s.fox at gmail.com  Sun Mar 13 19:09:20 2011
From: louise.s.fox at gmail.com (Louise Fox)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:09:20 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] RFID reader broken?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Tk2DHbMZiupQK7ZTEbcgo96bgB5MozAbaHrFk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=ob3xVms1pPZy7YnErB+1909a+s0=GLU666WQy@mail.gmail.com>
	<B70062E4-6F8A-445C-AA0F-8F2AE829AEA8@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTi=Tk2DHbMZiupQK7ZTEbcgo96bgB5MozAbaHrFk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimGUkdNLZpYEEiwN=w+OYUXzS3HW3TOJ0FW4Q1B@mail.gmail.com>

I got in. It is working
On Mar 13, 2011 5:56 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> I was able to access the thing remotely, and restart the door server. It
> SHOULD be working now, but nobody's actually there to test.
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com
>wrote:
>
>> He called me but I was in an interview and couldn't call him back for a
>> few. I offered to come over to open the door but Cliff decided he'd just
>> come back later this week.
>>
>> If someone needs me to let people in to fix things, let me know. I'm at
>> home this afternoon.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2011, at 4:26 PM, David Rorex wrote:
>>
>> > Cliff is currently outside the space and can't get in, says the RFID is
>> not working. I can't ssh into the door computer anymore. I heard robbie /
>> ben were working on servers, maybe they accidentally unhooked the plug
>> computer, since I can't ssh into it.
>> _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
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From biff at cliffle.com  Sun Mar 13 20:08:45 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:08:45 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] RFID reader broken?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGUkdNLZpYEEiwN=w+OYUXzS3HW3TOJ0FW4Q1B@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=ob3xVms1pPZy7YnErB+1909a+s0=GLU666WQy@mail.gmail.com>
	<B70062E4-6F8A-445C-AA0F-8F2AE829AEA8@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTi=Tk2DHbMZiupQK7ZTEbcgo96bgB5MozAbaHrFk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimGUkdNLZpYEEiwN=w+OYUXzS3HW3TOJ0FW4Q1B@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPYPSYsfDO-zH4JyrOW2a3BoDPGAL3ht1jQkbV@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Louise Fox <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
> I got in. It is working

Woot!

We initially suspected a power fault, so I offered to help set up
backup power for the plug computer.  Even though that doesn't seem to
have been the issue, I'm still happy to help with this.

Is anything written down about how the door system works?  If so, I
will read it instead of asking silly questions.  If not, here is my
current silly question:
- So, that Linux ARM machine.  What's it doing?  It sounds like
there's an AVR in the circuit -- could we run the whole shebang off
it?  (Context: the last home security system I built ran entirely off
an 8051.  Fewer moving parts good.)

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From myles at tenhand.com  Sun Mar 13 20:52:45 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:52:45 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] New Toy
Message-ID: <4F52F2BA-C771-474D-8DE5-CCB6BB5C6976@tenhand.com>


I just stopped by the space (RFID seems to be working) and dropped off a aluminum cutting blade for the new chop saw. I'll get it up in the wiki manana, but until then: RED blade is for aluminum & soft brass. Black blade is for wood and only wood. Neither blade is for steel, bolts, rebar &etc. 

In theory the chop saw isn't safe until it's bolted to a table.  Be warned. 

From myles at tenhand.com  Sun Mar 13 23:52:32 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:52:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Shopping list for solar class
Message-ID: <4CB5A7FD-8FA7-4106-86C8-118D68BEB82B@tenhand.com>


At Cliff's prompting, tonight I started thinking about what the buildout of the "Solar power for renters" workshop would look like.  I could use some help dropping the cost of the components. Many of my choices would make more sense after I've had a chance to teach the workshop & give the background. Others should be obvious to any geek. If you've got a line on a better price for the stuff below, please let me know.

I'm also trying to figure out how far apart the classes need to be. I'd love to have them close together: saturday & sunday. But if people need to order parts that won't work. 1 week isn't long enough to order stuff cheap from China and building solar power systems out of stuff you had fedexed in feels wrong.   

I'm recommending small systems you can move around & take indoors. Ones where you aren't modifying the building you live in. This could be one of two sizes:  A toolbox + mailing envelope sized panel that you can easily move around, and a 5 gallon bucket/ rolling toolbox with 4 square feet of panels.   The first would have about 60 watt hours per day, and the larger 500  every 3 days.   Both are useless for running refrigerators, but that's a *lot* of light, music & cellphones with a few minutes of shop tools. Much more on that in the class. 

Yes, this should be in a spreadsheet. 


myles


------------
ITEM 1 ) 12 volt Solar panel between10-40 watts & UL listed if at all possible. 
  The price per watt is much cheaper the larger you get, but dangers increase above about 20 watts. I strongly suggest not looking for a better price & going with ul-solar.com unless you've got some special in.  
20 watts: http://www.ul-solar.com/product_p/stp020p.htm  $75
Same vendor has $40 for 10 watt, $110 for 40 watt. 

ITEM 2) 12 volt AGM Battery.  Ideally deep cycle, but MUST be AGM.  
Small system  15-20 Amp hour small AGM gel cell type.  2 smaller ones in parallel make it easier to fit in a variety of boxes. I could really use help finding cheaper ones of these
http://www.amazon.com/UPG-UB1272-Battery-Capacity-Terminal/dp/B004EZQPII (2x7.2AH batteries. Fits in a toolbox well)  $14+shipping, guess $35 for 2? 

Larger system  U1  34AH or so 
http://www.solar-electric.com/unba35amseag.html  $54
http://www.ul-solar.com/product_p/stp010m.htm  $120 (much better warranty/ cycles. Why the price difference will be covered in class)  

ITEM 3)Charge controller with low voltage disconnect
Don't bother looking for a cheaper one online. If you have a DIY circuit board that's cheaper or lots better, let me know. 
 Steca 8.8 would be best ($35ish?) 
http://www.amazon.com/Kintrex-SPC0601-Controller-Digital-Display/dp/B001HWQZN  $13.

ITEM 4) Small Inverter -  All small cheap ones suck, so we may as well find them really cheap
Small: Any of the roughly 100 watt jobs with USB ($25ish)
http://www.amazon.com/DBTech-Portable-Inverter-Converter-cellphones/dp/B002LTQFUM  $20
Larger: Any truckstop 3-500 watt job. 

ITEM 5) ATC Fuse block without common ground (need to fuse panels, battery, loads. That's at least 4 )
http://www.wiringproducts.com/contents/en-us/d136.html  $9 

ITEM 6) UL listed ATC fuses $3 (digikey or other online)
(2amp, 5 amp, 15 amp)

ITEM 7) LED based 12 volt DC lighting-  Find me the best one of these that can easily be made into a resiliant work light  OR doesn't look ugly inside
LED strip light from ebay/deal extreme $10. 

ITEM 8) female battery terminal connectors, powerpoles for battery,  wire &etc  $15

ITEM 9) Waterproof case.   $10
Cheap is good, lightweight with good handle is best. Most are expensive. I have the tools to make nice with ammo boxes if required. 

ITEM 10) DC-DC converter. aka USB car adapter. $3? 
David Reetz found them at a dollar store. deal extreme  has lots. Anyone know of things that are local? 

ITEM 11) Cigarette sockets with wire coming out the back - $5? 
These are *evil* but lots of people seem to think they need them. $5 seems too much, but I can't find anything cheaper.

Total $120 minimum, $200 recommended 
	






From me at robbiet.us  Mon Mar 14 09:07:23 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:07:23 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Idea for a class *srs bsns*
Message-ID: <92EA0A6E89D94A9A9B8E153CB21FEEA0@gmail.com>

Hey,

Just had a sudden realization for a class, thanks to Sean.

Minecraft. How to play Minecraft. It would start at the basics of punching your first tree, all the way up to mining obsidian with your diamond pickaxe. 

As the subject suggests: srs bsns.

Let me know how everyone feels about this.

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Sent with Sparrow
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From myles at tenhand.com  Mon Mar 14 12:24:40 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:24:40 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Dates / plan for solar class
In-Reply-To: <4CB5A7FD-8FA7-4106-86C8-118D68BEB82B@tenhand.com>
References: <4CB5A7FD-8FA7-4106-86C8-118D68BEB82B@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <DC396236-5C10-4E13-B023-6C7B8AE8231A@tenhand.com>


On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:52 PM, myles wrote:

> 
> I'm also trying to figure out how far apart the classes need to be. I'd love to have them close together: saturday & sunday. But if people need to order parts that won't work. 1 week isn't long enough to order stuff cheap from China and building solar power systems out of stuff you had fedexed in feels wrong.   

This morning inspiration struck: The workshop will be directly after the theory part.  The workshop will be building and testing the wiring & safety equipment. Each person can build a fully working system &  test it on my panels & batteries. Then folks can decide what else to buy on their own. This drops the cost that day down to a $25-50 donation, while getting the best benefit from bulk purchase of small stuff.  I'm willing to front those costs. 

Folks on the list get to help pick the day:  April 10, 23,24 or 30. Earth day is the 22nd, tax day is the 18th.  

I'll be showing how to make 3 sizes of system
1) solar powered bike light - similar to berkeley's own Down Low Glow

2) solar powered lunchbox - daily power for an Ikea LED light, charge AA batteries, cell phones &etc. 

3) Solar powered suitcase - 3 days of (low) power for an emergency or take your daily bedroom off the grid. This is the usual size for a scientific datalogger/telemetry site, so I plan to advertise on grad student lists. 






From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Mar 14 12:26:37 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:26:37 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Dates / plan for solar class
In-Reply-To: <DC396236-5C10-4E13-B023-6C7B8AE8231A@tenhand.com>
References: <4CB5A7FD-8FA7-4106-86C8-118D68BEB82B@tenhand.com>
	<DC396236-5C10-4E13-B023-6C7B8AE8231A@tenhand.com>
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On Mar 14, 2011, at 12:24 PM, myles wrote:

> Folks on the list get to help pick the day:  April 10, 23,24 or 30. Earth day is the 22nd, tax day is the 18th.  

Any of these work for me. I'd suggest the 10th just to do the first one sooner.

> I'll be showing how to make 3 sizes of system
> 1) solar powered bike light - similar to berkeley's own Down Low Glow
> 
> 2) solar powered lunchbox - daily power for an Ikea LED light, charge AA batteries, cell phones &etc. 
> 
> 3) Solar powered suitcase - 3 days of (low) power for an emergency or take your daily bedroom off the grid. This is the usual size for a scientific datalogger/telemetry site, so I plan to advertise on grad student lists. 

This sounds pretty fun to me.

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Mar 14 14:10:55 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:10:55 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Quarterly Member Meeting this Thursday at 7:30
Message-ID: <1FF8D625-76F3-40DE-9469-9FD055D07104@openbuddha.com>

We're having the quarterly member meeting this Thursday at 7:30 PM. This is where we vote in provisional members as full members. The general membership can also bring up any business that it has that requires members, such as board recalls (or, in three months, elections).

Al



From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Wed Mar 16 09:23:03 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:23:03 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] EggBot after Thursday Night's meeting
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=+jYfdwanUZ2511-15j_XGYQXdCb49EdbZXDs0@mail.gmail.com>

I just got my EggBot (http://egg-bot.com) up and running last night.  I will
be bringing it to the meeting on Thursday Night. If you want to play with it
after the meeting is over, bring an egg, golf ball, or something round and
smooth on which you wish to plot.

Thanks,
Sean
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From drorex at gmail.com  Wed Mar 16 09:47:32 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:47:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Microcontroller class tonight
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=ck4qWnbr4A7qsUDM9wwfcizz2KJifYtBrt2Ri@mail.gmail.com>

When: 7pm tonight

Where: Ace Monster Toys Global Headquarters

What: We are going to be soldering together USnooBie kits, an Arduino
knockoff thing. This is just an initial class, so we'll be assembling them,
then getting everyone set up to blink a LED and how to compile code. Future
classes will go over more advanced stuff.

What to bring:
* $20 to cover the cost of the parts.
* A soldering iron if you have one -- we'll have a bunch, but just want to
make sure we don't run out
* A laptop with the Arduino IDE loaded:
http://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/software
* And if you have windows, you may need the USBasp driver installed:
http://www.fischl.de/usbasp/
They don't have a signed driver on that page, so if you have win 7 64 bit,
you'll need to do something else. I'll figure it out before the class & have
it available for you then.
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From me at robbiet.us  Wed Mar 16 15:09:13 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:09:13 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] PDPC Registration
Message-ID: <D357DE7AAAA84B49877D7082294610CC@gmail.com>

Hey Little Monsters,

Our application has just been given to PDPC for Organization Registration. Don't know what PDPC is? If you use Freenode, you can thank PDPC aka Peer-Directed Projects Center. 

What we get from it:
Additional channel management capabilities. Network policy states that projects and organizations are entitled to own channels bearing their names. Your group contact can request changes in channel ownership in accordance with this policy and can directly request changes to access lists and configuration for any channels you own. 

Group hostname cloaks. Cloaks allow your project or organization to grant official recognition to project participants. Your group contact maintains this cloak list. 

Server maintenance. If you're sponsoring a freenode server, your group contact acts as technical liason. 

Problem solving. When there's a problem with one of your channels or with a server you sponsor, a complaint by a user or a question about policy, we'll pass it on to your group contact. 
I am set as the group contact. Soon, you will be able to request a hostmask to mask your IP address which will look like:
~yournick at nat/acemonstertoys/somerandomstring
Instead of an IP.

I will keep you posted. 
-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Secretary
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From drorex at gmail.com  Wed Mar 16 15:16:06 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:16:06 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Microcontroller class tonight
In-Reply-To: <00c401cbe427$3e8d5ba0$bba812e0$@com>
References: <AANLkTi=ck4qWnbr4A7qsUDM9wwfcizz2KJifYtBrt2Ri@mail.gmail.com>
	<00c401cbe427$3e8d5ba0$bba812e0$@com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimWssLVrAxMya3uD498EntWg=7dGg3-Tt0HQ6U5@mail.gmail.com>

If any of you already have an AVR/Arduino of some sort, feel free to bring
it and there will probably be time for me to help you with it.
On Mar 16, 2011 3:13 PM, <earl0007 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok should be there ? I have an arduino kit, should I bring that?
>
>
>
> Leon
>
>
>
> From: discuss-bounces at lists.acemonstertoys.org [mailto:
discuss-bounces at lists.acemonstertoys.org] On Behalf Of David Rorex
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:48 AM
> To: Ace Monster Toys
> Subject: [AMTD] Microcontroller class tonight
> Importance: High
>
>
>
> When: 7pm tonight
>
> Where: Ace Monster Toys Global Headquarters
>
> What: We are going to be soldering together USnooBie kits, an Arduino
knockoff thing. This is just an initial class, so we'll be assembling them,
then getting everyone set up to blink a LED and how to compile code. Future
classes will go over more advanced stuff.
>
> What to bring:
> * $20 to cover the cost of the parts.
> * A soldering iron if you have one -- we'll have a bunch, but just want to
make sure we don't run out
> * A laptop with the Arduino IDE loaded:
http://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/software
> * And if you have windows, you may need the USBasp driver installed:
http://www.fischl.de/usbasp/
> They don't have a signed driver on that page, so if you have win 7 64 bit,
you'll need to do something else. I'll figure it out before the class & have
it available for you then.
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Wed Mar 16 15:53:39 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:53:39 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Review us on Google Maps
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTC4ZJ5deNQyWUZE96t7VWKyH+GJv5T9nG46E2@mail.gmail.com>

I got us listed on Google Maps. Now we need people to go on and write
reviews of how awesome we are:

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?action=openratings&cid=2559433510087506566&sll=37.844566,-122.276952&sspn=0.017766,0.026928&ie=UTF8&ll=37.866655,-122.315598&spn=0,0&z=14

Feel free to upload an AMT-related photo as well if you have any handy. This
will help us get noticed by people in the area when they google for
'hackerspace' or similar type things.
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From me at robbiet.us  Wed Mar 16 16:14:49 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:14:49 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] PDPC Registration
In-Reply-To: <B42A3FAE-D989-40FD-B998-A8521A54532D@gmail.com>
References: <D357DE7AAAA84B49877D7082294610CC@gmail.com>
	<B42A3FAE-D989-40FD-B998-A8521A54532D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4681921BE93404785AAE2B4357D3B1A@gmail.com>

 Damn it! You weren't supposed to tell them. The whole reason I submitted the app was to say I did something productive today! :'(

We don't want to switch, simply because its not worth it for 30-50 people to sit on one server. I also wouldn't want to switch to another network because Noisebridge is on Freenode aswell.

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Sent with Sparrow
On Wednesday, March 16, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Mischa Spiegelmock wrote: 
> HAHAHAHAHA. My GRF has been outstanding for over a year. Good luck. The backlog is nearly two years and growing.
> Just my two cents, but feenode sucks in every way possible. We should run a AMT server or use ANYTHING other than freenode. Efnet, hardchats, magnet, anything
> 
> Mischa
> 
> On Mar 16, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
> > Hey Little Monsters,
> > 
> > Our application has just been given to PDPC for Organization Registration. Don't know what PDPC is? If you use Freenode, you can thank PDPC aka Peer-Directed Projects Center. 
> > 
> > What we get from it:
> > Additional channel management capabilities. Network policy states that projects and organizations are entitled to own channels bearing their names. Your group contact can request changes in channel ownership in accordance with this policy and can directly request changes to access lists and configuration for any channels you own. 
> > 
> > Group hostname cloaks. Cloaks allow your project or organization to grant official recognition to project participants. Your group contact maintains this cloak list. 
> > 
> > Server maintenance. If you're sponsoring a freenode server, your group contact acts as technical liason. 
> > 
> > Problem solving. When there's a problem with one of your channels or with a server you sponsor, a complaint by a user or a question about policy, we'll pass it on to your group contact. 
> > I am set as the group contact. Soon, you will be able to request a hostmask to mask your IP address which will look like:
> > ~yournick at nat/acemonstertoys/somerandomstring
> > Instead of an IP.
> > 
> > I will keep you posted. 
> > -- 
> > Robbie Trencheny
> > Secretary
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Mar 17 17:13:17 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:13:17 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] ByLaws
Message-ID: <7B29C55D-B7E8-4FFE-807B-DF36BA04248A@openbuddha.com>

Since many people are unfamiliar with our bylaws (and those of us that were grow forgetful), I wanted to send the read-only link to them again on Google Docs:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XGwZKktWOtOfjwoNsTb-H58kUBPCSnb7D_1u6S856oo/edit?hl=en&authkey=CNi1idEC

Al



From me at robbiet.us  Thu Mar 17 18:45:41 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:45:41 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Quick meeting note
Message-ID: <3CD6F1431FA84D4E9AF9DB62D9C5F0F5@gmail.com>

If you would like to become a new member tonight, at our quarterly membership meeting, but will be unable to attend, you are allowed to select a proxy stand in to take your place during the meeting. Please select someone that knows you, and they will vet you during the meeting. I will be available to vet people as long as I have met you. Please contact me via email, IRC or call 925 884 3728 as soon as possible.

Otherwise, I hope to see a lot of you at 7:30 (45 minutes from now).

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Sent with Sparrow
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From me at robbiet.us  Thu Mar 17 23:25:07 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:25:07 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Acceptance for Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <201103180346.p2I3kGKi016037@scallion.bp>
References: <201103180346.p2I3kGKi016037@scallion.bp>
Message-ID: <309E68EFABF347EAB537559293344CAE@gmail.com>

We have just been accepted to Maker Faire!!!

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Sent with Sparrow
Forwarded message: 
> From: Sherry Huss <sherry at oreilly.com>
> To: me at robbiet.us
> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:46:16 PM
> Subject: Acceptance for Maker Faire
> 
> Dear Maker, 
> 
> We are happy to inform you that your proposal for Maker Faire, Maker #5124 - Building Monster Toys, has been accepted. We're looking forward to having you participate in the 6th Annual Maker Faire Bay Area 2011! 
> 
> I'd like to explain the process leading up to Maker Faire: 
> 
> Save the dates May 21st and 22nd! You should also consider being available on Friday, May 20th for setup and a special late afternoon Maker Networking event. We hope you'll set up on Friday and then stick around to meet some of the other makers who are exhibiting. 
> 
> Prepare your exhibit: We will provide a standard setup, which includes a standard banquet table and two chairs. We ask that you bring all other items required for your exhibit. If you need something different, and you indicated so in your entry, we may contact you to discuss these details. We will also provide a small sign for your exhibit. We encourage you to think about ways to design your exhibit and to make it interactive and fun. If you have any questions about your exhibit or changes to it, please email us at makers at makerfaire.com. 
> 
> The Maker Manual http://cdn.makezine.com/make/makerfaire/bayarea/2011/mfba11_maker_manual.pdf will help you prepare for Maker Faire and answer many of your questions. An additional email confirming your exhibit details will be sent with a link to electronically accept your Participation Agreement. This agreement indicates that you've read the Maker Manual and that we've agreed on the specifics of your exhibit. 
> 
> Safety Plans: Help us produce a fun and safe environment for all. If your exhibit requires Fire Marshall approval (you know who you are), please submit the Safety Plan for your exhibit no later than April 11th, via email to Louise Glasgow at louiseg at oreilly.com. If you have questions regarding this, please contact Louise. 
> 
> Here's the preliminary Maker Faire schedule so you can plan ahead: 
> 
>  Friday, May 20th ? Setup 10 a.m. - 8 p.m.
> 
>  Friday, May 20th - Maker Networking Event 5 p.m. - 8 p.m. *
> 
>  Saturday, May 21st - Maker Faire ? SHOWTIME 10 a.m. - 8 p.m.
> 
>  Sunday, May 22nd - Maker Faire ? SHOWTIME 10 a.m. - 6 p.m.
> 
>  Sunday, May 22nd - Break Down 7 p.m. - 9 p.m. 
> 
> * Times for social activities on Friday afternoon are subject to change. We will notify you of the final details a few days prior to the event. 
> 
> Spread the news! We've created some Maker Faire graphics that you can use on your website and email signatures to let people know about your appearance. We appreciate any efforts on your part to promote Maker Faire to friends, family, and coworkers.
> 
> You will find these graphics at http://makerfaire.com/bayarea/2011/badges.csp
> 
> Our goal is to make Maker Faire a truly unique, educational, and extraordinary experience for everyone. 
> 
> Thanks, and I look forward to seeing you at Maker Faire! 
> 
> Sherry 
> 
> P.S. If you have friends who should be exhibiting cool projects at Maker Faire, tell them there's still time to apply ? until March 21st. Send them to http://makezine.com/makerfaire/bayarea/2011/callformakers/ and they can complete the entry form. 
> 
> 
> Sherry Huss (Sherry at oreilly.com)
> 
> Director
> 
> Maker Faire (www.makerfaire.com)
> MAKE (www.makezine.com)
> CRAFT (www.craftzine.com) 
> 
> O'Reilly Media, Inc.
> 1005 Gravenstein Hwy North
> Sebastopol, CA 95472
> 707-827-7074
> 415-902-2050 cell 
> 
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From biff at cliffle.com  Thu Mar 17 23:31:43 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:31:43 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] EggBot after Thursday Night's meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=+jYfdwanUZ2511-15j_XGYQXdCb49EdbZXDs0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=+jYfdwanUZ2511-15j_XGYQXdCb49EdbZXDs0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik7K=VHmTuTD1SKo4oc=B-zXpX4csr1C_tEqpLY@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Sean O'Steen <sean at techmonkeydesign.com> wrote:
> I just got my EggBot (http://egg-bot.com) up and running last night.? I will
> be bringing it to the meeting on Thursday Night.

Damn, I missed it!  I have a surplus of eggs.  Would it be wise to
boil them first?

Also, how large of an egg can it handle?  One of my chickens lays
double-size eggs that don't fit in a carton.  She's some kind of
delicious mutant.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From me at robbiet.us  Thu Mar 17 23:32:36 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:32:36 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] EggBot after Thursday Night's meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik7K=VHmTuTD1SKo4oc=B-zXpX4csr1C_tEqpLY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=+jYfdwanUZ2511-15j_XGYQXdCb49EdbZXDs0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik7K=VHmTuTD1SKo4oc=B-zXpX4csr1C_tEqpLY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B26BE134D8C540C0B2EAE0967E3C4CB8@gmail.com>

Sean didn't come so you didn't miss anything. :(

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Sent with Sparrow
On Thursday, March 17, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote: 
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Sean O'Steen <sean at techmonkeydesign.com> wrote:
> > I just got my EggBot (http://egg-bot.com) up and running last night.  I will
> > be bringing it to the meeting on Thursday Night.
> 
> Damn, I missed it! I have a surplus of eggs. Would it be wise to
> boil them first?
> 
> Also, how large of an egg can it handle? One of my chickens lays
> double-size eggs that don't fit in a carton. She's some kind of
> delicious mutant.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
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From biff at cliffle.com  Thu Mar 17 23:33:55 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:33:55 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Acceptance for Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <309E68EFABF347EAB537559293344CAE@gmail.com>
References: <201103180346.p2I3kGKi016037@scallion.bp>
	<309E68EFABF347EAB537559293344CAE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVDkaN0N0kcx69vkcfPfunZRjt-LayxJmKyM1D@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> We have just been accepted to Maker Faire!!!

Hell yes!  Let's figure out what the hell we're doing! :-)

If I can produce STLs, do we have good software for generating, say,
ball-end mill toolpaths?  My path-generation software is tailored to
MakerBot-style stuff.

Are we allowed to sell things?  I remember booths selling things in
the past.  (My wife is the MBA in the family, but I'm pretty sure a
501(c)(3) can *sell* things, right?)  We could put together some
little kits of some sort.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From biff at cliffle.com  Thu Mar 17 23:34:14 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:34:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] EggBot after Thursday Night's meeting
In-Reply-To: <B26BE134D8C540C0B2EAE0967E3C4CB8@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=+jYfdwanUZ2511-15j_XGYQXdCb49EdbZXDs0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik7K=VHmTuTD1SKo4oc=B-zXpX4csr1C_tEqpLY@mail.gmail.com>
	<B26BE134D8C540C0B2EAE0967E3C4CB8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhMxf1HLqMMRxHNbJfuJcwR5r8sMaf1hyUKbZ5@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> Sean didn't come so you didn't miss anything. :(

Yay!  Kind of!

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From drorex at gmail.com  Thu Mar 17 23:36:26 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:36:26 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Acceptance for Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVDkaN0N0kcx69vkcfPfunZRjt-LayxJmKyM1D@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201103180346.p2I3kGKi016037@scallion.bp>
	<309E68EFABF347EAB537559293344CAE@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVDkaN0N0kcx69vkcfPfunZRjt-LayxJmKyM1D@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=jJzg5EM1dj3_YPq-DZ-5ZH58o+HT-4cGbP7iD@mail.gmail.com>

Selling requires a $375 payment to maker faire, which I believe we did not
do, and probably don't want to.
I think we can still give away free items, and accept donations though.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> > We have just been accepted to Maker Faire!!!
>
> Hell yes!  Let's figure out what the hell we're doing! :-)
>
> If I can produce STLs, do we have good software for generating, say,
> ball-end mill toolpaths?  My path-generation software is tailored to
> MakerBot-style stuff.
>
> Are we allowed to sell things?  I remember booths selling things in
> the past.  (My wife is the MBA in the family, but I'm pretty sure a
> 501(c)(3) can *sell* things, right?)  We could put together some
> little kits of some sort.
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From me at robbiet.us  Thu Mar 17 23:36:46 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:36:46 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Acceptance for Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVDkaN0N0kcx69vkcfPfunZRjt-LayxJmKyM1D@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201103180346.p2I3kGKi016037@scallion.bp>
	<309E68EFABF347EAB537559293344CAE@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVDkaN0N0kcx69vkcfPfunZRjt-LayxJmKyM1D@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <253C9B65F473414585243A765EA7C3D3@gmail.com>

As part of my work with The MADE, I learned that you can accept donations in exchange for a "gift" as a 501(c)(3) entity. I would suggest if we do this, we should do it through Square.

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Sent with Sparrow
On Thursday, March 17, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote: 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> > We have just been accepted to Maker Faire!!!
> 
> Hell yes! Let's figure out what the hell we're doing! :-)
> 
> If I can produce STLs, do we have good software for generating, say,
> ball-end mill toolpaths? My path-generation software is tailored to
> MakerBot-style stuff.
> 
> Are we allowed to sell things? I remember booths selling things in
> the past. (My wife is the MBA in the family, but I'm pretty sure a
> 501(c)(3) can *sell* things, right?) We could put together some
> little kits of some sort.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> 
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From biff at cliffle.com  Thu Mar 17 23:37:58 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:37:58 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Acceptance for Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=jJzg5EM1dj3_YPq-DZ-5ZH58o+HT-4cGbP7iD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201103180346.p2I3kGKi016037@scallion.bp>
	<309E68EFABF347EAB537559293344CAE@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:36 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Selling requires a $375 payment to maker faire, which I believe we did not
> do, and probably don't want to.

Ouch, yes, I agree.  Let's not do that.  If we have souvenirs, I'm all
for "suggested donation" loopholes.

...they're cool with that, right?

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From me at robbiet.us  Thu Mar 17 23:39:09 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:39:09 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Acceptance for Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimAMCfhWZj842W_kRF+1YmrUvjHpsUeF6kJMQj1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201103180346.p2I3kGKi016037@scallion.bp>
	<309E68EFABF347EAB537559293344CAE@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVDkaN0N0kcx69vkcfPfunZRjt-LayxJmKyM1D@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <B8F66F80A77D47E89713B7A155B18E14@gmail.com>

We don't have to pay the fee. We are a non-profit. The MADE is getting away with it, we checked into it if I remember and they said it was cool. They just don't want commercial entities selling.

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
Sent with Sparrow
On Thursday, March 17, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote: 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:36 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Selling requires a $375 payment to maker faire, which I believe we did not
> > do, and probably don't want to.
> 
> Ouch, yes, I agree. Let's not do that. If we have souvenirs, I'm all
> for "suggested donation" loopholes.
> 
> ...they're cool with that, right?
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> 
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From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Mar 18 08:48:17 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:48:17 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice's MK6 extruder + gen 3 electronics
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone up for getting together to work on this maybe this weekend? I know
Cliff was talking about it before, I don't know if you've planned a specific
time yet or not.

Also maybe we can install the wobble arrestor at the same time -- Alice has
a lot more wobble than Bob.
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Fri Mar 18 09:11:50 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:11:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice's MK6 extruder + gen 3 electronics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=0p5_qqvgsX6-JYq58=MrmBtidjvkisSPZcb2d@mail.gmail.com>

yep. i'll be there on saturday morning around 11a to fab some stuff on
the makerbots, so it'd be cool if we got this set up before we started
(considering how much fail there was the last time i tried printing on
those.

--
Heph

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:48 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone up for getting together to work on this maybe this weekend? I know
> Cliff was talking about it before, I don't know if you've planned a specific
> time yet or not.
>
> Also maybe we can install the wobble arrestor at the same time -- Alice has
> a lot more wobble than Bob.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri Mar 18 09:13:47 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:13:47 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice's MK6 extruder + gen 3 electronics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92B28DD0-DE9D-48D7-9AA5-F4B9D629331A@openbuddha.com>

Cliff and I are meeting at 11 Saturday to work on it (maybe with Hephaestus?). We may also work on Alice's heated build platform (or I may).

Al



On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:48 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone up for getting together to work on this maybe this weekend? I know Cliff was talking about it before, I don't know if you've planned a specific time yet or not.
> 
> Also maybe we can install the wobble arrestor at the same time -- Alice has a lot more wobble than Bob.
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Mar 18 09:19:19 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:19:19 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice's MK6 extruder + gen 3 electronics
In-Reply-To: <92B28DD0-DE9D-48D7-9AA5-F4B9D629331A@openbuddha.com>
References: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
	<92B28DD0-DE9D-48D7-9AA5-F4B9D629331A@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=9BuUmjumVzYc=FqvdGpYqT21P3yM+LPuu7WbY@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not convinced on the value of the heated build platform myself...it
seems like the only thing it solves is large object warping, which you can
mostly solve by using a raft anyway. Plus it's more slippery than a greased
robotic pig, hard to get the plastic to stick to it.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Cliff and I are meeting at 11 Saturday to work on it (maybe with
> Hephaestus?). We may also work on Alice's heated build platform (or I may).
>
> Al
>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:48 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyone up for getting together to work on this maybe this weekend? I know
> Cliff was talking about it before, I don't know if you've planned a specific
> time yet or not.
> >
> > Also maybe we can install the wobble arrestor at the same time -- Alice
> has a lot more wobble than Bob.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From asf at boinkor.net  Fri Mar 18 09:54:16 2011
From: asf at boinkor.net (Andreas Fuchs)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:54:16 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice's MK6 extruder + gen 3 electronics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=9BuUmjumVzYc=FqvdGpYqT21P3yM+LPuu7WbY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
	<92B28DD0-DE9D-48D7-9AA5-F4B9D629331A@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTi=9BuUmjumVzYc=FqvdGpYqT21P3yM+LPuu7WbY@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:19, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not convinced on the value of the heated build platform myself...it
> seems like the only thing it solves is large object warping, which you can
> mostly solve by using a raft anyway. Plus it's more slippery than a greased
> robotic pig, hard to get the plastic to stick to it.

Don't blame the heated build platform - I've seen raftless objects
stick to others, just not to Bob's. I did some experiments on this
yesterday, and it does indeed look like sanding the Kapton was the
worst thing one could possibly do for getting good objects. )-:

Extruding the first layer at a lower speed helps /a little/, but even
then, the plastic peels off. This does not happen on Cliff's HBP
(which is shiny and has never been sanded), so I think we should do
something about ours. We can try polishing it up with a finer grit -
maybe that will restore stickiness. Heph, somebody mentioned you have
plastic polish in the space - we could try that.
If that doesn't help, I'll order that $6 kapton film & replace what we have.

-- 
Andreas Fuchs, (http://|im:asf@|mailto:asf@)boinkor.net, antifuchs


From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Mar 18 10:29:15 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:29:15 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Acceptance for Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <B8F66F80A77D47E89713B7A155B18E14@gmail.com>
References: <201103180346.p2I3kGKi016037@scallion.bp>
	<309E68EFABF347EAB537559293344CAE@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVDkaN0N0kcx69vkcfPfunZRjt-LayxJmKyM1D@mail.gmail.com>
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Sweet, let's try and do some stuff then. Maybe we should consider doing
t-shirts for sale?

Just as a sidenote, there's no problem with selling things as a non-profit,
the reason its usually done as a donation gift instead of a sale, is for the
benefit of the donor, so they can deduct it on their taxes (technically the
amount of donation in excess of the actual value of the item)


On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

>  We don't have to pay the fee. We are a non-profit. The MADE is getting
> away with it, we checked into it if I remember and they said it was cool.
> They just don't want commercial entities selling.
>
> --
> Robbie Trencheny
> Sent with Sparrow <http://www.sparrowmailapp.com>
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:36 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Selling requires a $375 payment to maker faire, which I believe we did not
> do, and probably don't want to.
>
>
> Ouch, yes, I agree. Let's not do that. If we have souvenirs, I'm all
> for "suggested donation" loopholes.
>
> ...they're cool with that, right?
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>
>
>
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From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar 18 18:55:20 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:55:20 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice's MK6 extruder + gen 3 electronics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimTRy8=hChwpLvnbKZk0Ynw7WS3F_UZHX8UAXR7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
	<92B28DD0-DE9D-48D7-9AA5-F4B9D629331A@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTi=9BuUmjumVzYc=FqvdGpYqT21P3yM+LPuu7WbY@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Andreas Fuchs <asf at boinkor.net> wrote:
> If that doesn't help, I'll order that $6 kapton film & replace what we have.

Or, grab a roll of tape and make your own "film". :-)

I agree, something is seriously wrong with the HBP in the space and we
can fix it.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From asf at boinkor.net  Fri Mar 18 19:02:36 2011
From: asf at boinkor.net (Andreas Fuchs)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:02:36 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice's MK6 extruder + gen 3 electronics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=HzDTzS3JXssX-y2WG91gCAot47m3Dob2BBk4z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 18:55, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
> Or, grab a roll of tape and make your own "film". :-)

The kapton tape? that roll is so useful for small repairs around hot
things, I didn't think we should waste it on what's effectively
flood-fill (-:

> I agree, something is seriously wrong with the HBP in the space and we
> can fix it.

One more idea: It might just be dirt/dust that's preventing the
plastic from sticking. I'll apply a moist towel to it the next
opportunity I get

-- 
Andreas Fuchs, (http://|im:asf@|mailto:asf@)boinkor.net, antifuchs


From biff at cliffle.com  Fri Mar 18 20:44:32 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:44:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice's MK6 extruder + gen 3 electronics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimgQg5xzaMaoMXt2A554gARwwrqJZopHodP++rY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=W-gesOpyo1=+18iN5tTz8071anWAJfMhswMA=@mail.gmail.com>
	<92B28DD0-DE9D-48D7-9AA5-F4B9D629331A@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTi=9BuUmjumVzYc=FqvdGpYqT21P3yM+LPuu7WbY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimTRy8=hChwpLvnbKZk0Ynw7WS3F_UZHX8UAXR7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=HzDTzS3JXssX-y2WG91gCAot47m3Dob2BBk4z@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimgQg5xzaMaoMXt2A554gARwwrqJZopHodP++rY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikKQqAjwg-uw+MOq1KcAHJsHryeBZHYptcZ7wRL@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Andreas Fuchs <asf at boinkor.net> wrote:
> One more idea: It might just be dirt/dust that's preventing the
> plastic from sticking. I'll apply a moist towel to it the next
> opportunity I get

I tried that a little.  Y'know what's cheaper than kapton, readily
available down the street, and a popular build platform material?
Blue painter's tape.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Mar 18 23:34:24 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:34:24 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Donation Receipt
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=jMWOxvAMzvg=X71DPOwhor9vk_0U9wAbgO3ZS@mail.gmail.com>

I threw this together, for if people want to donate money / goods to us.

http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Donation_Receipt

Note that currently, donations to us are NOT tax deductible. However, once
we get 501(c)(3) status, they retroactively* become tax deductible. So
should start giving out these receipts to people that donate stuff to us,
just to be nice.

(* = how long the retroactive period appears to be complex, it for sure will
go back to our date of incorporation, 9/23/2010, as long as we file our
501c3 paperwork within 15** months of that date. In some circumstances, the
retroactive period goes back to the beginning of our activities, but we may
need to come up with some documentation to prove that, so I wouldn't count
on it just to be safe)

(** = some references I've seen say 27, not 15 months)
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Mar 19 15:04:12 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:04:12 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice the makerbot
Message-ID: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>

Alice the makerbot has been upgraded to the mk6 plastruder but we still need to tweak firmware, settings, and permanently mount the board. Please do not print with Alice until Cliff and I give the all clear.

Al




From biff at cliffle.com  Sat Mar 19 16:40:39 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:40:39 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice the makerbot
In-Reply-To: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>
References: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3Mn+er7xxuPNCVsKUJBSxCoedGrnF7bo3Lz+z@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Al Jigen Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Alice the makerbot has been upgraded to the mk6 plastruder but we still need to
> tweak firmware, settings, and permanently mount the board. Please do not print
> with Alice until Cliff and I give the all clear.

As predicted, the "officially unsupported" MK6 required only an
adapter cable and some firmware changes to work with the Cupcake.
Once I'm happy with both I'll document it, in case anyone else wants a
MK6.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Mar 19 16:54:08 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:54:08 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice the makerbot
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik3Mn+er7xxuPNCVsKUJBSxCoedGrnF7bo3Lz+z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTik3Mn+er7xxuPNCVsKUJBSxCoedGrnF7bo3Lz+z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <717631E0-EE8F-4887-A99B-DA9E2D8F69AD@openbuddha.com>

For those that wish to compare, we did a test print of a reference 20mm cube on Alice after the upgrade. I took a photo comparing it with Bob's recent example of the same.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/albill/5541380078/

Alice's is the nice one on the left. The only problem I had was getting it off the raft, which caused a little distortion because of my methods.

Al

On Mar 19, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Al Jigen Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> Alice the makerbot has been upgraded to the mk6 plastruder but we still need to
>> tweak firmware, settings, and permanently mount the board. Please do not print
>> with Alice until Cliff and I give the all clear.
> 
> As predicted, the "officially unsupported" MK6 required only an
> adapter cable and some firmware changes to work with the Cupcake.
> Once I'm happy with both I'll document it, in case anyone else wants a
> MK6.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/



From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Mar 19 16:54:41 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:54:41 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice the makerbot
In-Reply-To: <717631E0-EE8F-4887-A99B-DA9E2D8F69AD@openbuddha.com>
References: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTik3Mn+er7xxuPNCVsKUJBSxCoedGrnF7bo3Lz+z@mail.gmail.com>
	<717631E0-EE8F-4887-A99B-DA9E2D8F69AD@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <A460111D-9C7F-4434-A2DF-8B33DA1A8D80@openbuddha.com>

Doh. Alice's is the nice one on the RIGHT.

Bob's reference one is on the left.

On Mar 19, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Al Jigen Billings wrote:

> For those that wish to compare, we did a test print of a reference 20mm cube on Alice after the upgrade. I took a photo comparing it with Bob's recent example of the same.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/albill/5541380078/
> 
> Alice's is the nice one on the left. The only problem I had was getting it off the raft, which caused a little distortion because of my methods.
> 
> Al
> 
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Al Jigen Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>> Alice the makerbot has been upgraded to the mk6 plastruder but we still need to
>>> tweak firmware, settings, and permanently mount the board. Please do not print
>>> with Alice until Cliff and I give the all clear.
>> 
>> As predicted, the "officially unsupported" MK6 required only an
>> adapter cable and some firmware changes to work with the Cupcake.
>> Once I'm happy with both I'll document it, in case anyone else wants a
>> MK6.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cliff L. Biffle
>> http://cliffle.com/
> 



From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 17:10:37 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:10:37 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice the makerbot
In-Reply-To: <A460111D-9C7F-4434-A2DF-8B33DA1A8D80@openbuddha.com>
References: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTik3Mn+er7xxuPNCVsKUJBSxCoedGrnF7bo3Lz+z@mail.gmail.com>
	<717631E0-EE8F-4887-A99B-DA9E2D8F69AD@openbuddha.com>
	<A460111D-9C7F-4434-A2DF-8B33DA1A8D80@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikyWUUAZ8vwg22Cm3z1dwU4wRjpgx6m=hL29Y62@mail.gmail.com>

Is that the one I just made on Bob? I was playing around with trying to get
smaller layer heights, but didn't get too far. So it's not a very accurate
comparison. Besides, solid cubes shouldn't show a difference between
calibrated MK5 and MK6, where the MK6 shines is when the extruder has to
turn off and on.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Doh. Alice's is the nice one on the RIGHT.
>
> Bob's reference one is on the left.
>
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Al Jigen Billings wrote:
>
> > For those that wish to compare, we did a test print of a reference 20mm
> cube on Alice after the upgrade. I took a photo comparing it with Bob's
> recent example of the same.
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/albill/5541380078/
> >
> > Alice's is the nice one on the left. The only problem I had was getting
> it off the raft, which caused a little distortion because of my methods.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > On Mar 19, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Al Jigen Billings
> >> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> >>> Alice the makerbot has been upgraded to the mk6 plastruder but we still
> need to
> >>> tweak firmware, settings, and permanently mount the board. Please do
> not print
> >>> with Alice until Cliff and I give the all clear.
> >>
> >> As predicted, the "officially unsupported" MK6 required only an
> >> adapter cable and some firmware changes to work with the Cupcake.
> >> Once I'm happy with both I'll document it, in case anyone else wants a
> >> MK6.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cliff L. Biffle
> >> http://cliffle.com/
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Mar 19 17:30:29 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:30:29 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice the makerbot
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikyWUUAZ8vwg22Cm3z1dwU4wRjpgx6m=hL29Y62@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTik3Mn+er7xxuPNCVsKUJBSxCoedGrnF7bo3Lz+z@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2396A66D-7D72-4CBC-B130-09A944F39DC1@openbuddha.com>

I don't know when the Bob one's were made. There were two and both kind of looked meh.

Al

On Mar 19, 2011, at 5:10 PM, David Rorex wrote:

> Is that the one I just made on Bob? I was playing around with trying to get smaller layer heights, but didn't get too far. So it's not a very accurate comparison. Besides, solid cubes shouldn't show a difference between calibrated MK5 and MK6, where the MK6 shines is when the extruder has to turn off and on.



From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Mar 19 17:37:13 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:37:13 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice the makerbot
In-Reply-To: <2396A66D-7D72-4CBC-B130-09A944F39DC1@openbuddha.com>
References: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTik3Mn+er7xxuPNCVsKUJBSxCoedGrnF7bo3Lz+z@mail.gmail.com>
	<717631E0-EE8F-4887-A99B-DA9E2D8F69AD@openbuddha.com>
	<A460111D-9C7F-4434-A2DF-8B33DA1A8D80@openbuddha.com>
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	<2396A66D-7D72-4CBC-B130-09A944F39DC1@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZB4VjyvWooSNXT31yKDxJiPxs4BpGec3wJv66@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah that's probably the ones I just made, i think i left them next to the
bot. The layers should be noticeably thinner, but didn't come out that
great.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> I don't know when the Bob one's were made. There were two and both kind of
> looked meh.
>
> Al
>
> On Mar 19, 2011, at 5:10 PM, David Rorex wrote:
>
> > Is that the one I just made on Bob? I was playing around with trying to
> get smaller layer heights, but didn't get too far. So it's not a very
> accurate comparison. Besides, solid cubes shouldn't show a difference
> between calibrated MK5 and MK6, where the MK6 shines is when the extruder
> has to turn off and on.
>
>
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From biff at cliffle.com  Sat Mar 19 19:01:35 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:01:35 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Alice the makerbot
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikyWUUAZ8vwg22Cm3z1dwU4wRjpgx6m=hL29Y62@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AD3CCEB7-C5B5-463D-9F5D-25117C570CDD@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTik3Mn+er7xxuPNCVsKUJBSxCoedGrnF7bo3Lz+z@mail.gmail.com>
	<717631E0-EE8F-4887-A99B-DA9E2D8F69AD@openbuddha.com>
	<A460111D-9C7F-4434-A2DF-8B33DA1A8D80@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTikyWUUAZ8vwg22Cm3z1dwU4wRjpgx6m=hL29Y62@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinUN_t7ht1J8V=Lw7vEL5rbGuz+U4pqPexW6rKx@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:10 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Besides, solid cubes shouldn't show a difference between
> calibrated MK5 and MK6, where the MK6 shines is when the extruder has to
> turn off and on.

Right -- the main part of the calibration cube that showed a
difference was where the layers started.  With the MK5 you get a
"seam" effect, where ooze at each layer start stacks up.  Even with
Skeinforge reset to defaults, the seam was noticeably reduced with the
MK6.

I'm hacking on the reversal settings, which are how the MK6 does ooze control.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From biff at cliffle.com  Sun Mar 20 21:22:47 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff Biffle)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:22:47 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Damage to Alice's SD slot
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQAMykOBpdd8Oq4Bz3POMNihFQC-ukVdFqSFc4@mail.gmail.com>

It looks like someone pushed hard enough on Alice's SD slot that two
of the solder joints cracked.

Please be careful inserting/removing SD cards from the MakerBots.
Having hand-soldered a few SD slots in my time, I can assure you
they're not very much fun.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Mar 20 23:18:54 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 23:18:54 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Damage to Alice's SD slot
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQAMykOBpdd8Oq4Bz3POMNihFQC-ukVdFqSFc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikQAMykOBpdd8Oq4Bz3POMNihFQC-ukVdFqSFc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38D047DC-C3EA-4B7B-8BBB-EB40F5A93753@openbuddha.com>


On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:

> It looks like someone pushed hard enough on Alice's SD slot that two
> of the solder joints cracked.

As Cliff and I noticed when we were working on Alice yesterday, the SD card doesn't even read unless you hold the points in contact, basically breaking it. We'll have to fix it but I do want people to be conscious of how fragile the makerbots can be.

Al




From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Mon Mar 21 07:35:52 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:35:52 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] EggBot after Thursday Night's meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinhMxf1HLqMMRxHNbJfuJcwR5r8sMaf1hyUKbZ5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=+jYfdwanUZ2511-15j_XGYQXdCb49EdbZXDs0@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik7K=VHmTuTD1SKo4oc=B-zXpX4csr1C_tEqpLY@mail.gmail.com>
	<B26BE134D8C540C0B2EAE0967E3C4CB8@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinhMxf1HLqMMRxHNbJfuJcwR5r8sMaf1hyUKbZ5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik81P20=erv+=kEU6aciNFAmJZWb-Y=SUupmLQq@mail.gmail.com>

I will try again this week. Last week was sick family central here, so I
couldn't make the meeting.

Cliff, Bring on the big eggs!  It should fit up to baseball size if not
larger.  hard boil them if that is your ultimate endpoint. You won't be able
to do so after he plot. If you plan to blow them out and keep the designs,
then leave it raw and only blow out the keepers.

Thanks,
Sean

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Cliff Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> > Sean didn't come so you didn't miss anything. :(
>
> Yay!  Kind of!
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Mar 21 10:44:58 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:44:58 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: CMKT 4 Hackerspace Tour
References: <4d841ce0.4969e50a.5ea6.ffff9a15@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <B707BAC7-188A-482F-B233-5DA7030C5B25@openbuddha.com>

Thoughts? I just found this stuck in my junk folder (thanks, Gmail!).

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "cmktfour at gmail.com" <cmktfour at gmail.com>
> Date: March 18, 2011 8:03:08 PM PDT
> To: albill at openbuddha.com
> Subject: CMKT 4 Hackerspace Tour
> 
> Hello,
> My name is Jeff, I'm with the circuit-bending rock band CMKT4. We manufacture and sell bottle-cap contact microphones. Recently we have introduced kits for building contact microphones our way and we have started to teach workshops about the process we use to make them. Since then we have taught our workshops at over 15 hackerspaces across the Midwest.
> 
> We are headed to the San Francisco Maker Faire and our tour route will bring us through Oakland on Thursday, May 12th. We were wondering if you would be interested in hosting a contact microphone building workshop at your hackerspace.
> 
> At our workshops, everyone who buys a kit ($15 per workshop attendee, includes a kit; $10 apiece for additional kits)  will learn to solder.  They will also work with hot glue, zip ties, shielded cable, a piezo electric disc and recycled bottle-caps to make a fully functioning Bottle-Cap Contact Microphone.  These microphones pick up physical vibrations and transduce the vibrations into an electrical audio signal.  Students are encouraged to bring instruments and found objects to listen to through the microphones. 
> There is a dry-time involved in the materials we use, however, during that time, we will put on a brief performance for the attendees. For the performance, we will require the use of a PA.
> 
> You can hear more about us at http://www.facebook.com/cmkt4  http://www.myspace.com/cmkt4 and http://cmkt4.bandcamp.com/, we have performance videos at http://www.vimeo.com/channels/cremedementia. Follow us on twitter @cmkt4.
> 
> Thank you for your consideration and keep in touch,
> 
> -Austin Cliffe, Jeff Cox, Zach Adams - CMKT 4 
> 
> www.facebook.com/cmkt4
> getlofi.com/shop
> 

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From heiko.panther at web.de  Mon Mar 21 21:25:03 2011
From: heiko.panther at web.de (Heiko Panther)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:25:03 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Damage to Alice's SD slot
In-Reply-To: <38D047DC-C3EA-4B7B-8BBB-EB40F5A93753@openbuddha.com>
References: <AANLkTikQAMykOBpdd8Oq4Bz3POMNihFQC-ukVdFqSFc4@mail.gmail.com>
	<38D047DC-C3EA-4B7B-8BBB-EB40F5A93753@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <4D88249F.1060907@web.de>

Access to the SD card slot is obstructed by another PCB, leading the
user to bending and pushing the SD card on insertion and extraction. It
would be smart to move components around so an unobstructed access is
possible.

Heiko


On 3/20/11 11:18 PM, Al Jigen Billings wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Cliff Biffle wrote:
>
>> It looks like someone pushed hard enough on Alice's SD slot that two
>> of the solder joints cracked.
> As Cliff and I noticed when we were working on Alice yesterday, the SD card doesn't even read unless you hold the points in contact, basically breaking it. We'll have to fix it but I do want people to be conscious of how fragile the makerbots can be.
>
> Al
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>



From biff at cliffle.com  Mon Mar 21 23:05:02 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:05:02 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Damage to Alice's SD slot
In-Reply-To: <4D88249F.1060907@web.de>
References: <AANLkTikQAMykOBpdd8Oq4Bz3POMNihFQC-ukVdFqSFc4@mail.gmail.com>
	<38D047DC-C3EA-4B7B-8BBB-EB40F5A93753@openbuddha.com>
	<4D88249F.1060907@web.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJ-EXyqxjj3ZqzpzP5Rg-ZqLg7M2zGz5Z0VDtb@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Heiko Panther <heiko.panther at web.de> wrote:
> Access to the SD card slot is obstructed by another PCB, leading the
> user to bending and pushing the SD card on insertion and extraction. It
> would be smart to move components around so an unobstructed access is
> possible.

The SD card can be inserted and removed without being bent, though it
is inconvenient to do so.  Inconvenience is no excuse for breaking the
connector.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Mar 21 23:27:13 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:27:13 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Damage to Alice's SD slot
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJ-EXyqxjj3ZqzpzP5Rg-ZqLg7M2zGz5Z0VDtb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikQAMykOBpdd8Oq4Bz3POMNihFQC-ukVdFqSFc4@mail.gmail.com>
	<38D047DC-C3EA-4B7B-8BBB-EB40F5A93753@openbuddha.com>
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Message-ID: <F9761B1C-87DE-479D-9094-B44F52770EB2@openbuddha.com>


On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:05 PM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Heiko Panther <heiko.panther at web.de> wrote:
>> Access to the SD card slot is obstructed by another PCB, leading the
>> user to bending and pushing the SD card on insertion and extraction. It
>> would be smart to move components around so an unobstructed access is
>> possible.
> 
> The SD card can be inserted and removed without being bent, though it
> is inconvenient to do so.  Inconvenience is no excuse for breaking the
> connector.

Leaving this aside, if someone breaks something on the makerbot, please tell me for Alice and Mike for Bob. Not knowing something is broken is bad.

I'm assuming that whoever broke the SD slot didn't notice at the time since it took us a minute to figure out what the trouble was.

Al



From gittel at twocats.com  Tue Mar 22 21:58:44 2011
From: gittel at twocats.com (Mike Gittelsohn)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:58:44 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] first 3d printed car
Message-ID: <AANLkTikWzgw+tbE6uLN68R8ykcf9nHuRoQTM1T5obFwh@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.designnews.com/article/511989-Urbee_to_Be_First_3_D_Printed_Car.php

This article demonstrates the importance of large format manufacturing
equipment. Soon we may be purchasing cars like buying a suit at the
custom tailor's shop in Woody Allen's "Sleeper".

-- 
Mike Gittelsohn
1638 Ward Street
Berkeley, CA 94703
510-812-8620 (cell)
gittel at twocats.com


From biff at cliffle.com  Wed Mar 23 00:09:03 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:09:03 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Some MakerBot performance notes
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZjWtQe4eeVW9pagWG6y24vZSVZ1GxaSK7tNzq@mail.gmail.com>

I've spent the last few days improving the performance of the Gen3
electronics, and I discovered something kind of interesting: the
Cupcake's serial link can actually go faster than ReplicatorG.

http://cliffle.com/project/eris-firmware/2011/03/22/repg-performance/

This is probably good, because it's a lot easier for people to hack on
RepG than the firmware.


Also: have you been looking for new and exciting ways to light your
MakerBot on fire?  Haven't done anything foolish in a while?  Then try
my fork of the Gen3 firmware!  It's faster, smaller, and has a new
lemon-fresh scent.  http://github.com/cbiffle/G3Firmware

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From emprameen at gmail.com  Wed Mar 23 21:29:25 2011
From: emprameen at gmail.com (Rameen)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:29:25 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire Hackerspace Area
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=qzpLbBK=w-LoZ7_zW4DuVwPO5fAHB60J2N3-_@mail.gmail.com>

I was forwarded this message as coordinator of the Noisebridge booth.
I've seen the posts for AMTD's preparations, but I didn't keep track of who
to contact for something like this
Anyway, I'd love to hang out with you guys, and I think it's a great idea.

What say you, fine hacker space?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Willow Brugh <willow at jigsawrenaissance.org>
Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 09:30
Subject: Maker Faire hacker/maker space area
To:


Hi all,

I'm feeling out the potential of having a dedicated area for hacker and
maker spaces at Maker Faires this year. If there's enough interest, MAKE has
endorsed this idea. It would give us a chance to get to know each other, to
share projects, and to maybe have a few in-person challenges.

If you're up for this, please fill out the handy-dandy
form<https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/schoolfactory.org/viewform?formkey=dEx6T0VLYWJjZm40ZzZmTkFPc01TS3c6MQ>.
Submission deadline for indicating interest is 4/1, at which point we'll
figure out if we're pushing forward with this or scraping the idea.

Please pass this on to anyone and everyone. It would be great to have huge
groups of awesome people!

Thanks so much.

Willow Brugh

director, Jigsaw Renaissance
http://jigsawrenaissance.org
organizer, Seattle H+ Discussion Group
http://st.imul.us
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From atmanistan at gmail.com  Thu Mar 24 11:28:04 2011
From: atmanistan at gmail.com (Sam Putman)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:28:04 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] E-waste and other recycling resource
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=wAsf-LKPqsQWQJYXKhv9AiU54uj7jB1QUJctj@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Let's face it: a hackerspace generates a lot of waste and sooner or
later we'll need to dispose of it responsibly.

I recently found this page:

http://www.unwaste.com/materials.html

They are Oakland based and take a wide variety of materials in for
recycling. Notably, they will take any electronic waste for free.

It's possible that, since we're a nonprofit, and they make money on
materials resale, that they'd be willing to do (say) a monthly ewaste
pickup for free as well. I have not contacted them.


cheers,
-Sam.


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Mar 27 15:48:51 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:48:51 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Opening double doors for putting large laser in back room
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikF+ANiSU592AuraCJV3EJ1ffN2Yu8BT9d3hR3O@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=1HT_7yUosP3vyzoOz_c=YtGX2bzFQhm+0WCfm@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikF+ANiSU592AuraCJV3EJ1ffN2Yu8BT9d3hR3O@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D54590FB-F81A-449D-882F-0522037C3775@openbuddha.com>

I endorse this idea. It's WINNING.

 - Al (punchy from lack of sleep and in the Las Vegas airport)

On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Mike Gittelsohn wrote:

> Today I went to Home Depot, Urban Ore and Ashby Lumber to check out
> prices for double doors. Urban Ore does not have much in the way of
> pre-hung double doors, and trying to get two single doors to work
> would be a lot of work. Ashby has some pre-hung double metal doors for
> about $400. I ran into the landlord outside AMT this afternoon. He
> promised to send me the name of the company which made the doors for
> the building. I expect the price to be in the $400 range, maybe
> cheaper. Installation would take a few hours by 2 guys. The wall which
> separates the 2 rooms downstairs is not a load bearing wall. The
> landlord seemed enthusiastic about the whole idea, including the door
> and the laser.
> 
> I am in favor of the larger size laser because larger sizes are more
> productive. My Shopbot can hold a 4'x8' piece of plywood. Not only can
> it cut large objects, but many smaller objects can be laid out on a
> large piece of plywood and cut out after loading a single sheet. With
> a smaller format, a human being would have to manually feed smaller
> sheets. One of the biggest advantages of large is efficiency of
> production, which is one of the primary goals of robotic fabrication.
> 
> It seems that the laser is going to be one of the most popular tools
> in the whole space, so it seems prudent to plan for flexibility in its
> location. The laser is incompatible with the sparks and metal shavings
> put out by metal working tools. So we should isolate the metal shop
> from the laser shop. A movable folding wall built from self-built
> panels (2x2 frames with 1/4" OSB panels - like big Shoji screens)
> would be easy to make and flexible enough to move around as conditions
> require.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Could you send a short update to the laser list, since most people weren't
>> at the meeting? About your thoughts on how easy & inexpensive it would be to
>> open up the double doors in the back room, and on putting up an easy drywall
>> or plywood wall to section off the laser cutter from the rest of the room.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mike Gittelsohn
> 1638 Ward Street
> Berkeley, CA 94703
> 510-812-8620 (cell)
> gittel at twocats.com



From myles at tenhand.com  Mon Mar 28 15:49:43 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:49:43 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
Message-ID: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>


I'm making it official. 

Saturday April 23, 11am. 

Any objections, stylistic improvements &etc? I'd like to post this  on the wiki & up at berkeley bowl this weekend.  Let me know if you'd be free to help people with crimping leads, calculating effective wattage &etc. 


Oakland's new hackerspace, Ace Monster Toys,  is offering a public class in building small solar power systems. You'll learn how to build anything from a solar powered bike light, to an emergency power charger, to taking your bedroom or field research site off the grid. The emphasis is on being safe, cheap and practical in a small footprint, where the whole system can be moved. 

The class will be on Saturday April 23rd, broken into two sections: 11am  to 1pm  will cover how power systems are built, and 1pm - 4 will be a chance to use Ace Monster Toy's tools and experience to build your own system. 

. The Theory class will cover
  -  A hands on walk through the parts of a solar power system, from battery to solar panel & all the parts that go between. 
  - How to calculate the right size of solar panel and battery for your needs.  
 - Where to shop for cheap & safe parts. 
  - Useful electronic theory ( How understanding watt calculations will keep you from getting ripped off on ebay) 
  - Legal  and safety issues.   ( Why you'll be spending a lot on fuses, and how to build something that could pass an electrical inspection) 
  - How to secure your solar panels. 

The afternoon workshop will allow anyone to assemble the wiring and fuses needed to make a system. We'll have a few batteries, charge controllers, inverters and solar panels for you to test out your system, and will help you to calculate how  what type of battery and panel to buy.  We'll have a few items for sale, but most people should order from the vendors. When the parts arrive at your house, you'll be able to quickly plug everything together and be confident it will work.  Depending on attendee interest, we may schedule a follow up session to finish construction.  Attendees will need to pay for parts used, most systems will use $15-40 in parts. 

Ace Monster Toys is a Hackerspace in the SF Bay Area in Oakland (quite near Berkeley and Emeryville). The address 6050 Lowell, near Alcatraz and Sacramento.  You can find driving instructions on our website at acemonstertoys.org . 
 As a 501c3, we provide public classes on hands-on technology, and we appreciate your donations. 
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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Mon Mar 28 15:58:24 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:58:24 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
In-Reply-To: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
References: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=AxktL1ocXu2B5DJpCV7Nu=5u5yHBgeDjgMgAe@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds awesome Myles!

I plan to attend!

Thanks,
Sean

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM, myles <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:

>
> I'm making it official.
>
> Saturday April 23, 11am.
>
> Any objections, stylistic improvements &etc? I'd like to post this  on the
> wiki & up at berkeley bowl this weekend.  Let me know if you'd be free to
> help people with crimping leads, calculating effective wattage &etc.
>
>
> Oakland's new hackerspace, Ace Monster Toys,  is offering a public class in
> building small solar power systems. You'll learn how to build anything from
> a solar powered bike light, to an emergency power charger, to taking your
> bedroom or field research site off the grid. The emphasis is on being safe,
> cheap and practical in a small footprint, where the whole system can be
> moved.
>
> The class will be on Saturday April 23rd, broken into two sections: 11am
>  to 1pm  will cover how power systems are built, and 1pm - 4 will be a
> chance to use Ace Monster Toy's tools and experience to build your own
> system.
>
> . The Theory class will cover
>   -  A hands on walk through the parts of a solar power system, from
> battery to solar panel & all the parts that go between.
>   - How to calculate the right size of solar panel and battery for your
> needs.
>  - Where to shop for cheap & safe parts.
>   - Useful electronic theory ( How understanding watt calculations will
> keep you from getting ripped off on ebay)
>   - Legal  and safety issues.   ( Why you'll be spending a lot on fuses,
> and how to build something that could pass an electrical inspection)
>   - How to secure your solar panels.
>
> The afternoon workshop will allow anyone to assemble the wiring and fuses
> needed to make a system. We'll have a few batteries, charge controllers,
> inverters and solar panels for you to test out your system, and will help
> you to calculate how  what type of battery and panel to buy.  We'll have a
> few items for sale, but most people should order from the vendors. When the
> parts arrive at your house, you'll be able to quickly plug everything
> together and be confident it will work.  Depending on attendee interest, we
> may schedule a follow up session to finish construction.  Attendees will
> need to pay for parts used, most systems will use $15-40 in parts.
>
> Ace Monster Toys is a Hackerspace<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackerspace>in the SF Bay Area in Oakland (quite near Berkeley and Emeryville). The
> address 6050 Lowell, near Alcatraz and Sacramento.  You can find driving
> instructions on our website at acemonstertoys.org .
>  As a 501c3, we provide public classes on hands-on technology, and we
> appreciate your donations.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
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From graham.freeman at cernio.com  Mon Mar 28 16:04:09 2011
From: graham.freeman at cernio.com (Graham Freeman)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:04:09 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
In-Reply-To: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
References: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <EE9224F4-D587-4DD4-ABB9-CE3DE8BF6C94@cernio.com>


Stoked.

My unused 80w panels, charge controller, inverter, etc. and I will do our best to make this.

-G


On 28 Mar 11, at 15:49 , myles wrote:

> 
> I'm making it official. 
> 
> Saturday April 23, 11am. 
> 
> Any objections, stylistic improvements &etc? I'd like to post this  on the wiki & up at berkeley bowl this weekend.  Let me know if you'd be free to help people with crimping leads, calculating effective wattage &etc. 
> 
> 
> Oakland's new hackerspace, Ace Monster Toys,  is offering a public class in building small solar power systems. You'll learn how to build anything from a solar powered bike light, to an emergency power charger, to taking your bedroom or field research site off the grid. The emphasis is on being safe, cheap and practical in a small footprint, where the whole system can be moved. 
> 
> The class will be on Saturday April 23rd, broken into two sections: 11am  to 1pm  will cover how power systems are built, and 1pm - 4 will be a chance to use Ace Monster Toy's tools and experience to build your own system. 
> 
> . The Theory class will cover
>   -  A hands on walk through the parts of a solar power system, from battery to solar panel & all the parts that go between. 
>   - How to calculate the right size of solar panel and battery for your needs.  
>  - Where to shop for cheap & safe parts. 
>   - Useful electronic theory ( How understanding watt calculations will keep you from getting ripped off on ebay) 
>   - Legal  and safety issues.   ( Why you'll be spending a lot on fuses, and how to build something that could pass an electrical inspection) 
>   - How to secure your solar panels. 
> 
> The afternoon workshop will allow anyone to assemble the wiring and fuses needed to make a system. We'll have a few batteries, charge controllers, inverters and solar panels for you to test out your system, and will help you to calculate how  what type of battery and panel to buy.  We'll have a few items for sale, but most people should order from the vendors. When the parts arrive at your house, you'll be able to quickly plug everything together and be confident it will work.  Depending on attendee interest, we may schedule a follow up session to finish construction.  Attendees will need to pay for parts used, most systems will use $15-40 in parts. 
> 
> Ace Monster Toys is a Hackerspace in the SF Bay Area in Oakland (quite near Berkeley and Emeryville). The address 6050 Lowell, near Alcatraz and Sacramento.  You can find driving instructions on our website at acemonstertoys.org . 
>  As a 501c3, we provide public classes on hands-on technology, and we appreciate your donations. 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Mar 28 16:32:45 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:32:45 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
In-Reply-To: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
References: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <8055F416-478F-4B4F-9F6C-D74D586E6006@openbuddha.com>

This looks great to me and I'll be there.

Let's get it up on the drupal site in our calendar, a blog post, and in the Facebook calendar. :-)

Al

On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:49 PM, myles wrote:

> 
> I'm making it official. 
> 
> Saturday April 23, 11am. 
> 
> Any objections, stylistic improvements &etc? I'd like to post this  on the wiki & up at berkeley bowl this weekend.  Let me know if you'd be free to help people with crimping leads, calculating effective wattage &etc. 
> 
> 
> Oakland's new hackerspace, Ace Monster Toys,  is offering a public class in building small solar power systems. You'll learn how to build anything from a solar powered bike light, to an emergency power charger, to taking your bedroom or field research site off the grid. The emphasis is on being safe, cheap and practical in a small footprint, where the whole system can be moved. 
> 
> The class will be on Saturday April 23rd, broken into two sections: 11am  to 1pm  will cover how power systems are built, and 1pm - 4 will be a chance to use Ace Monster Toy's tools and experience to build your own system. 
> 
> . The Theory class will cover
>   -  A hands on walk through the parts of a solar power system, from battery to solar panel & all the parts that go between. 
>   - How to calculate the right size of solar panel and battery for your needs.  
>  - Where to shop for cheap & safe parts. 
>   - Useful electronic theory ( How understanding watt calculations will keep you from getting ripped off on ebay) 
>   - Legal  and safety issues.   ( Why you'll be spending a lot on fuses, and how to build something that could pass an electrical inspection) 
>   - How to secure your solar panels. 
> 
> The afternoon workshop will allow anyone to assemble the wiring and fuses needed to make a system. We'll have a few batteries, charge controllers, inverters and solar panels for you to test out your system, and will help you to calculate how  what type of battery and panel to buy.  We'll have a few items for sale, but most people should order from the vendors. When the parts arrive at your house, you'll be able to quickly plug everything together and be confident it will work.  Depending on attendee interest, we may schedule a follow up session to finish construction.  Attendees will need to pay for parts used, most systems will use $15-40 in parts. 
> 
> Ace Monster Toys is a Hackerspace in the SF Bay Area in Oakland (quite near Berkeley and Emeryville). The address 6050 Lowell, near Alcatraz and Sacramento.  You can find driving instructions on our website at acemonstertoys.org . 
>  As a 501c3, we provide public classes on hands-on technology, and we appreciate your donations. 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar 29 10:52:39 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:52:39 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Upcoming Classes
Message-ID: <F5A96B57-6AA5-4BB6-9458-AF726D7CEB85@openbuddha.com>

Can all of you running an upcoming class or workshop post this to the AMT website and calendar or contact me if you need me to post it for you? Ideally, it would be good to do an announcement post on the website as well, as those are syndicated to the public (who aren't here) and to our Facebook page. I'll create Facebook events as well for anything we list.

Right now, the only thing listed on our calendar is David's second microcontroller class tomorrow.

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar 29 13:52:10 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:52:10 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Grbl
Message-ID: <63FB877D-FFCB-477B-93E7-C63C868AA789@openbuddha.com>

Have we thought of using grbl with the cnc?

> http://dank.bengler.no/-/page/show/5470_grbl?ref=mst

http://github.com/simen/grbl

Al

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From drorex at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 15:16:19 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:16:19 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Grbl
In-Reply-To: <63FB877D-FFCB-477B-93E7-C63C868AA789@openbuddha.com>
References: <63FB877D-FFCB-477B-93E7-C63C868AA789@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiki7QqZaPbBJUF3wQYvz4EWQ5wd9Pco86xAtjon@mail.gmail.com>

Looks interesting. Similar in theory to how the makerbot electronics work.
If we go this way, we don't have to worry about PC latency issues. I even
have a spare atmega328 we can donate to it. One downside though, is he
didn't finish the documentation. He wrote everything except the part that
tells you how to actually use it, so that will require digging through the
code a bit.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Have we thought of using grbl with the cnc?
>
> http://dank.bengler.no/-/page/show/5470_grbl?ref=mst
>
>
> http://github.com/simen/grbl
>
> Al
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From gittel at twocats.com  Tue Mar 29 17:15:50 2011
From: gittel at twocats.com (Mike Gittelsohn)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:15:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] bee hives at Ace Monster Toys
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>

Jonathan (from Berkeley Coworking) and I are making medium Langstroth
beehive boxes in the AMT wood shop. We have 22 medium size boxes
almost done, and will be adding handles, bottoms, feeders, and some
other things this week. We're getting a bunch of bees in early April.
Don't worry - we will not bring the bees into AMT.

Tell me if you are interested in the process of building beehives and
I'll give a short demo on Thursday. It's also fairly useful to know
how to build pine boxes in general. We settled on a process which is
really accurate and fairly quick. We bought 12 foot long pine boards,
and cut them down to the right lengths on the radial arm saw. The chop
saw does not work for the 8" boards, and the table saw crosscut fence
is not really tight enough to get accurate 90 degree cuts, so we
settled on the radial arm saw. We could set a stop on the fence so
that each board was cut to exactly the correct length without having
to measure it each time. That saves a lot of time. We ripped each
board to the correct width on the table saw using the metal fence.
Then we cut 3/8" rabbets on the end of each board using the table saw.
http://www.table-saw-guide.com/woodworking-joints.html . Each rabbet
requires two cuts. We tried to use the router table to cut the
rabbets, but it was easier with the table saw. Rabbet joints are
stronger than lap joints
(http://www6.district125.k12.il.us/teched/Courses/TDresources/WoodJoints.html
) because they have more surface area for the glue to hold. The last
time I made bee hives I used 8 clamps to hold the thing together until
the glue dried. That meant I could only make one per day because I
only have 8 clamps. This time we wanted to make 22 in one day, so we
decided to glue them together and hold them with 1 1/4" nails using a
nail gun powered by a compressor. This is really the way to go. We
build a jig on a piece of MDF to hold the boards in place on the
bottom, squeezed them with 4 clamps, and then nailed them and took
them out of the jig. It went fast and easy. This is a great way to
build boxes for many purposes - such as holding stuff or growing
stuff.

Next I'm going to try making finger joints on the CNC.

Mike


From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Mar 29 17:18:41 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:18:41 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] bee hives at Ace Monster Toys
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B23D8AFB-C2BF-4E90-960A-76CECC7E66A5@openbuddha.com>

I'm interested in bee hives.

Al



From romanian at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 17:30:14 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:30:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] bee hives at Ace Monster Toys
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Z3WyZGjtqNMG6BRULJQ4d9r+OZ1Vb_vTAfqz_@mail.gmail.com>

this is awesome! i'm interested in bees too :)

don't forget to post pictures if you can!


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Mike Gittelsohn <gittel at twocats.com> wrote:
> Jonathan (from Berkeley Coworking) and I are making medium Langstroth
> beehive boxes in the AMT wood shop. We have 22 medium size boxes
> almost done, and will be adding handles, bottoms, feeders, and some
> other things this week. We're getting a bunch of bees in early April.
> Don't worry - we will not bring the bees into AMT.
>
> Tell me if you are interested in the process of building beehives and
> I'll give a short demo on Thursday. It's also fairly useful to know
> how to build pine boxes in general. We settled on a process which is
> really accurate and fairly quick. We bought 12 foot long pine boards,
> and cut them down to the right lengths on the radial arm saw. The chop
> saw does not work for the 8" boards, and the table saw crosscut fence
> is not really tight enough to get accurate 90 degree cuts, so we
> settled on the radial arm saw. We could set a stop on the fence so
> that each board was cut to exactly the correct length without having
> to measure it each time. That saves a lot of time. We ripped each
> board to the correct width on the table saw using the metal fence.
> Then we cut 3/8" rabbets on the end of each board using the table saw.
> http://www.table-saw-guide.com/woodworking-joints.html . Each rabbet
> requires two cuts. We tried to use the router table to cut the
> rabbets, but it was easier with the table saw. Rabbet joints are
> stronger than lap joints
> (http://www6.district125.k12.il.us/teched/Courses/TDresources/WoodJoints.html
> ) because they have more surface area for the glue to hold. The last
> time I made bee hives I used 8 clamps to hold the thing together until
> the glue dried. That meant I could only make one per day because I
> only have 8 clamps. This time we wanted to make 22 in one day, so we
> decided to glue them together and hold them with 1 1/4" nails using a
> nail gun powered by a compressor. This is really the way to go. We
> build a jig on a piece of MDF to hold the boards in place on the
> bottom, squeezed them with 4 clamps, and then nailed them and took
> them out of the jig. It went fast and easy. This is a great way to
> build boxes for many purposes - such as holding stuff or growing
> stuff.
>
> Next I'm going to try making finger joints on the CNC.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From biff at cliffle.com  Tue Mar 29 19:57:02 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:57:02 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] bee hives at Ace Monster Toys
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=dJZ4Pu6Bpf53rwOZ7ph77Xh5u9iJFPkW8Z8CA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Mike Gittelsohn <gittel at twocats.com> wrote:
> Tell me if you are interested in the process of building beehives and
> I'll give a short demo on Thursday.

Ooh, me too.

I know I could just ask the gals over at Biodiesel Oasis, but -- any
idea about Berkeley beekeeping laws?  A lot of cities have rather
misguided rules.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From biff at cliffle.com  Tue Mar 29 20:05:01 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:05:01 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Grbl
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiki7QqZaPbBJUF3wQYvz4EWQ5wd9Pco86xAtjon@mail.gmail.com>
References: <63FB877D-FFCB-477B-93E7-C63C868AA789@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTiki7QqZaPbBJUF3wQYvz4EWQ5wd9Pco86xAtjon@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=r1LLKXnqUXN59Uiam2W-HnvWL93YPz7R4bm1h@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:16 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks interesting. Similar in theory to how the makerbot electronics work.
> If we go this way, we don't have to worry about PC latency issues.

Aye.  I'm firmly convinced that we need a G-Code parser on the AVR, if
only because I want to move things like curve planning onto the AVR
itself.  (I've got latency firmly licked:
http://cliffle.com/project/eris/2011/03/24/ft232r-turbo-mode/ )  Maybe
we should just port grbl to the gen3 electronics?

I've been reading through RepG's sources, and customizing the MakerBot
driver to send G-Code instead of S3G would be straightforward.
(Although RepG turns out to be really slow, adding constant
20ms/packet latency for reasons I don't understand.)

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From gittel at twocats.com  Tue Mar 29 20:43:05 2011
From: gittel at twocats.com (Mike Gittelsohn)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:43:05 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] bee hives at Ace Monster Toys
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=dJZ4Pu6Bpf53rwOZ7ph77Xh5u9iJFPkW8Z8CA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=dJZ4Pu6Bpf53rwOZ7ph77Xh5u9iJFPkW8Z8CA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=nuFOTiw=Gxm8LkSxksbumMUYPHxa8S4OJSaZW@mail.gmail.com>

I've had bees in Berkeley for less than a year. As far as I know,
there are no rules against it. My neighbors have never complained.
Jonathan will come on Thursday night to answer any questions about
beekeeping. It's kind of fun to watch the bees expand the hive, not
much work (after building the hives), and the honey is good to eat and
give to friends. I've only been stung when I was messing around inside
the hive without gloves on.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Mike Gittelsohn <gittel at twocats.com> wrote:
>> Tell me if you are interested in the process of building beehives and
>> I'll give a short demo on Thursday.
>
> Ooh, me too.
>
> I know I could just ask the gals over at Biodiesel Oasis, but -- any
> idea about Berkeley beekeeping laws? ?A lot of cities have rather
> misguided rules.
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>



-- 
Mike Gittelsohn
1638 Ward Street
Berkeley, CA 94703
510-812-8620 (cell)
gittel at twocats.com


From biff at cliffle.com  Tue Mar 29 21:20:10 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:20:10 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] bee hives at Ace Monster Toys
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=nuFOTiw=Gxm8LkSxksbumMUYPHxa8S4OJSaZW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=dJZ4Pu6Bpf53rwOZ7ph77Xh5u9iJFPkW8Z8CA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=nuFOTiw=Gxm8LkSxksbumMUYPHxa8S4OJSaZW@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Mike Gittelsohn <gittel at twocats.com> wrote:
> I've had bees in Berkeley for less than a year. As far as I know,
> there are no rules against it.

Awesome.  Our neighbors are pretty chill -- amazing how people drop
objections to chickens when they start getting free eggs. :-)  I've
been interested in beekeeping ever since Biodiesel Oasis built out
their beekeeping supplies section.

This seems like good workshop material.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From raines at mac.com  Tue Mar 29 21:27:26 2011
From: raines at mac.com (Raines Cohen)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:27:26 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] bee hives at Ace Monster Toys
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=Qcq-9JbMhnKvRVjNV6run2EZQ2gpf1NECr74o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVBFfhyHSpK574dOsVfP+yo4RXzDkmcno-qyor@mail.gmail.com>

Mike & Jonathan -

I'm on some area "homesteading" & transition town & permaculture mailing
lists plus some of our 1300+ East Bay Cohousing
(EBCOHO<http://www.ebcoho.org/>)
members would be very interested. Could we schedule a formal workshop on
this topic?

There are several sites that may be equipped to host hives and could
contribute to workshop costs if they got a hive out of the deal -- probably
somebody else could join in for education about bees/beekeeping and the soft
side of the process.

Raines
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From romanian at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 00:24:18 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:24:18 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Grbl
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=r1LLKXnqUXN59Uiam2W-HnvWL93YPz7R4bm1h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <63FB877D-FFCB-477B-93E7-C63C868AA789@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTiki7QqZaPbBJUF3wQYvz4EWQ5wd9Pco86xAtjon@mail.gmail.com>
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something like http://www.contraptor.org/grbl-gcode-interpreter ?

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:16 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Looks interesting. Similar in theory to how the makerbot electronics work.
>> If we go this way, we don't have to worry about PC latency issues.
>
> Aye. ?I'm firmly convinced that we need a G-Code parser on the AVR, if
> only because I want to move things like curve planning onto the AVR
> itself. ?(I've got latency firmly licked:
> http://cliffle.com/project/eris/2011/03/24/ft232r-turbo-mode/ ) ?Maybe
> we should just port grbl to the gen3 electronics?
>
> I've been reading through RepG's sources, and customizing the MakerBot
> driver to send G-Code instead of S3G would be straightforward.
> (Although RepG turns out to be really slow, adding constant
> 20ms/packet latency for reasons I don't understand.)
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From biff at cliffle.com  Wed Mar 30 09:48:09 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:48:09 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Grbl
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinevNuPh6KoO=HYTN0Ur1Jhc5ncR6kX5QmXwFao@mail.gmail.com>
References: <63FB877D-FFCB-477B-93E7-C63C868AA789@openbuddha.com>
	<AANLkTiki7QqZaPbBJUF3wQYvz4EWQ5wd9Pco86xAtjon@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=r1LLKXnqUXN59Uiam2W-HnvWL93YPz7R4bm1h@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> something like http://www.contraptor.org/grbl-gcode-interpreter ?

Yeah, that's what I meant by "Maybe we should just port grbl to the
gen3 electronics".  We don't really need anything but the G-Code
interpreter.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From myles at tenhand.com  Wed Mar 30 13:10:48 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:10:48 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
In-Reply-To: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
References: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <20550749-01D1-4FC8-AF30-9CA9F252E030@tenhand.com>

Will someone with the proper permissions please set up a blog post about this class? I have a wiki entry [Solar Class]. 


On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:49 PM, myles wrote:

> 
> I'm making it official. 
> 
> Saturday April 23, 11am. 
> 
> Any objections, stylistic improvements &etc? I'd like to post this  on the wiki & up at berkeley bowl this weekend.  Let me know if you'd be free to help people with crimping leads, calculating effective wattage &etc. 
> 
> 
> Oakland's new hackerspace, Ace Monster Toys,  is offering a public class in building small solar power systems. You'll learn how to build anything from a solar powered bike light, to an emergency power charger, to taking your bedroom or field research site off the grid. The emphasis is on being safe, cheap and practical in a small footprint, where the whole system can be moved. 
> 
> The class will be on Saturday April 23rd, broken into two sections: 11am  to 1pm  will cover how power systems are built, and 1pm - 4 will be a chance to use Ace Monster Toy's tools and experience to build your own system. 
> 
> . The Theory class will cover
>   -  A hands on walk through the parts of a solar power system, from battery to solar panel & all the parts that go between. 
>   - How to calculate the right size of solar panel and battery for your needs.  
>  - Where to shop for cheap & safe parts. 
>   - Useful electronic theory ( How understanding watt calculations will keep you from getting ripped off on ebay) 
>   - Legal  and safety issues.   ( Why you'll be spending a lot on fuses, and how to build something that could pass an electrical inspection) 
>   - How to secure your solar panels. 
> 
> The afternoon workshop will allow anyone to assemble the wiring and fuses needed to make a system. We'll have a few batteries, charge controllers, inverters and solar panels for you to test out your system, and will help you to calculate how  what type of battery and panel to buy.  We'll have a few items for sale, but most people should order from the vendors. When the parts arrive at your house, you'll be able to quickly plug everything together and be confident it will work.  Depending on attendee interest, we may schedule a follow up session to finish construction.  Attendees will need to pay for parts used, most systems will use $15-40 in parts. 
> 
> Ace Monster Toys is a Hackerspace in the SF Bay Area in Oakland (quite near Berkeley and Emeryville). The address 6050 Lowell, near Alcatraz and Sacramento.  You can find driving instructions on our website at acemonstertoys.org . 
>  As a 501c3, we provide public classes on hands-on technology, and we appreciate your donations. 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Wed Mar 30 13:13:51 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:13:51 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
In-Reply-To: <20550749-01D1-4FC8-AF30-9CA9F252E030@tenhand.com>
References: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
	<20550749-01D1-4FC8-AF30-9CA9F252E030@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin62ZbzpTaxTCKGM0e1b=5gbtD+Snx_XkkLy7JU@mail.gmail.com>

Myles,

If you are able to edit the WIKI, you should have publishing rights in the
Drupal system that runs http://acemonstertoys.org.

You may need to log out & log back in to set the appropriate cookies.  Once
logged in, the create content button should appear lower right on each page.

Thanks,
Sean

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:10 PM, myles <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:

> Will someone with the proper permissions please set up a blog post about
> this class? I have a wiki entry [Solar Class].
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:49 PM, myles wrote:
>
>
> I'm making it official.
>
> Saturday April 23, 11am.
>
> Any objections, stylistic improvements &etc? I'd like to post this  on the
> wiki & up at berkeley bowl this weekend.  Let me know if you'd be free to
> help people with crimping leads, calculating effective wattage &etc.
>
>
> Oakland's new hackerspace, Ace Monster Toys,  is offering a public class in
> building small solar power systems. You'll learn how to build anything from
> a solar powered bike light, to an emergency power charger, to taking your
> bedroom or field research site off the grid. The emphasis is on being safe,
> cheap and practical in a small footprint, where the whole system can be
> moved.
>
> The class will be on Saturday April 23rd, broken into two sections: 11am
>  to 1pm  will cover how power systems are built, and 1pm - 4 will be a
> chance to use Ace Monster Toy's tools and experience to build your own
> system.
>
> . The Theory class will cover
>   -  A hands on walk through the parts of a solar power system, from
> battery to solar panel & all the parts that go between.
>   - How to calculate the right size of solar panel and battery for your
> needs.
>  - Where to shop for cheap & safe parts.
>   - Useful electronic theory ( How understanding watt calculations will
> keep you from getting ripped off on ebay)
>   - Legal  and safety issues.   ( Why you'll be spending a lot on fuses,
> and how to build something that could pass an electrical inspection)
>   - How to secure your solar panels.
>
> The afternoon workshop will allow anyone to assemble the wiring and fuses
> needed to make a system. We'll have a few batteries, charge controllers,
> inverters and solar panels for you to test out your system, and will help
> you to calculate how  what type of battery and panel to buy.  We'll have a
> few items for sale, but most people should order from the vendors. When the
> parts arrive at your house, you'll be able to quickly plug everything
> together and be confident it will work.  Depending on attendee interest, we
> may schedule a follow up session to finish construction.  Attendees will
> need to pay for parts used, most systems will use $15-40 in parts.
>
> Ace Monster Toys is a Hackerspace<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackerspace>in the SF Bay Area in Oakland (quite near Berkeley and Emeryville). The
> address 6050 Lowell, near Alcatraz and Sacramento.  You can find driving
> instructions on our website at acemonstertoys.org .
>  As a 501c3, we provide public classes on hands-on technology, and we
> appreciate your donations.
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Wed Mar 30 13:23:26 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:23:26 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin62ZbzpTaxTCKGM0e1b=5gbtD+Snx_XkkLy7JU@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
	<20550749-01D1-4FC8-AF30-9CA9F252E030@tenhand.com>
	<AANLkTin62ZbzpTaxTCKGM0e1b=5gbtD+Snx_XkkLy7JU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <593FB4C9-6C6E-43CA-B121-9EDBB8C9D325@openbuddha.com>

I'll post for him. We can go over how to post on the site on Thursday if people want. :-)

Drupal is non-intuitive.

On Mar 30, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Sean O'Steen wrote:

> Myles,
> 
> If you are able to edit the WIKI, you should have publishing rights in the Drupal system that runs http://acemonstertoys.org.
> 
> You may need to log out & log back in to set the appropriate cookies.  Once logged in, the create content button should appear lower right on each page.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sean
> 
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:10 PM, myles <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:
> Will someone with the proper permissions please set up a blog post about this class? I have a wiki entry [Solar Class]. 
> 
> 
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:49 PM, myles wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I'm making it official. 
>> 
>> Saturday April 23, 11am. 
>> 
>> Any objections, stylistic improvements &etc? I'd like to post this  on the wiki & up at berkeley bowl this weekend.  Let me know if you'd be free to help people with crimping leads, calculating effective wattage &etc. 
>> 
>> 
>> Oakland's new hackerspace, Ace Monster Toys,  is offering a public class in building small solar power systems. You'll learn how to build anything from a solar powered bike light, to an emergency power charger, to taking your bedroom or field research site off the grid. The emphasis is on being safe, cheap and practical in a small footprint, where the whole system can be moved. 
>> 
>> The class will be on Saturday April 23rd, broken into two sections: 11am  to 1pm  will cover how power systems are built, and 1pm - 4 will be a chance to use Ace Monster Toy's tools and experience to build your own system. 
>> 
>> . The Theory class will cover
>>   -  A hands on walk through the parts of a solar power system, from battery to solar panel & all the parts that go between. 
>>   - How to calculate the right size of solar panel and battery for your needs.  
>>  - Where to shop for cheap & safe parts. 
>>   - Useful electronic theory ( How understanding watt calculations will keep you from getting ripped off on ebay) 
>>   - Legal  and safety issues.   ( Why you'll be spending a lot on fuses, and how to build something that could pass an electrical inspection) 
>>   - How to secure your solar panels. 
>> 
>> The afternoon workshop will allow anyone to assemble the wiring and fuses needed to make a system. We'll have a few batteries, charge controllers, inverters and solar panels for you to test out your system, and will help you to calculate how  what type of battery and panel to buy.  We'll have a few items for sale, but most people should order from the vendors. When the parts arrive at your house, you'll be able to quickly plug everything together and be confident it will work.  Depending on attendee interest, we may schedule a follow up session to finish construction.  Attendees will need to pay for parts used, most systems will use $15-40 in parts. 
>> 
>> Ace Monster Toys is a Hackerspace in the SF Bay Area in Oakland (quite near Berkeley and Emeryville). The address 6050 Lowell, near Alcatraz and Sacramento.  You can find driving instructions on our website at acemonstertoys.org . 
>>  As a 501c3, we provide public classes on hands-on technology, and we appreciate your donations. 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Wed Mar 30 13:42:49 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:42:49 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
In-Reply-To: <20550749-01D1-4FC8-AF30-9CA9F252E030@tenhand.com>
References: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
	<20550749-01D1-4FC8-AF30-9CA9F252E030@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <871F4F23-B1D3-4499-AA38-6556C0EDEE6D@openbuddha.com>

I created a story with the text of the wiki page and then fixed the meeting that was there. I'm not sure how to get it in the sidebar.

Al



From drorex at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 14:20:31 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:20:31 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] mini-solar class announcement
In-Reply-To: <871F4F23-B1D3-4499-AA38-6556C0EDEE6D@openbuddha.com>
References: <C7A565EF-4620-4657-BF34-80398583EB56@tenhand.com>
	<20550749-01D1-4FC8-AF30-9CA9F252E030@tenhand.com>
	<871F4F23-B1D3-4499-AA38-6556C0EDEE6D@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimGvvFVm-bNHcc6Q2TQFY-O5eF=YamC=_2HZz0M@mail.gmail.com>

Sidebar automatically pulls from the google calendar, accessible via the
'weekly schedule' link. Add it to the calendar, and after a delay, it'll
show up

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> I created a story with the text of the wiki page and then fixed the meeting
> that was there. I'm not sure how to get it in the sidebar.
>
> Al
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Thu Mar 31 17:26:51 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:26:51 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Make:SF Meeting next Tuesday
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxmW7JTcVPYF+B8BNgBPhzYKHVmud4+BiVaWyo@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,

I need details of your projects, including photographs, as soon as
possible so I can turn them into a presentation for Ace Monster Toys.
We're the featured guest of Make:SF next Tuesday and we want to make a
great impression and show off all the cool things people can build in
our space so we can get enough members to keep it growing.

Please get me photographs of projects, including build and finished
photos if available, and a few details about what it is/does/should be
doing.

If you've done anything in the space, made widgets for the makerbots,
made furniture, worked on the SAN, or anything else, please let me
know as much as possible so I can wow and entice everyone next week.

Also, if someone could make an empassioned plea for this on my behalf
at the meeting tonight, I'd appreciate it.

--
Heph