From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun May  1 09:18:32 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 09:18:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Plug computer for door is dead
Message-ID: <FB45437B-2717-43E3-8DA9-83CEA23FEAE2@openbuddha.com>

The plug computer for the door is dead so the door is offline until we plug in a netbook or otherwise fix it.

Al



From me at robbiet.us  Sun May  1 10:01:39 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:01:39 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Who's coming today?
Message-ID: <35E1768285584083854FB220CE102DF7@gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

Friendly reminder, Work party starts at 12 on the dot! I am going to try my best to get there before 12. I am hoping others show up or I will be teh sad. Also, if someone could give me a ride from Ashby BART and possibly but most likely back to Ashby BART/My apartment, that would be excellent!

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
925-884-3728 
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From louise.s.fox at gmail.com  Sun May  1 11:22:12 2011
From: louise.s.fox at gmail.com (Louise Fox)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 11:22:12 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Who's coming today?
In-Reply-To: <35E1768285584083854FB220CE102DF7@gmail.com>
References: <35E1768285584083854FB220CE102DF7@gmail.com>
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I'll be there at 12:30-1pm!

-louise

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

>  Hey everyone,
>
> Friendly reminder, Work party starts at 12 on the dot! I am going to try my
> best to get there before 12. I am hoping others show up or I will be teh
> sad. Also, if someone could give me a ride from Ashby BART and possibly but
> most likely back to Ashby BART/My apartment, that would be excellent!
>
> --
> Robbie Trencheny
> 925-884-3728
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


-- 
Louise Fox
Mechanical Engineer
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun May  1 11:31:22 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 11:31:22 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Who's coming today?
In-Reply-To: <35E1768285584083854FB220CE102DF7@gmail.com>
References: <35E1768285584083854FB220CE102DF7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F7D20181-F8BF-444B-8704-70F824AE712C@openbuddha.com>

I'm not feeling well so I may or may not make it. Myles and I worked on the bookscanner for five hours or so yesterday.

Al



On May 1, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> 
> Friendly reminder, Work party starts at 12 on the dot! I am going to try my best to get there before 12. I am hoping others show up or I will be teh sad. Also, if someone could give me a ride from Ashby BART and possibly but most likely back to Ashby BART/My apartment, that would be excellent!
> 
> -- 
> Robbie Trencheny
> 925-884-3728
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From me at robbiet.us  Sun May  1 13:53:50 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:53:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Reminder!
Message-ID: <9BAD2C2DDC13417C8FDA92D457D21E10@gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

There are 5 or so people at the space right now, come on down! We will be here for a few hours more most likely

-- 
Robbie Trencheny

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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun May  1 16:24:02 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 16:24:02 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Makerbot Alice back in space and electronics remounted
Message-ID: <98F758B9-4798-4B25-AA87-EF263B5EC402@openbuddha.com>

Makerbot Alice with the mk6 plastruder and hacked electronics is back in the space.

At David's suggestion, I remounted the main controller board, turning it. The net result of this is that I made room to mount the controller board for the mk6 plastruder (which had been hanging by a cacle) and made it so the SD card slot is facing to the left side, instead of up into another board. This should, hopefully, keep someone from breaking the SD card slot again.

I also took the x-carriage partially apart to tighten belts but I fear that I was less successful there. We'll see if it makes a difference.

Pic of new mounting is at http://www.flickr.com/photos/albill/5677258651/.

Al



From drorex at gmail.com  Sun May  1 16:55:47 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 16:55:47 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Makerbot Alice back in space and electronics remounted
Message-ID: <BANLkTincbQMQh3sRq5wQsYw1w=wkv8EuQw@mail.gmail.com>

I tested it very briefly, but it still has quality issues on both the X and
Y axes. Just try moving them by hand: on x, it feels a little harder to move
than it should. In operation, this translates to some shuddering during X
moves. The y axis belt actually appears to skip when you move it. The wheel
on the y motor seems to be lopsided somehow maybe?

Anyway the upshot is it needs more tinkering before you can print with
decent quality. Needs someone who knows more than me to poke at it.
On May 1, 2011 4:24 PM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sun May  1 17:02:49 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:02:49 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Plug computer for door is not dead
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=qkiPo7c_V03ioGTEp2b4kU+4ziw@mail.gmail.com>

I hacked a replacement power supply into place (the original one exploded
its capacitors all over) and it's working fine now.
On May 1, 2011 9:18 AM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> The plug computer for the door is dead so the door is offline until we
plug in a netbook or otherwise fix it.
>
> Al
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun May  1 17:07:28 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:07:28 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Plug computer for door is not dead
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=qkiPo7c_V03ioGTEp2b4kU+4ziw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=qkiPo7c_V03ioGTEp2b4kU+4ziw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C0FA08C5-B749-47FC-B34D-69E54F9DB6CE@openbuddha.com>


Thanks, David!


On May 1, 2011, at 5:02 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> I hacked a replacement power supply into place (the original one exploded its capacitors all over) and it's working fine now.
> 
> On May 1, 2011 9:18 AM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> > The plug computer for the door is dead so the door is offline until we plug in a netbook or otherwise fix it.
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From myles at tenhand.com  Mon May  2 12:02:11 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 12:02:11 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Ace monster toys book scanner, alpha 1
In-Reply-To: <1F59577B-492B-411F-95AE-8323B45D430F@tenhand.com>
References: <1F59577B-492B-411F-95AE-8323B45D430F@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <EAB19B61-6DE0-4B08-B94B-457EBBA94CE3@tenhand.com>

(Moderator, please ignore previous post with overlarge attachments). 


I've just placed the latest inkscape & eps file at http://www.tenhand.com/bscanner/

I think this is the final design. I don't know how many bugs remain. I made a lot of changes to cut out 10 minutes of cutter time. Whether all the angles still work is a question. 
I may try to do a ponoko run on this week. 

Al & I did a bunch of fussing with the lifting arms yesterday.  We're done with using any sort of pipe for the front to back lifting arms. It's just too much work to get good holes. 1x1 hardwood strips works just as well. To connect them (the right to left part), we're using 5/16 threaded rod. 

This version has a new innovation for the tower that holds the threaded rod up in the air.. There's a long spacer that should be as wide as the platen. Into this spacer we slot a vertical bit of wood  that is braced with a diagonal. In front of that vertical bit we place a second cutout that holds a skate bearing. (this is the one with a tooth on the far right hand side of the design). This should create a fairly rigid way of holding the rod with known good 90 degree angles. Now you stuff some length of appropriately sized lumber into the two corners, so that you can screw the vertical, brace & spreader into the lumber. you don't need to worry about making a square edge on this side. This lumber can then be attached to the platform using the pyramidal  braces. (If you can think of better part descriptions, I'd love to know so we can engrave them). 

For making kits, we just have to whack out 9 inch sections of 2x2 with good edges, drill 3 holes in the 1x1s, and cut the threaded rod to length.
Camera stands will be the home depot parts list I posted to the forum, using a pipe flange. 

For the base, I'm wondering if we can get away with a russian cross of 2x4s. This could be wing-nutted together to make a collapsable platform. As is, we'll leave that up to the end user, and suggest plywood. 

The ponoko price for cutting this design is about $77( $21 for 1/4 birch & $57.20 aka 29 minutes of burning). Using ponoko's $40 prime "discount", that drops to $39 of cutting, and $30 when the lab cutter is online

Best case,  this makes the scanner  $85 once we throw in the rod, dowel, shipping & about $10 for the lab. 

No matter what, I think it's too rich for me to build a bunch before makerfaire. We could probably build a couple & take pre-orders at the faire. 






From zamfire at gmail.com  Mon May  2 13:21:44 2011
From: zamfire at gmail.com (J.D. Zamfirescu)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:21:44 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Workshops at AMT the weekend after Maker Faire?
Message-ID: <BANLkTikinPRPZrUkmJCJ0=eO0mXnaFRZHg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Aces,

Is there any interest in running a workshop at AMT the weekend after Maker
Faire (May 28-29), as part of Workshop Weekend? We're looking for more
hackerspaces/makerspaces to run workshops, and it would be a great way to
get more people to visit AMT.

It looks like you guys already have a "general all hands work day" scheduled
for Sunday, May 29. Perhaps a workshop could follow?

Anyway, if anyone is interested, let me know. The website for the event is
whatwillyoulearn.com (and there's a faq for teachers at
whatwillyoulearn.com/teach/faq )

We have some interest from teachers who don't have their own space, so if
there's interest in having AMT be a part of workshop weekend but there isn't
enough interest in teaching workshops, we could probably arrange for some
external teachers to run workshops.

Thoughts? Ideas? Complaints?

Thanks!

J.D.
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May  2 13:36:06 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:36:06 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Workshops at AMT the weekend after Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikinPRPZrUkmJCJ0=eO0mXnaFRZHg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTikinPRPZrUkmJCJ0=eO0mXnaFRZHg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1C1EA53C-A173-4E2C-AF10-D2410F9EB12E@openbuddha.com>

I'm not sure if we have anyone wanting to run a specific workshop that weekend. That said, we are open to having third parties do workshops at our space.

If anyone from the group is interested in running a workshop that Sunday, they should speak up as I could be wrong (easily).

Al

On May 2, 2011, at 1:21 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote:

> Hi Aces,
> 
> Is there any interest in running a workshop at AMT the weekend after Maker Faire (May 28-29), as part of Workshop Weekend? We're looking for more hackerspaces/makerspaces to run workshops, and it would be a great way to get more people to visit AMT.
> 
> It looks like you guys already have a "general all hands work day" scheduled for Sunday, May 29. Perhaps a workshop could follow?
> 
> Anyway, if anyone is interested, let me know. The website for the event is whatwillyoulearn.com (and there's a faq for teachers at whatwillyoulearn.com/teach/faq )
> 
> We have some interest from teachers who don't have their own space, so if there's interest in having AMT be a part of workshop weekend but there isn't enough interest in teaching workshops, we could probably arrange for some external teachers to run workshops.
> 
> Thoughts? Ideas? Complaints?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> J.D.
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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From zamfire at gmail.com  Mon May  2 14:33:49 2011
From: zamfire at gmail.com (J.D. Zamfirescu)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:33:49 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Workshops at AMT the weekend after Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <1C1EA53C-A173-4E2C-AF10-D2410F9EB12E@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTikinPRPZrUkmJCJ0=eO0mXnaFRZHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1C1EA53C-A173-4E2C-AF10-D2410F9EB12E@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimuowWjd91iUOVKOZXiQ0J8hoY+7g@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I'm not sure if we have anyone wanting to run a specific workshop that
> weekend.
>
If anyone from the group is interested in running a workshop that Sunday,
> they should speak up as I could be wrong (easily).


Just to clarify: I suggested Sunday because there was already another AMT
event that day, but you could run a workshop on Saturday too!


> That said, we are open to having third parties do workshops at our space.
>

That'd be great! Is there a process for making that happen?

On our end, we would add "Ace Monster Toys" as a potential location for
teachers to choose when they sign up. Naturally, we'd clear any classes with
you guys before listing them to the public. On that note, anything we should
know? Any restrictions, such as "free classes only", or maximum capacities?

Let me know if there are any questions! It'd be great to have another easy
bay space to offer potential teachers.

J.D.




>
> Al
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 1:21 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote:
>
> Hi Aces,
>
> Is there any interest in running a workshop at AMT the weekend after Maker
> Faire (May 28-29), as part of Workshop Weekend? We're looking for more
> hackerspaces/makerspaces to run workshops, and it would be a great way to
> get more people to visit AMT.
>
> It looks like you guys already have a "general all hands work day"
> scheduled for Sunday, May 29. Perhaps a workshop could follow?
>
> Anyway, if anyone is interested, let me know. The website for the event is
> whatwillyoulearn.com (and there's a faq for teachers at
> whatwillyoulearn.com/teach/faq )
>
> We have some interest from teachers who don't have their own space, so if
> there's interest in having AMT be a part of workshop weekend but there isn't
> enough interest in teaching workshops, we could probably arrange for some
> external teachers to run workshops.
>
> Thoughts? Ideas? Complaints?
>
> Thanks!
>
> J.D.
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May  2 14:40:39 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:40:39 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Workshops at AMT the weekend after Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimuowWjd91iUOVKOZXiQ0J8hoY+7g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTikinPRPZrUkmJCJ0=eO0mXnaFRZHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1C1EA53C-A173-4E2C-AF10-D2410F9EB12E@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTimuowWjd91iUOVKOZXiQ0J8hoY+7g@mail.gmail.com>
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On May 2, 2011, at 2:33 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote:

> I'm not sure if we have anyone wanting to run a specific workshop that weekend.
> If anyone from the group is interested in running a workshop that Sunday, they should speak up as I could be wrong (easily).
> 
> Just to clarify: I suggested Sunday because there was already another AMT event that day, but you could run a workshop on Saturday too!

 Yes, that is understood.
 
> That said, we are open to having third parties do workshops at our space.
>  
> That'd be great! Is there a process for making that happen?

 Well, since I'm president at the moment, the process is probably to talk to me and I'll run it by the other officers and/or board if necessary. As long as it is something within the general purview of maker culture or education in making things, I doubt that there will be an issue. It is more of a question of whether we'll have room and/or specific tools for what your teachers want to do.

> On our end, we would add "Ace Monster Toys" as a potential location for teachers to choose when they sign up. Naturally, we'd clear any classes with you guys before listing them to the public. On that note, anything we should know? Any restrictions, such as "free classes only", or maximum capacities?
> 
> Let me know if there are any questions! It'd be great to have another easy bay space to offer potential teachers.

 We prefer free classes or classes where the fees cover materials (which we have done before). We're a nonprofit corporation and prefer to have events as open to the public as possible and fees are a barrier for many. We're open to discussion.

 We have a 1,600 sq ft space but it is divided into 800 sq feet upstairs and the same down. The downstairs is divided into half for a woodshop, which is functional, and a metalshop very much in the beginning stages of development. Classes will probably go in the upstairs, where people can sit and talk and where we have whiteboards. For that, we probably have a 20 person capacity. Downstairs, with all of the tools and tables, is likely to get a bit more cramped. 

 Anyone potentially interested in teaching should probably talk to us directly and maybe come by the space when someone is there to look around and see if it will fit.

 Al


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From zamfire at gmail.com  Mon May  2 14:59:09 2011
From: zamfire at gmail.com (J.D. Zamfirescu)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:59:09 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Workshops at AMT the weekend after Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <FEFF5B89-CEAE-4669-83F5-D727F6109E46@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTikinPRPZrUkmJCJ0=eO0mXnaFRZHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1C1EA53C-A173-4E2C-AF10-D2410F9EB12E@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTimuowWjd91iUOVKOZXiQ0J8hoY+7g@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Well, since I'm president at the moment, the process is probably to talk to
> me and I'll run it by the other officers and/or board if necessary. As long
> as it is something within the general purview of maker culture or education
> in making things, I doubt that there will be an issue. It is more of a
> question of whether we'll have room and/or specific tools for what your
> teachers want to do.
>

Got it. It doesn't seem that most teachers will require much in the way of
outside tools, but we've just begun recruiting teachers and we're not 100%
sure yet what the needs will be.

All workshops will definitely be within the general purview of maker culture
and education in making things. The goal of Workshop Weekend is exactly to
get people more involved in making things!

We prefer free classes or classes where the fees cover materials (which we
> have done before). We're a nonprofit corporation and prefer to have events
> as open to the public as possible and fees are a barrier for many. We're
> open to discussion.
>
>  We have a 1,600 sq ft space but it is divided into 800 sq feet upstairs
> and the same down. The downstairs is divided into half for a woodshop, which
> is functional, and a metalshop very much in the beginning stages of
> development. Classes will probably go in the upstairs, where people can sit
> and talk and where we have whiteboards. For that, we probably have a 20
> person capacity. Downstairs, with all of the tools and tables, is likely to
> get a bit more cramped.
>
>  Anyone potentially interested in teaching should probably talk to us
> directly and maybe come by the space when someone is there to look around
> and see if it will fit.
>

Thanks for sharing details of your space, 20 people sounds about right for
the kinds of workshops we're targeting.

How about this: we list Ace Monster Toys as a potential location for
teachers, and indicate that tuition-free classes are preferred there (and
that materials fees are ok). Then, if anyone registers with a preference to
run a workshop at Ace Monster Toys, we'll instruct them to contact you to
see the space / get approval / etc. There's no obligation for you to approve
any class, and if it doesn't work out, we'll just try to find them another
space.

Does that sound reasonable?

J.D.
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May  2 15:12:09 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:12:09 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Workshops at AMT the weekend after Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimDf10CG+sdmcfOQGgAihVvOvcOEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTikinPRPZrUkmJCJ0=eO0mXnaFRZHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1C1EA53C-A173-4E2C-AF10-D2410F9EB12E@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTimuowWjd91iUOVKOZXiQ0J8hoY+7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<FEFF5B89-CEAE-4669-83F5-D727F6109E46@openbuddha.com>
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Message-ID: <B16EE901-3D1F-476B-91DC-B97F10431646@openbuddha.com>

Hi,

 I think that sounds perfectly reasonable.

Al

On May 2, 2011, at 2:59 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote:

> How about this: we list Ace Monster Toys as a potential location for teachers, and indicate that tuition-free classes are preferred there (and that materials fees are ok). Then, if anyone registers with a preference to run a workshop at Ace Monster Toys, we'll instruct them to contact you to see the space / get approval / etc. There's no obligation for you to approve any class, and if it doesn't work out, we'll just try to find them another space.
> 
> Does that sound reasonable?



From zamfire at gmail.com  Mon May  2 15:14:50 2011
From: zamfire at gmail.com (J.D. Zamfirescu)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 15:14:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Workshops at AMT the weekend after Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <B16EE901-3D1F-476B-91DC-B97F10431646@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTikinPRPZrUkmJCJ0=eO0mXnaFRZHg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1C1EA53C-A173-4E2C-AF10-D2410F9EB12E@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTimuowWjd91iUOVKOZXiQ0J8hoY+7g@mail.gmail.com>
	<FEFF5B89-CEAE-4669-83F5-D727F6109E46@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTimDf10CG+sdmcfOQGgAihVvOvcOEQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<B16EE901-3D1F-476B-91DC-B97F10431646@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimc5U3ft9BvL5CGtEn7rCJgXz=NWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Al,

Excellent! I will add Ace Monster Toys to our list, and will be in touch if
anyone signs up.

And if any AMT members want to teach, they shouldn't hesitate to sign up
too!

J.D.


On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
>  I think that sounds perfectly reasonable.
>
> Al
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 2:59 PM, J.D. Zamfirescu wrote:
>
> > How about this: we list Ace Monster Toys as a potential location for
> teachers, and indicate that tuition-free classes are preferred there (and
> that materials fees are ok). Then, if anyone registers with a preference to
> run a workshop at Ace Monster Toys, we'll instruct them to contact you to
> see the space / get approval / etc. There's no obligation for you to approve
> any class, and if it doesn't work out, we'll just try to find them another
> space.
> >
> > Does that sound reasonable?
>
>
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From chriszf at gmail.com  Tue May  3 07:04:53 2011
From: chriszf at gmail.com (Christian Fernandez)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 07:04:53 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Python class tomorrow?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTim9Sg6+4AsPTR+JOW-=+_uanCB0Xg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTim9Sg6+4AsPTR+JOW-=+_uanCB0Xg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinM4VLSCkOWKQ9PDLyCcvUPyK9fQA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,

I'm back and python is on tonight, Tuesday, May the thirdish. I might even
have a lesson idea for tonight (but I might also not, you'll just have to
chance it). I will definitely have a big jar of chocolate covered toffee
macadamia nuts though, so there's that. See you there!

--
Christian
On May 2, 2011 3:44 PM, "Iris Cheung" <hycheung at lbl.gov> wrote:
> Hey Chris,
>
> Hope you had a great vacation. No pressure at all, but just wondering if
> the Python class will resume this week or the next?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Iris
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From me at robbiet.us  Tue May  3 21:08:13 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:08:13 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Servers
Message-ID: <876E042333CD4CE19A0362B68ADA7670@gmail.com>

Hello fellow Monsters!

SuperQ noticed something interesting today on a010:
[19:13:03] <SuperQ> May 3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.526161] ECC/ChipKill ECC error.

[19:13:03] <SuperQ> May 3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.541169] EDAC amd64 MC0: CE ERROR_ADDRESS= 0x10cb390

[19:13:06] <SuperQ> May 3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.556072] EDAC MC0: CE page 0x10cb, offset 0x390, grain 0, syndrome 0x909b, row 3, channel 0, label "": amd64_edac

^ that right there is bad! We need to put the door/fan on the server closet this weekend! Who will be able to help? We need help! I will try my absolute best to be there this weekend but no promises!
We 


&
-- 
Robbie Trencheny

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From drorex at gmail.com  Tue May  3 21:10:35 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:10:35 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Servers
In-Reply-To: <876E042333CD4CE19A0362B68ADA7670@gmail.com>
References: <876E042333CD4CE19A0362B68ADA7670@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinARBQwBiCtDo2m-cei_w+m6kPMfw@mail.gmail.com>

Does a010 actually provide any services used by any AMT members? I suggest
the double door installation for the incoming laser cutter is more pressing
than the server closet door installation.

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

>  Hello fellow Monsters!
>
> SuperQ noticed something interesting today on a010:
>
> [19:13:03] <SuperQ> May  3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.526161]
> ECC/ChipKill ECC error.
>
> [19:13:03] <SuperQ> May  3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.541169] EDAC
> amd64 MC0: CE ERROR_ADDRESS= 0x10cb390
>
> [19:13:06] <SuperQ> May  3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.556072] EDAC MC0:
> CE page 0x10cb, offset 0x390, grain 0, syndrome 0x909b, row 3, channel 0,
> label "": amd64_edac
>
> ^ that right there is bad! We need to put the door/fan on the server closet
> this weekend! Who will be able to help? We need help! I will try my absolute
> best to be there this weekend but no promises!
> We
> &
> --
> Robbie Trencheny
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
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From me at robbiet.us  Tue May  3 21:13:02 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:13:02 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Servers
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinARBQwBiCtDo2m-cei_w+m6kPMfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <876E042333CD4CE19A0362B68ADA7670@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinARBQwBiCtDo2m-cei_w+m6kPMfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <162170677CB14491BC43633B86991ED0@gmail.com>

The servers could very well become damaged beyond use if we don't put a door on soon because of the sawdust. We don't get the laser cutter for another 3 weeks or so. I really don't want to have to scrap a rack full of good servers simply because we didn't want to put a door on sooner rather then later.

-- 
Robbie Trencheny

On Tuesday, May 3, 2011 at 9:10 PM, David Rorex wrote: 
> Does a010 actually provide any services used by any AMT members? I suggest the double door installation for the incoming laser cutter is more pressing than the server closet door installation.
> 
>  On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> > Hello fellow Monsters!
> > 
> > SuperQ noticed something interesting today on a010:
> > [19:13:03] <SuperQ> May 3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.526161] ECC/ChipKill ECC error.
> > 
> > [19:13:03] <SuperQ> May 3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.541169] EDAC amd64 MC0: CE ERROR_ADDRESS= 0x10cb390
> > 
> > [19:13:06] <SuperQ> May 3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.556072] EDAC MC0: CE page 0x10cb, offset 0x390, grain 0, syndrome 0x909b, row 3, channel 0, label "": amd64_edac
> > 
> > ^ that right there is bad! We need to put the door/fan on the server closet this weekend! Who will be able to help? We need help! I will try my absolute best to be there this weekend but no promises! 
> > We 
> > 
> > 
> > &
> > -- 
> > Robbie Trencheny
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> >  Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > 
> 
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From romanian at gmail.com  Tue May  3 21:13:03 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 23:13:03 -0500
Subject: [AMTD] Servers
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinARBQwBiCtDo2m-cei_w+m6kPMfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <876E042333CD4CE19A0362B68ADA7670@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinARBQwBiCtDo2m-cei_w+m6kPMfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=a5Mj13f8E8cOcj5air9NDEyBt-g@mail.gmail.com>

i think we need the venting, not the door on the closet. that should
not be THAT complicated... as long as we dont have a bigger hole than
the tubing again :P



On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:10 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does a010 actually provide any services used by any AMT members? I suggest
> the double door installation for the incoming laser cutter is more pressing
> than the server closet door installation.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
>>
>> Hello fellow Monsters!
>> SuperQ noticed something interesting today on a010:
>>
>> [19:13:03]?<SuperQ>?May ?3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.526161]
>> ECC/ChipKill ECC error.
>>
>> [19:13:03]?<SuperQ>?May ?3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.541169] EDAC
>> amd64 MC0: CE ERROR_ADDRESS= 0x10cb390
>>
>> [19:13:06]?<SuperQ>?May ?3 19:12:21 a010 kernel: [363817.556072] EDAC MC0:
>> CE page 0x10cb, offset 0x390, grain 0, syndrome 0x909b, row 3, channel 0,
>> label "": amd64_edac
>>
>> ^ that right there is bad! We need to put the door/fan on the server
>> closet this weekend! Who will be able to help? We need help! I will try my
>> absolute best to be there this weekend but no promises!
>> We
>> &
>> --
>> Robbie Trencheny
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


From myles at tenhand.com  Tue May  3 21:15:11 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:15:11 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Strange request
Message-ID: <80726076-D6CD-47F1-9268-8424F9FF9FA4@tenhand.com>

 
I need empty CD/DVD spindles & the plastic beehives that cover them. Ideally ones that can hold 50+ CDs. If you've got them, please let me know. 

From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May  3 21:26:21 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:26:21 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Servers
In-Reply-To: <162170677CB14491BC43633B86991ED0@gmail.com>
References: <876E042333CD4CE19A0362B68ADA7670@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinARBQwBiCtDo2m-cei_w+m6kPMfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<162170677CB14491BC43633B86991ED0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F617F555-21F6-4FD4-98CF-8324CDA5DF2C@openbuddha.com>

In the short term, why not turn them off?

On May 3, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:

> The servers could very well become damaged beyond use if we don't put a door on soon because of the sawdust. We don't get the laser cutter for another 3 weeks or so. I really don't want to have to scrap a rack full of good servers simply because we didn't want to put a door on sooner rather then later.



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May  3 22:44:15 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 22:44:15 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] RAMPS boxes
Message-ID: <A5D6B9CB-5308-4261-B8E1-8293AED08E80@openbuddha.com>

We should print out a few of these for the RAMPS electronics for the Prusa Mendels.

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7340

Al



From slick at rebelbase.com  Wed May  4 01:01:02 2011
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 01:01:02 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
Message-ID: <BANLkTinfdSb8nY7BLerR0txZYfBO=igQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>

So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.  It
will be extra super delicious come Thursday.  Can we get a head count for
folks showing up on Thursday?  Also that was a shiny few coins so donations
would be appreciated.  We are planing on bring in the whole rig so folks can
get a good look.  Also folks might want to bring beverages.

-Aaron
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From romanian at gmail.com  Wed May  4 08:07:42 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:07:42 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinfdSb8nY7BLerR0txZYfBO=igQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinfdSb8nY7BLerR0txZYfBO=igQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4219D382-D9F5-431F-8C8A-DDD1C3340621@gmail.com>

I'm down for some vacuumed meat! Count me as two :)
Well, Joe, the blacksmith may be visiting too, so that's why...... Right.

Speaking of vacuuming, what do you use as a vacuum sealer?

On May 4, 2011, at 1:01 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:

> So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.  It will be extra super delicious come Thursday.  Can we get a head count for folks showing up on Thursday?  Also that was a shiny few coins so donations would be appreciated.  We are planing on bring in the whole rig so folks can get a good look.  Also folks might want to bring beverages.
> 
> -Aaron 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From slick at rebelbase.com  Wed May  4 09:16:13 2011
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:16:13 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
In-Reply-To: <4219D382-D9F5-431F-8C8A-DDD1C3340621@gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinfdSb8nY7BLerR0txZYfBO=igQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4219D382-D9F5-431F-8C8A-DDD1C3340621@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=8kgt54pDfcLC4NJgr2zoS=KAoKw@mail.gmail.com>

This time we used Ziplock vacuum bags.
http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Ziploc-Vacuum-Pump-Storage/dp/B001DRNESE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1304524913&sr=8-1

I usually use a Food Saver brand vacuum sealer, but in the past I've also
just used a regular Ziplock bag with the air squeezed out. It turns out that
the vacuum isn't super critical.  You want to get out as much air as
possible so that there is no air insulating the meat from the hot water, but
a true vacuum is not strictly necessary. Even so, one day I want to get a
chamber vacuum sealer just because they are neat and you can do cool stuff
with them.


On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm down for some vacuumed meat! Count me as two :)
> Well, Joe, the blacksmith may be visiting too, so that's why...... Right.
>
> Speaking of vacuuming, what do you use as a vacuum sealer?
>
> On May 4, 2011, at 1:01 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>
> > So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.  It
> will be extra super delicious come Thursday.  Can we get a head count for
> folks showing up on Thursday?  Also that was a shiny few coins so donations
> would be appreciated.  We are planing on bring in the whole rig so folks can
> get a good look.  Also folks might want to bring beverages.
> >
> > -Aaron
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Wed May  4 09:34:32 2011
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:34:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Strange request
In-Reply-To: <80726076-D6CD-47F1-9268-8424F9FF9FA4@tenhand.com>
References: <80726076-D6CD-47F1-9268-8424F9FF9FA4@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <4DC18018.7040300@gmail.com>

I'll bet SCRAP or the east bay creative reuse depot has things like this

On 05/03/2011 09:15 PM, myles wrote:
>
> I need empty CD/DVD spindles&  the plastic beehives that cover them. Ideally ones that can hold 50+ CDs. If you've got them, please let me know.
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>

-- 
Michael Shiloh
KA6RCQ
www.teachmetomake.com
teachmetomake.wordpress.com
Interested in classes? Join http://groups.google.com/group/teach-me-to-make


From albill at openbuddha.com  Wed May  4 11:26:52 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:26:52 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Cards and Flyers for Maker Faire
Message-ID: <44C6E5B2-9A72-4A2F-8526-5EBFC621F0E0@openbuddha.com>

Does anyone have any specific ideas on flyers and 3x5 cards to hand out at Maker Faire for AMT?

Al



From slick at rebelbase.com  Wed May  4 11:47:10 2011
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:47:10 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=8kgt54pDfcLC4NJgr2zoS=KAoKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinfdSb8nY7BLerR0txZYfBO=igQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4219D382-D9F5-431F-8C8A-DDD1C3340621@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=8kgt54pDfcLC4NJgr2zoS=KAoKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=STf+wAt_3c1LrDB058qstAR9OKw@mail.gmail.com>

I put up a short wiki-post on general sous vide stuff, I'll fill in more
later.

http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Sous_Vide_Cooking

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:

> This time we used Ziplock vacuum bags.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Ziploc-Vacuum-Pump-Storage/dp/B001DRNESE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1304524913&sr=8-1
>
> I usually use a Food Saver brand vacuum sealer, but in the past I've also
> just used a regular Ziplock bag with the air squeezed out. It turns out that
> the vacuum isn't super critical.  You want to get out as much air as
> possible so that there is no air insulating the meat from the hot water, but
> a true vacuum is not strictly necessary. Even so, one day I want to get a
> chamber vacuum sealer just because they are neat and you can do cool stuff
> with them.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm down for some vacuumed meat! Count me as two :)
>> Well, Joe, the blacksmith may be visiting too, so that's why...... Right.
>>
>> Speaking of vacuuming, what do you use as a vacuum sealer?
>>
>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:01 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.  It
>> will be extra super delicious come Thursday.  Can we get a head count for
>> folks showing up on Thursday?  Also that was a shiny few coins so donations
>> would be appreciated.  We are planing on bring in the whole rig so folks can
>> get a good look.  Also folks might want to bring beverages.
>> >
>> > -Aaron
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Wed May  4 12:45:33 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:45:33 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Modular arduino thingie (Grove by Seeeeedstudio)
Message-ID: <BANLkTikqBtpOR4YYLzwx284PUe=KgjDGtA@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-starter-bundle-free-harness-included-p-709.html?cPath=138

It's basically an arduino shield with a bunch of connectors, so you can wire
up various devices without having to solder or fiddle with unreliable
solderless breadboards. The above kit comes with the shield and a bunch of
components to get started (you can buy the shield on its own though)

Search their site for 'twig' to get a list of every compatible sensor/device
they have:
http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=twig&x=0&y=0&search_in_description=0

Mike was asking about this before, but I'm sending to the list because I
think it might be of general interest.
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From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Wed May  4 12:48:32 2011
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:48:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Modular arduino thingie (Grove by Seeeeedstudio)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikqBtpOR4YYLzwx284PUe=KgjDGtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTikqBtpOR4YYLzwx284PUe=KgjDGtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DC1AD90.4010309@gmail.com>

I have a set which I'd be happy to show or loan for a short while.

Speaking of, I'll be showing a couple of guys from Seeed around Monday 
after Maker Faire. I've never been to AMTD and I'm mostly a lurker on 
this list, but if it's OK, and if someone is there to show us around, 
I'd love to bring them to AMTD as well.

M

On 05/04/2011 12:45 PM, David Rorex wrote:
> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-starter-bundle-free-harness-included-p-709.html?cPath=138
>
> It's basically an arduino shield with a bunch of connectors, so you can
> wire up various devices without having to solder or fiddle with
> unreliable solderless breadboards. The above kit comes with the shield
> and a bunch of components to get started (you can buy the shield on its
> own though)
>
> Search their site for 'twig' to get a list of every compatible
> sensor/device they have:
> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=twig&x=0&y=0&search_in_description=0
> <http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=twig&x=0&y=0&search_in_description=0>
>
> Mike was asking about this before, but I'm sending to the list because I
> think it might be of general interest.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Michael Shiloh
KA6RCQ
www.teachmetomake.com
teachmetomake.wordpress.com
Interested in classes? Join http://groups.google.com/group/teach-me-to-make


From albill at openbuddha.com  Wed May  4 13:36:15 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 13:36:15 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Modular arduino thingie (Grove by Seeeeedstudio)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikqBtpOR4YYLzwx284PUe=KgjDGtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTikqBtpOR4YYLzwx284PUe=KgjDGtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01B3805C-98DC-43AE-BA0B-4E98B2C12DE5@openbuddha.com>

I'm interested.



On May 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/grove-starter-bundle-free-harness-included-p-709.html?cPath=138
> 
> It's basically an arduino shield with a bunch of connectors, so you can wire up various devices without having to solder or fiddle with unreliable solderless breadboards. The above kit comes with the shield and a bunch of components to get started (you can buy the shield on its own though)
> 
> Search their site for 'twig' to get a list of every compatible sensor/device they have:
> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=twig&x=0&y=0&search_in_description=0
> 
> Mike was asking about this before, but I'm sending to the list because I think it might be of general interest.
> _______________________________________________
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From costamouratidis at hotmail.com  Wed May  4 14:58:27 2011
From: costamouratidis at hotmail.com (Costa Mouratidis)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:58:27 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Any interest in a reverse engineering class/workshop?
Message-ID: <SNT142-w23074DD8376128515E7D79A2810@phx.gbl>


Inspired by Christian's excellent python class and delicious macadamia nuts I'm wondering if anyone at AMT would be interested in coming out to learn/chat about reversing and related topics such as x86 ASM, debugging, (h|cr|p)acking, malware, etc, and securing your software and protocols from such.
Possible names for this momentous event include: Hack 'n Snack, Reverse 'n Converse
Let me know if you are interested and I'll figure out a date and update the wiki if I actually get any replies.
cheerscosta

PS. Nothing illegal! That would be wrong.

 		 	   		  
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From dijjital at gmail.com  Wed May  4 15:01:10 2011
From: dijjital at gmail.com (Robb Pope)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:01:10 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Any interest in a reverse engineering class/workshop?
In-Reply-To: <SNT142-w23074DD8376128515E7D79A2810@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT142-w23074DD8376128515E7D79A2810@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinKfggo38Esb1iVGKtuy_pzMyoZpQ@mail.gmail.com>

hell yeah, that sounds interesting ;)

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Costa Mouratidis <
costamouratidis at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Inspired by Christian's excellent python class and delicious macadamia
> nuts I'm wondering if anyone at AMT would be interested in coming out to
> learn/chat about reversing and related topics such as x86 ASM, debugging,
> (h|cr|p)acking, malware, etc, and securing your software and protocols from
> such.
>
> Possible names for this momentous event include: Hack 'n Snack, Reverse 'n
> Converse
>
> Let me know if you are interested and I'll figure out a date and update the
> wiki if I actually get any replies.
>
> cheers
> costa
>
> PS. Nothing illegal! That would be wrong.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From me at robbiet.us  Wed May  4 18:15:04 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 18:15:04 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Maker Faire Participation agreement letter
In-Reply-To: <20110505011106.20283.42955@makedev.makezine.com>
References: <20110505011106.20283.42955@makedev.makezine.com>
Message-ID: <94A0D4FF1B5C4A0787EBA1333D825699@gmail.com>

Hello again Monsters!

I just received this communique from Maker Faire. Please read over the manual ASAP if you want and then look at the equipment list. If there is anything else we need, you MUST TELL ME WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. I will sign the agreement within the next 24 hours.

-- 
Robbie Trencheny

Forwarded message: 
> From: makers at makerfaire.com
> To: me at robbiet.us
> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 6:11:06 PM
> Subject: Maker Faire Participation agreement letter
> 
> 
> 
>  RE:Maker 5124: Building Monster Toys 
>  We are excited that you will be joining us for Maker Faire Bay Area 2011! 
>  The next step to confirm your attendance is to read the Maker Manual and accept your Maker Participation Agreement. The manual can be found at Maker Faire Bay Area 2011 Maker Manual. 
>  You have the following options: 
>  Electronically accept your agreement via the following link:  [ACCEPT] 
>  Print the agreement from your manual, sign and fax to 707-829-1154 
>  Print the agreement from your manual, scan and email to makers at makerfaire.com 
> 
>  Please disregard the request to electronically accept your Participation Agreement if you have already sent it to us via fax or email. 
>  Receipt of your Participation Agreement confirms that we can count on you to attend and your space will be reserved for your exhibit with the equipment you specified. 
> Request
> Confirmed
> 
>  Space 
>  10x10-S 
> 
>  Folding tables: 8ft x 30in 
>  01 
> 
>  Folding chairs 
>  02 
> 
>  Exposure 
>  indoor 
> 
>  Electrical: 110V-20A 
>  01 
> 
>  Credentials 
>  02 
> 
>  Wristbands 
>  02 
> 
>  Complimentary Tickets 
>  02 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You will be in Fiesta - Wing A in a shared Hackerspace. 
>  Please provide a list of names of your team members working a minimum of 4 hours at your exhibit on the Maker/Assistant Check-in List. We will do our best to accommodate reasonable team member requests made in advance. The deadline to submit names is May 11th. Also, please let us know your Estimated Arrival Time. 
>  Once we receive your Participation Agreement, we will send your final Confirmation Letter with details of what to expect upon your arrival. 
>  In the interim, please feel free to download and post or distribute the official Maker Faire materials found at http://makerfaire.com/bayarea/2011/poster/. 
>  Let us know if you have any questions or need for additional marketing material to distribute to your friends and family. 
>  See you soon! 
>  The Maker Faire Production Team 
>  Maker Faire Bay Area 2011 
> 
> 
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From chriszf at gmail.com  Thu May  5 10:27:25 2011
From: chriszf at gmail.com (Christian Fernandez)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:27:25 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinfdSb8nY7BLerR0txZYfBO=igQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinfdSb8nY7BLerR0txZYfBO=igQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimkYPvacnYFDeCiw744E80VFgW8nw@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there. Also, I will likely have my girlfriend with me.

--
Christian

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:01 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
> So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.? It
> will be extra super delicious come Thursday.? Can we get a head count for
> folks showing up on Thursday?? Also that was a shiny few coins so donations
> would be appreciated.? We are planing on bring in the whole rig so folks can
> get a good look.? Also folks might want to bring beverages.
>
> -Aaron
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu May  5 10:28:50 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:28:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Any interest in a reverse engineering class/workshop?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinKfggo38Esb1iVGKtuy_pzMyoZpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT142-w23074DD8376128515E7D79A2810@phx.gbl>
	<BANLkTinKfggo38Esb1iVGKtuy_pzMyoZpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BB3993E3-A88E-4D45-AF2D-A8DEFC7C251A@openbuddha.com>

Yeah, that would be pretty cool.

Maybe I can find my old xbox (original).

On May 4, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Robb Pope wrote:

> hell yeah, that sounds interesting ;)
> 
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Costa Mouratidis <costamouratidis at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Inspired by Christian's excellent python class and delicious macadamia nuts I'm wondering if anyone at AMT would be interested in coming out to learn/chat about reversing and related topics such as x86 ASM, debugging, (h|cr|p)acking, malware, etc, and securing your software and protocols from such.
> 
> Possible names for this momentous event include: Hack 'n Snack, Reverse 'n Converse
> 
> Let me know if you are interested and I'll figure out a date and update the wiki if I actually get any replies.
> 
> cheers
> costa
> 
> PS. Nothing illegal! That would be wrong.

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From romanian at gmail.com  Thu May  5 12:01:51 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:01:51 -0500
Subject: [AMTD] Any interest in a reverse engineering class/workshop?
In-Reply-To: <SNT142-w23074DD8376128515E7D79A2810@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT142-w23074DD8376128515E7D79A2810@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=i2J1fS4tYaO=GFRVu3ckaFxVhAA@mail.gmail.com>

I think this could be very cool. I'm wondering how much one should know
before being able to understand... are there any pre-requisites?

I'm asking cause I'm a bioengineer, therefore I do not possess much software
expertise :)
On May 4, 2011 2:58 PM, "Costa Mouratidis" <costamouratidis at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Inspired by Christian's excellent python class and delicious macadamia
nuts I'm wondering if anyone at AMT would be interested in coming out to
learn/chat about reversing and related topics such as x86 ASM, debugging,
(h|cr|p)acking, malware, etc, and securing your software and protocols from
such.
> Possible names for this momentous event include: Hack 'n Snack, Reverse 'n
Converse
> Let me know if you are interested and I'll figure out a date and update
the wiki if I actually get any replies.
> cheerscosta
>
> PS. Nothing illegal! That would be wrong.
>
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From dijjital at gmail.com  Thu May  5 12:08:52 2011
From: dijjital at gmail.com (Robb Pope)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:08:52 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Any interest in a reverse engineering class/workshop?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=i2J1fS4tYaO=GFRVu3ckaFxVhAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT142-w23074DD8376128515E7D79A2810@phx.gbl>
	<BANLkTi=i2J1fS4tYaO=GFRVu3ckaFxVhAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=7kf_F4StPXQA3WZWH4U-sj5H0Xw@mail.gmail.com>

you must know the average airspeed velocity of an african swallow...

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this could be very cool. I'm wondering how much one should know
> before being able to understand... are there any pre-requisites?
>
> I'm asking cause I'm a bioengineer, therefore I do not possess much
> software expertise :)
> On May 4, 2011 2:58 PM, "Costa Mouratidis" <costamouratidis at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Inspired by Christian's excellent python class and delicious macadamia
> nuts I'm wondering if anyone at AMT would be interested in coming out to
> learn/chat about reversing and related topics such as x86 ASM, debugging,
> (h|cr|p)acking, malware, etc, and securing your software and protocols from
> such.
> > Possible names for this momentous event include: Hack 'n Snack, Reverse
> 'n Converse
> > Let me know if you are interested and I'll figure out a date and update
> the wiki if I actually get any replies.
> > cheerscosta
> >
> > PS. Nothing illegal! That would be wrong.
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From costamouratidis at hotmail.com  Thu May  5 14:21:37 2011
From: costamouratidis at hotmail.com (Costa Mouratidis)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:21:37 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Any interest in a reverse engineering class/workshop?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=i2J1fS4tYaO=GFRVu3ckaFxVhAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT142-w23074DD8376128515E7D79A2810@phx.gbl>,
	<BANLkTi=i2J1fS4tYaO=GFRVu3ckaFxVhAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT142-w404CD443196C0410FAD907A2800@phx.gbl>


No prereqs at all, but if you want to write your own ub3r l33t hacks you should have a windows build and some kind of compiler that can call the API (visual studio 6 is a good bet). You don't really have to know any programming to do basic things. Unfortunately I know less than nothing about non-windows operating systems but the theory of reversing is basically the same. I'm hoping someone can fill me in on some good mac debugging tools because the mac hack market is exploding right now.
It seems like some people are interested so I'll make a wiki entry and set a date. If you really want to attend email me and let me know what dates you can or can't do and I'll try to schedule around it. I'm thinking in 2 weeks or so? Also, if there are any specific topics you are interested in let me know and I'll try to do my homework.
cheerscosta

Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:01:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [AMTD] Any interest in a reverse engineering class/workshop?
From: romanian at gmail.com
To: costamouratidis at hotmail.com
CC: discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org

I think this could be very cool. I'm wondering how much one should know before being able to understand... are there any pre-requisites?
I'm asking cause I'm a bioengineer, therefore I do not possess much software expertise :)
On May 4, 2011 2:58 PM, "Costa Mouratidis" <costamouratidis at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Inspired by Christian's excellent python class and delicious macadamia nuts I'm wondering if anyone at AMT would be interested in coming out to learn/chat about reversing and related topics such as x86 ASM, debugging, (h|cr|p)acking, malware, etc, and securing your software and protocols from such.

> Possible names for this momentous event include: Hack 'n Snack, Reverse 'n Converse
> Let me know if you are interested and I'll figure out a date and update the wiki if I actually get any replies.

> cheerscosta
> 
> PS. Nothing illegal! That would be wrong.
> 
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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Fri May  6 08:14:59 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 08:14:59 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=STf+wAt_3c1LrDB058qstAR9OKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinfdSb8nY7BLerR0txZYfBO=igQ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4219D382-D9F5-431F-8C8A-DDD1C3340621@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=8kgt54pDfcLC4NJgr2zoS=KAoKw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=STf+wAt_3c1LrDB058qstAR9OKw@mail.gmail.com>
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Aaron & Terry,

Thank you so much for the demo and the awesome sandwiches last night.

Thanks,
Sean

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:

> I put up a short wiki-post on general sous vide stuff, I'll fill in more
> later.
>
> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Sous_Vide_Cooking
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>
>> This time we used Ziplock vacuum bags.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Ziploc-Vacuum-Pump-Storage/dp/B001DRNESE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1304524913&sr=8-1
>>
>> I usually use a Food Saver brand vacuum sealer, but in the past I've also
>> just used a regular Ziplock bag with the air squeezed out. It turns out that
>> the vacuum isn't super critical.  You want to get out as much air as
>> possible so that there is no air insulating the meat from the hot water, but
>> a true vacuum is not strictly necessary. Even so, one day I want to get a
>> chamber vacuum sealer just because they are neat and you can do cool stuff
>> with them.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm down for some vacuumed meat! Count me as two :)
>>> Well, Joe, the blacksmith may be visiting too, so that's why...... Right.
>>>
>>> Speaking of vacuuming, what do you use as a vacuum sealer?
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:01 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.
>>>  It will be extra super delicious come Thursday.  Can we get a head count
>>> for folks showing up on Thursday?  Also that was a shiny few coins so
>>> donations would be appreciated.  We are planing on bring in the whole rig so
>>> folks can get a good look.  Also folks might want to bring beverages.
>>> >
>>> > -Aaron
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Discuss mailing list
>>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Fri May  6 08:16:32 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 08:16:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Cards and Flyers for Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <44C6E5B2-9A72-4A2F-8526-5EBFC621F0E0@openbuddha.com>
References: <44C6E5B2-9A72-4A2F-8526-5EBFC621F0E0@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTima8HTHVSMVF7EK075Nk0VrO7kPbg@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to update the flyers we handed out at EB Mini Maker Faire in
October.  Any thoughts (question for all) on what we should include for
bullet points? What parts of Ace Monster Toys do you enjoy the most.  What
influences your decision to become a member?

Thanks,
Sean

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Does anyone have any specific ideas on flyers and 3x5 cards to hand out at
> Maker Faire for AMT?
>
> Al
>
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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Fri May  6 08:22:23 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 08:22:23 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire: Plan or Fail
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimmwZOvyBeNCHAQPL5y=dHFJC8wdw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4DB87CB7.4030207@openbuddha.com>
	<D544C756-DE46-4F7A-B77E-C1A6DAD53205@tenhand.com>
	<BANLkTimmwZOvyBeNCHAQPL5y=dHFJC8wdw@mail.gmail.com>
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With Maker Faire just around the corner and the likelihood that I will be
moving my family across town the week before Maker Faire, I need to either
get some help on the solar drag race idea or withdraw the suggestion.  Miles
has stepped up with some solar panel supplies and I'm more than willing to
make the track. But I don't think I'm going to have enough time to create
any car chassis.

Is there any additional interest on this or should I drop the idea?

Thanks,
Sean

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Sean O'Steen <sean at techmonkeydesign.com>wrote:

> I've put my name on the list as well as put a bullet point in about
> possibly running a LEGO solar drag race.
>
> THE IDEA:
> We create several solar cell blocks, several motors blocks & chassis that
> patrons can walk up to our booth to mix & match.  We run impromptu heats
> down the length of our table.  We would have an arduino controlled heat lamp
> array as well as timing lights to run the track. The track would be a simple
> slot car track with the heat lamps above. The lights, combined with
> screaching tire sound effects should attract lots of eyeballs.
>
> If we move on this, I'll need help with the lamp types that cast the best
> "solar light" for this task as well as sourcing for the hobby solar cells
> and dc motors. Myles???
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:21 PM, myles <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:
>
>> We need a workparty to bash hout some parts for the book scanners. I want
>> to build at least 10 scanners for sale, ideally 20. Excess will get sold via
>> the forum.
>> What weekend day would be good for 3-5 people to set up an assembly line&
>>  do documentation?
>> >
>> (wiki updated with subtasks, final design to be described at meeting this
>> thursday)
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Al Jigen Billings wrote:
>>
>> > So the Maker Faire is less than a month away.
>> >
>> > Other than having the Book Scanner there, I don't know what we're doing
>> (we need meeting notes to remind us...).
>> >
>> > We need to get on the stick in order not to be full of fail at the Maker
>> Faire.
>> >
>> > I'm planning on doing more work on it and being there and Robbie is
>> signed up to help.
>> >
>> > We need more help and a better plan on what we're doing.
>> >
>> > I've put a page up for this at
>> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/2011_Maker_Faire.
>> >
>> > Al
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May  6 09:09:49 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:09:49 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
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Did the bee keeping discussion happen as well?

On May 6, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Sean O'Steen wrote:

> Aaron & Terry,
> 
> Thank you so much for the demo and the awesome sandwiches last night.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sean
> 
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
> I put up a short wiki-post on general sous vide stuff, I'll fill in more later.
> 
> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Sous_Vide_Cooking
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
> This time we used Ziplock vacuum bags.
> http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Ziploc-Vacuum-Pump-Storage/dp/B001DRNESE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1304524913&sr=8-1
> 
> I usually use a Food Saver brand vacuum sealer, but in the past I've also just used a regular Ziplock bag with the air squeezed out. It turns out that the vacuum isn't super critical.  You want to get out as much air as possible so that there is no air insulating the meat from the hot water, but a true vacuum is not strictly necessary. Even so, one day I want to get a chamber vacuum sealer just because they are neat and you can do cool stuff with them.
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm down for some vacuumed meat! Count me as two :)
> Well, Joe, the blacksmith may be visiting too, so that's why...... Right.
> 
> Speaking of vacuuming, what do you use as a vacuum sealer?
> 
> On May 4, 2011, at 1:01 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
> 
> > So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.  It will be extra super delicious come Thursday.  Can we get a head count for folks showing up on Thursday?  Also that was a shiny few coins so donations would be appreciated.  We are planing on bring in the whole rig so folks can get a good look.  Also folks might want to bring beverages.
> >
> > -Aaron
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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> 
> 
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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Fri May  6 11:14:49 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
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Yes,

Jonathan Zammick gave a very thorough and thoughtful talk about bee keeping.
I've known him for a few years now and he never ceases to amaze me how deep
his research goes. Great talk!

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Did the bee keeping discussion happen as well?
>
> On May 6, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Sean O'Steen wrote:
>
> Aaron & Terry,
>
> Thank you so much for the demo and the awesome sandwiches last night.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>
>> I put up a short wiki-post on general sous vide stuff, I'll fill in more
>> later.
>>
>> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Sous_Vide_Cooking
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This time we used Ziplock vacuum bags.
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Ziploc-Vacuum-Pump-Storage/dp/B001DRNESE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1304524913&sr=8-1
>>>
>>> I usually use a Food Saver brand vacuum sealer, but in the past I've also
>>> just used a regular Ziplock bag with the air squeezed out. It turns out that
>>> the vacuum isn't super critical.  You want to get out as much air as
>>> possible so that there is no air insulating the meat from the hot water, but
>>> a true vacuum is not strictly necessary. Even so, one day I want to get a
>>> chamber vacuum sealer just because they are neat and you can do cool stuff
>>> with them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm down for some vacuumed meat! Count me as two :)
>>>> Well, Joe, the blacksmith may be visiting too, so that's why......
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of vacuuming, what do you use as a vacuum sealer?
>>>>
>>>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:01 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.
>>>>  It will be extra super delicious come Thursday.  Can we get a head count
>>>> for folks showing up on Thursday?  Also that was a shiny few coins so
>>>> donations would be appreciated.  We are planing on bring in the whole rig so
>>>> folks can get a good look.  Also folks might want to bring beverages.
>>>> >
>>>> > -Aaron
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > Discuss mailing list
>>>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
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From tewing at gmail.com  Fri May  6 11:56:25 2011
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:56:25 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Meat
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The Sous Vide discussion and feeding went well.  Next time I'll set the meat to a bit lower temp so the meat stays pink throughout.  Also, toasting the buns makes the whole sammitch taste much better.  Costa had some great ideas to make an off-grid solar sous vide machine.  I'll follow-up with him and see if I can build a prototype.

WIKI PAGE:  Aaron started a wiki page on Sous Vide cooking.  By next Thursday I'm going to add some more info to that page including a list of parts and links to some other DIY sous vide builds.  If anyone has questions or wants some specific info please send it to the list or alternately to me directly and I'll do my best to put it into the wiki.

WORKSHOP PROPOSAL:  Is anyone interested in a workshop where we each build a sous vide machine?  I can arrange a group buy of parts beforehand and we can each build a simple and cheap sous vide machine.  The cost would probably be near $90 per machine.   I'd probably schedule it for mid-june or sometime in July so I can have time to get a headcount and do the group buy.  

On May 6, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Sean O'Steen wrote:

> Yes,
> 
> Jonathan Zammick gave a very thorough and thoughtful talk about bee keeping. I've known him for a few years now and he never ceases to amaze me how deep his research goes. Great talk!
> 
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Did the bee keeping discussion happen as well?
> 
> On May 6, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Sean O'Steen wrote:
> 
>> Aaron & Terry,
>> 
>> Thank you so much for the demo and the awesome sandwiches last night.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> 
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>> I put up a short wiki-post on general sous vide stuff, I'll fill in more later.
>> 
>> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Sous_Vide_Cooking
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>> This time we used Ziplock vacuum bags.
>> http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Ziploc-Vacuum-Pump-Storage/dp/B001DRNESE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1304524913&sr=8-1
>> 
>> I usually use a Food Saver brand vacuum sealer, but in the past I've also just used a regular Ziplock bag with the air squeezed out. It turns out that the vacuum isn't super critical.  You want to get out as much air as possible so that there is no air insulating the meat from the hot water, but a true vacuum is not strictly necessary. Even so, one day I want to get a chamber vacuum sealer just because they are neat and you can do cool stuff with them.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm down for some vacuumed meat! Count me as two :)
>> Well, Joe, the blacksmith may be visiting too, so that's why...... Right.
>> 
>> Speaking of vacuuming, what do you use as a vacuum sealer?
>> 
>> On May 4, 2011, at 1:01 AM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > So Terry and I just put 16 lbs of tri tip into the sous-vide cooker.  It will be extra super delicious come Thursday.  Can we get a head count for folks showing up on Thursday?  Also that was a shiny few coins so donations would be appreciated.  We are planing on bring in the whole rig so folks can get a good look.  Also folks might want to bring beverages.
>> >
>> > -Aaron
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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> 
> 
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From me at robbiet.us  Sat May  7 21:27:24 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 21:27:24 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fw: Some news from me
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Hello Monsters!

So today, I finally made a decision. I am moving back with my parents shortly (within a few weeks) and then on to Virginia as of June 15th.

So a few things to talk about.
1. I am going to be resigning as secretary at a future meeting, perhaps next week.
2. I am desperately looking for work. If I can find work before like June 1, I can stay! I have applied places but no one has responded back. I am attaching my resume!
3. I will still be in #acemonstertoys always and am planning to move back within a few months/year tops.


Thank you everyone for the great times. I know my time here was short, but I think I made the absolute best I could of it. I will be around as much as possible up until June 15th.

Resume: http://heylookit.me/6Zc3

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From myles at tenhand.com  Mon May  9 16:28:36 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:28:36 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Makerfaire update, help needed.
Message-ID: <58100E0B-3CF8-41F0-90D3-DBBEE57C5961@tenhand.com>


Good news & bad news. 
The good news is that thanks to Peter, Daniel & Al, we've got an increasingly tuned book scanner almost ready to roll.  You can see last weekends work under Al's desk. 
The bad news is that I had a deadline moved up &  have to be on the east coast Thursday afternoon through  Saturday night of makerfaire.  

What this means is that I'll need help prepping book scanners, and need it earlier than I'd hoped. My plan is to build 20 book scanners & have them for sale at the event. Those that don't sell will get sold on the Internet. 

The build is going to be a bit beta, so we'll offer a cut rate price to the punters ($60), of which at least $10 is a donation to the space.  The true cost is changing every minute as I find cheaper suppliers for the hardware. The goal is to get it down to about $30 of hardware. Thanks to a one time deal, Daniel will be able to do a lot of laser cutting for the price of drinks. This leaves labor & assembly. 

I've updated the wiki with the labor involved. It's a *lot* simpler than the first prototype:
We need to cut 20 threaded rods in half, using the  red metal saw in the basement that I don't know how to use.  
We need to drill 4 holes in 40 square dowels, so that the holes are centered in their 3/4 width. This calls for a jig & then some quality time with the drill press. 
We need to bag $400 worth of bolts and nuts, getting the right quantities into bags. 
We need to solder scrap wire leads onto 20 momentary press buttons.  
Finally, we need to build one of the scanners & document it extremely well, along with URLs to the software. 

With the possible exception of the press button, 3-4 people should be able to pound this out in an afternoon or long evening.  I'm going to try to get as much hardware in by Friday as possible, but some of it won't arrive until mid to late next week. 
Documentation can be done after about Thursday this week when the updated laser work is ready. 



When can people help? 



From romanian at gmail.com  Mon May  9 16:35:32 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 18:35:32 -0500
Subject: [AMTD] Makerfaire update, help needed.
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this sounds super cool. I wanna be involved! I can probably do some of
this work during the week; seems like some of this is really
independently churning out parts, so as long as I have the specs and
the raw materials, it should be cake.

I can use pretty much any tool we need for this build, and I could
even make the drilling jig. Any leftovers from your previous build
will be helpful to make the jig without ruining new parts.

Let me know,
Stefan

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, myles <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:
>
> Good news & bad news.
> The good news is that thanks to Peter, Daniel & Al, we've got an increasingly tuned book scanner almost ready to roll. ?You can see last weekends work under Al's desk.
> The bad news is that I had a deadline moved up & ?have to be on the east coast Thursday afternoon through ?Saturday night of makerfaire.
>
> What this means is that I'll need help prepping book scanners, and need it earlier than I'd hoped. My plan is to build 20 book scanners & have them for sale at the event. Those that don't sell will get sold on the Internet.
>
> The build is going to be a bit beta, so we'll offer a cut rate price to the punters ($60), of which at least $10 is a donation to the space. ?The true cost is changing every minute as I find cheaper suppliers for the hardware. The goal is to get it down to about $30 of hardware. Thanks to a one time deal, Daniel will be able to do a lot of laser cutting for the price of drinks. This leaves labor & assembly.
>
> I've updated the wiki with the labor involved. It's a *lot* simpler than the first prototype:
> We need to cut 20 threaded rods in half, using the ?red metal saw in the basement that I don't know how to use.
> We need to drill 4 holes in 40 square dowels, so that the holes are centered in their 3/4 width. This calls for a jig & then some quality time with the drill press.
> We need to bag $400 worth of bolts and nuts, getting the right quantities into bags.
> We need to solder scrap wire leads onto 20 momentary press buttons.
> Finally, we need to build one of the scanners & document it extremely well, along with URLs to the software.
>
> With the possible exception of the press button, 3-4 people should be able to pound this out in an afternoon or long evening. ?I'm going to try to get as much hardware in by Friday as possible, but some of it won't arrive until mid to late next week.
> Documentation can be done after about Thursday this week when the updated laser work is ready.
>
>
>
> When can people help?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From chriszf at gmail.com  Mon May  9 16:37:08 2011
From: chriszf at gmail.com (Christian Fernandez)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:37:08 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] python class tomorrow
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Iris,

Programming is on tomorrow night. Given recent attendance, I'm
thinking of doing one of two things

1) Building a web application

2) Threading and high (ish) performance computing.

I'm leaning more towards number two so that we can take the text
adventure we've been building and make it multiplayer.

OOOORRRRR

We could just talk about more object oriented programming again. I
just realized a lot of people missed out on that discussion.

Those are the options, I guess it depends on who shows tomorrow night.
See you there, hopefully!

--
Christian



On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Iris Cheung <hycheung at lbl.gov> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Just wondering if there's a class tomorrow and what the topic may be.
> Thanks!
>
> Iris
>


From gittel at twocats.com  Tue May 10 11:07:29 2011
From: gittel at twocats.com (Mike Gittelsohn)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 11:07:29 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] JavaScript programmer
Message-ID: <BANLkTikh=6_UA8zUNWh5HxqzunaNx6XfHg@mail.gmail.com>

Do you know JavaScript or know anyone who does? My friend started a company
and they need a JavaScript contractor.
It seems like an interesting project.

Mike

-- 
Mike Gittelsohn
1638 Ward Street
Berkeley, CA 94703
510-812-8620 (cell)
gittel at twocats.com
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 10 15:21:29 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:21:29 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Makerfaire update, help needed.
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On May 9, 2011, at 4:28 PM, myles wrote:

> I've updated the wiki with the labor involved. It's a *lot* simpler than the first prototype:
> We need to cut 20 threaded rods in half, using the  red metal saw in the basement that I don't know how to use.  
> We need to drill 4 holes in 40 square dowels, so that the holes are centered in their 3/4 width. This calls for a jig & then some quality time with the drill press. 
> We need to bag $400 worth of bolts and nuts, getting the right quantities into bags. 
> We need to solder scrap wire leads onto 20 momentary press buttons.  
> Finally, we need to build one of the scanners & document it extremely well, along with URLs to the software. 
> 
> With the possible exception of the press button, 3-4 people should be able to pound this out in an afternoon or long evening.  I'm going to try to get as much hardware in by Friday as possible, but some of it won't arrive until mid to late next week. 
> Documentation can be done after about Thursday this week when the updated laser work is ready. 
> 
> When can people help? 

I'm available any time (or all day) on Saturday. Sunday, I'm tied up in the afternoon with prior commitments but could be available after 6:00 PM.

I'm also available on Thursday though I assume (and I should check with them) that we're having visitors this week.

Al

From danreetz at gmail.com  Tue May 10 15:37:10 2011
From: danreetz at gmail.com (Daniel Reetz)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:37:10 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Makerfaire update, help needed.
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>> When can people help?
>
> I'm available any time (or all day) on Saturday. Sunday, I'm tied up in the afternoon with prior commitments but could be available after 6:00 PM.
>
> I'm also available on Thursday though I assume (and I should check with them) that we're having visitors this week.

FWIW, Rob (DIYBookScanner co-founder) and I will be around on Friday
afternoon through the end of Maker Faire. We can likely help out some,
though I'm more the public-facing type guy of the pair. I'm happy to
relieve people, stump for AMT and also DIY Book Scanner while there.

If anyone has a convenient spare bedroom or couch available, that
would be pretty great. Don't know what Rob's plans are, but we can
definitely get hotel rooms if rooms are a pain.

Daniel Reetz


From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 10 15:42:01 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:42:01 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: CMKT 4 Hackerspace Tour
References: <4dc9beae.4132440a.6497.0b03@mx.google.com>
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Things are a go for Thursday. Tell your friends!

It would be good to have a decent turn out for out of town guests, if possible. It will be sad if there are only four of us!

Al

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "cmktfour at gmail.com" <cmktfour at gmail.com>
> Date: May 10, 2011 3:39:54 PM PDT
> To: "Al Jigen BIllings" <albill at openbuddha.com>
> Subject: Re: CMKT 4 Hackerspace Tour
> 
> Yes. We are on our way. We are getting ready to teach a workshop in Provo tonight, and the tour is going well so far. See you soon.
> 
> www.facebook.com/cmkt4
> getlofi.com/shop
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Al Jigen BIllings" <albill at openbuddha.com>
> Date: Tue, May 10, 2011 4:22 pm
> Subject: CMKT 4 Hackerspace Tour
> To: <cmktfour at gmail.com>
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I haven't heard from you in a month or so and I thought I'd better check. 
> 
> Are you guys still planning on coming to Ace Monster Toys this Thursday evening?
> 
> Al
> 
> On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:12 PM, cmktfour at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Hey, thanks for your interest. We would definitely like to make Ace Monster Toys a stop on our tour. We can leave the performance out if space is a concern.
> > 
> > So, will Thursday, May 12th work for you?
> > 
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "Al Jigen BIllings" <albill at openbuddha.com>
> > Date: Sun, Mar 27, 2011 5:34 pm
> > Subject: CMKT 4 Hackerspace Tour
> > To: "CMKT 4" <cmktfour at gmail.com>
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Your original message wound up in my spam folder for some reason. I think we'd be interested in a visit in general but we don't really have the space for any sort of performance. We're much smaller than Noisebridge, which is probably a better venue overall with its physical size and location in the Mission. 
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> > On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:31 AM, CMKT 4 wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi, just checking to see if you're interested. Mitch Altman suggested
> > > Ace Monster Toys as a stop on our tour...
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:03 PM, cmktfour at gmail.com <cmktfour at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >> My name is Jeff, I'm with the circuit-bending rock band CMKT4. We
> > >> manufacture and sell bottle-cap contact microphones. Recently we have
> > >> introduced kits for building contact microphones our way and we have started
> > >> to teach workshops about the process we use to make them. Since then we have
> > >> taught our workshops at over 15 hackerspaces across the Midwest.
> > >> 
> > >> We are headed to the San Francisco Maker Faire and our tour route will bring
> > >> us through Oakland on Thursday, May 12th. We were wondering if you would be
> > >> interested in hosting a contact microphone building workshop at your
> > >> hackerspace.
> > >> 
> > >> At our workshops, everyone who buys a kit ($15 per workshop attendee,
> > >> includes a kit; $10 apiece for additional kits)  will learn to solder.  They
> > >> will also work with hot glue, zip ties, shielded cable, a piezo electric
> > >> disc and recycled bottle-caps to make a fully functioning Bottle-Cap Contact
> > >> Microphone.  These microphones pick up physical vibrations and transduce the
> > >> vibrations into an electrical audio signal.  Students are encouraged to
> > >> bring instruments and found objects to listen to through the microphones.
> > >> There is a dry-time involved in the materials we use, however, during that
> > >> time, we will put on a brief performance for the attendees. For the
> > >> performance, we will require the use of a PA.
> > >> 
> > >> You can hear more about us at http://www.facebook.com/cmkt4
> > >>  http://www.myspace.com/cmkt4 and http://cmkt4.bandcamp.com/, we have
> > >> performance videos at http://www.vimeo.com/channels/cremedementia. Follow us
> > >> on twitter @cmkt4.
> > >> 
> > >> Thank you for your consideration and keep in touch,
> > >> 
> > >> -Austin Cliffe, Jeff Cox, Zach Adams - CMKT 4
> > >> 
> > >> www.facebook.com/cmkt4
> > >> getlofi.com/shop
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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From louise.s.fox at gmail.com  Tue May 10 21:44:54 2011
From: louise.s.fox at gmail.com (Louise Fox)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 21:44:54 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Makerfaire update, help needed.
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=s3LFdkAtjDN9gqwm0XVHfQm14TQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <58100E0B-3CF8-41F0-90D3-DBBEE57C5961@tenhand.com>
	<DCE69035-FA70-4A8D-989C-957C090D5C7F@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTi=s3LFdkAtjDN9gqwm0XVHfQm14TQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimE6VnkunVvs_HTK5TBOid9vVhQ2g@mail.gmail.com>

I might be able to help this weekend... I am still waiting to hear back if I
am needed at work. I'll let you know on Friday.

-Louise

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Daniel Reetz <danreetz at gmail.com> wrote:

> >> When can people help?
> >
> > I'm available any time (or all day) on Saturday. Sunday, I'm tied up in
> the afternoon with prior commitments but could be available after 6:00 PM.
> >
> > I'm also available on Thursday though I assume (and I should check with
> them) that we're having visitors this week.
>
> FWIW, Rob (DIYBookScanner co-founder) and I will be around on Friday
> afternoon through the end of Maker Faire. We can likely help out some,
> though I'm more the public-facing type guy of the pair. I'm happy to
> relieve people, stump for AMT and also DIY Book Scanner while there.
>
> If anyone has a convenient spare bedroom or couch available, that
> would be pretty great. Don't know what Rob's plans are, but we can
> definitely get hotel rooms if rooms are a pain.
>
> Daniel Reetz
> _______________________________________________
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> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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>



-- 
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Mechanical Engineer
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From danreetz at gmail.com  Tue May 10 21:47:36 2011
From: danreetz at gmail.com (Daniel Reetz)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 21:47:36 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Makerfaire update, help needed.
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=s3LFdkAtjDN9gqwm0XVHfQm14TQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <58100E0B-3CF8-41F0-90D3-DBBEE57C5961@tenhand.com>
	<DCE69035-FA70-4A8D-989C-957C090D5C7F@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTi=s3LFdkAtjDN9gqwm0XVHfQm14TQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikWypcmQxv7fCGCqV-+zcHPrQB_hQ@mail.gmail.com>

> If anyone has a convenient spare bedroom or couch available, that
> would be pretty great. Don't know what Rob's plans are, but we can
> definitely get hotel rooms if rooms are a pain.

Room located. Retracting couch request.


From albill at openbuddha.com  Wed May 11 10:59:01 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:59:01 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-announce] Contact Mics and Circuit Bending
 Friday the 13th with CMKT 4
Message-ID: <4DCACE65.6010604@openbuddha.com>

  I believe we're in the same boat for Thursday (tomorrow), minus the 
performance. The $15 is for parts for building the contact microphone.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[Noisebridge-announce] Contact Mics and Circuit Bending Friday 
the 13th with CMKT 4
Date: 	Wed, 11 May 2011 10:42:57 -0700
From: 	CMKT 4 <cmktfour at gmail.com>
To: 	noisebridge-announce at lists.noisebridge.net



Hello Noisebridge Hackers.
CMKT4 is coming to teach their very popular Contact Microphone
Workshop at Noisebridge! This Friday, May 13th at 7pm, CMKT4 will
teach a workshop, then perform a rock set for the attendees. Also, we
will have our array of circuit bent devices on display. The Contact
Mic Workshop is $15, but feel free to attend for the performance (we
appreciate donations, we drove all the way from Chicago). Be sure to
check out our tour schedule on getlofi: http://www.getlofi.com/?p=4417

Also, make sure to "like" us at facebook.com/cmkt4 to keep up with our
exploits as we travel across the US

See you Friday!

-Jeff, Austin, Zach
CMKT 4


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From drorex at gmail.com  Wed May 11 11:01:30 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 11:01:30 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] David's not doing a microcontroller workshop tonight
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=a7PXpJHGccdngv38BQx5s9ZoOuQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am super swamped for the next couple weeks, I wont be able to make tonight
or the one in two weeks for tonight. However people are still welcome to
gather and discuss things. After this hiatus, I'm planning to change the
format of the workshop slightly, in that there will be a specific goal for
each night, to build some kind of device, that people can use to learn about
microcontrollers, and keep as a little souvenir.
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Wed May 11 11:03:13 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 11:03:13 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] David's not doing a microcontroller workshop tonight
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=a7PXpJHGccdngv38BQx5s9ZoOuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=a7PXpJHGccdngv38BQx5s9ZoOuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DCACF61.4080503@openbuddha.com>

Translation: David's getting married and has to get some stuff done to 
plan for that event!

On 5/11/11 11:01 AM, David Rorex wrote:
> I am super swamped for the next couple weeks, I wont be able to make 
> tonight or the one in two weeks for tonight. However people are still 
> welcome to gather and discuss things. After this hiatus, I'm planning 
> to change the format of the workshop slightly, in that there will be a 
> specific goal for each night, to build some kind of device, that 
> people can use to learn about microcontrollers, and keep as a 
> little souvenir.



From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu May 12 10:12:46 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:12:46 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Contact Microphone thinger tonight
Message-ID: <81CE39F3-8537-4B94-972B-B9E19512B73F@openbuddha.com>

We're having a workshop at the space tonight. Because of that, please try to be there at 7:30 sharp so our guests aren't waiting for us to drag ourselves in.

I'd love to see a good turnout if possible.

Also, remember, next Thursday the Lasersuar open source laser cutter people will be visiting and then Maker Faire!

From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu May 12 11:04:02 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:04:02 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Facebook even for tonight
Message-ID: <0874D612-4DE4-4812-BE0C-496358E7A5A9@openbuddha.com>

Our guests from CMKT 4 created an event listing for tonight for those on Facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=150627441667656

I guess they want to start at 7:00 but I've already warned them that since we start at 7:30 normally, they are unlikely to get people at 7:00.

(I didn't know they were making this page...)

Al

From myles at tenhand.com  Fri May 13 17:30:30 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:30:30 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Book scanner update & updated help needed.
Message-ID: <12871126-A378-4A3C-8A59-612E4C6C2F43@tenhand.com>


Does somebody have a square device up & ready to accept credit cards at makerfaire? 


Tonight & tomorrow morning I'll be writing up documentation. Daniel has sent up a fresh set of laser cut parts to arrive tomorrow.  After they get here, I'll go to the space, dropping off the parts needed for one full build. I'll also finish soldering together & test one pair of cameras so that they're ready to go. ( I will set up a second pair if I can). 

Can someone(s) try building to plan and improving documentation between tomorrow and Tuesday?  If there are no show stopping bugs, that gives Daniel some time to lasercut before driving up here. 

Lots of parts will be arriving wednesday & need to be sorted into bags, and steel rods cut in half. I'll provide the bags & drop off parts on my way to the airport. 




From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May 13 18:57:32 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:57:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Book scanner update & updated help needed.
In-Reply-To: <12871126-A378-4A3C-8A59-612E4C6C2F43@tenhand.com>
References: <12871126-A378-4A3C-8A59-612E4C6C2F43@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <D5A2BD71-2CFE-4ACC-8C85-DA704BEB8AD3@openbuddha.com>

I can do a build to plan. I'll come to the space after you drop them if you tell me when you do so.

Al



On May 13, 2011, at 5:30 PM, myles <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:

> 
> Does somebody have a square device up & ready to accept credit cards at makerfaire? 
> 
> 
> Tonight & tomorrow morning I'll be writing up documentation. Daniel has sent up a fresh set of laser cut parts to arrive tomorrow.  After they get here, I'll go to the space, dropping off the parts needed for one full build. I'll also finish soldering together & test one pair of cameras so that they're ready to go. ( I will set up a second pair if I can). 
> 
> Can someone(s) try building to plan and improving documentation between tomorrow and Tuesday?  If there are no show stopping bugs, that gives Daniel some time to lasercut before driving up here. 
> 
> Lots of parts will be arriving wednesday & need to be sorted into bags, and steel rods cut in half. I'll provide the bags & drop off parts on my way to the airport. 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 14 15:42:51 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 15:42:51 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] CMKT 4 Workshop
Message-ID: <D1EB062A-9DEE-4C7E-9648-5BDD4FEF50AD@openbuddha.com>

Hi,

I've posted to the website about CMKT 4's visit on this last Thursday. All of us there had a great time with the guys. There is a video link at the end of the post that goes to something from the other day at a *different* hackerspace for those who want to get more information about them.

They'll be at Maker Faire next week.

http://acemonstertoys.org/content/cmkt-4-visit-and-workshop-ace-monster-toys

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 14 15:49:16 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 15:49:16 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire Booth Volunteers
Message-ID: <CC47FF73-AD59-4F76-A643-6DDD4345AEF7@openbuddha.com>

Right now, we don't have enough people to cover having two people in the AMT Maker Faire booth during the event at all times.

I've added a list to http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/2011_Maker_Faire at the bottom of the page. 

Right now they are four hour shifts but I'd like to make them three hour to take some load of off people.

If you're able to cover a shift, even just one on one day, please let me know and add your name on the page.

Also, if you're going to be around and can cover an hour to spot people so they can go get food, etc, please add your name separately with a note about that.

We really do need people to be there. I'll be on the morning shift both days.

Al



From romanian at gmail.com  Sat May 14 19:18:47 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 21:18:47 -0500
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire Booth Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <CC47FF73-AD59-4F76-A643-6DDD4345AEF7@openbuddha.com>
References: <CC47FF73-AD59-4F76-A643-6DDD4345AEF7@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=DhbKELQqQ_Ux6QGQRw83XZOv6Lg@mail.gmail.com>

Ill try to do some om Sunday.  Will post on list
On May 14, 2011 5:49 PM, "Al Jigen BIllings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Right now, we don't have enough people to cover having two people in the
AMT Maker Faire booth during the event at all times.
>
> I've added a list to http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/2011_Maker_Faire at
the bottom of the page.
>
> Right now they are four hour shifts but I'd like to make them three hour
to take some load of off people.
>
> If you're able to cover a shift, even just one on one day, please let me
know and add your name on the page.
>
> Also, if you're going to be around and can cover an hour to spot people so
they can go get food, etc, please add your name separately with a note about
that.
>
> We really do need people to be there. I'll be on the morning shift both
days.
>
> Al
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From myles at tenhand.com  Sun May 15 19:16:46 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 19:16:46 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Bookscanner update!
Message-ID: <0F6717D1-44E6-4B3A-8F20-A4A16353BB13@tenhand.com>

Stefan is my hero!  Thanks to him & help from Heph & Louise, we have enough lifting arms for today & a jig for tomorrow. 


I've updated http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/2011_Maker_Faire#Projects_at_the_Faire somewhat. 

I've fixed all the bugs I know about in the laser cutting template & uploaded in a variety of formats at http://www.tenhand.com/bscanner . Edits are in blue. 

I've written some truely excrable documentation & put it in the word file Horrible Docs in that folder. I'd love someone to make it into wiki, pdf, webpage or anything else. It needs most of the pictures replaced. 

I got our book scanner mostly working. It's on one base, the electronics work & are tested. One of the two camera stands is in place. The pvc is too jiggly, so we'll need 2 one foot lengths of black iron 1/2 threaded nipples if we want to take good pictures.  If anyone has a lens cleaning kit, those cameras need a good clean. 


Still to do
- cut threaded rods in half when they get here. 
- bag bolt kits when they get here
- cut two 9" sections of 1.5x1.5 for each kit. Edges should be square, so use the chop saw. 
- put pigtails on the switches that are in the digikey box in the plastic tub upstairs in the back corner. There's some wire there as well for the purpose.  You can measure required length based on our scanner (should be about 3 feet. 

- FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PAID AT MAKER FAIRE!  





From drorex at gmail.com  Mon May 16 09:20:42 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 09:20:42 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Bookscanner update!
In-Reply-To: <0F6717D1-44E6-4B3A-8F20-A4A16353BB13@tenhand.com>
References: <0F6717D1-44E6-4B3A-8F20-A4A16353BB13@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinNspa0YYNjibkMLm898r=jtXy_3A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:16 PM, myles <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:

>
> - FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PAID AT MAKER FAIRE!
>
>
>
I have a Square account for AMT, and robbie has a square reader and is
planning to be at the maker faire...perhaps I could give him the account
info, and you could use that to charge credit cards?
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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Mon May 16 12:46:27 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 12:46:27 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire Booth Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <CC47FF73-AD59-4F76-A643-6DDD4345AEF7@openbuddha.com>
References: <CC47FF73-AD59-4F76-A643-6DDD4345AEF7@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinOO3gUyj5v1XTU+Q7-4tk8YVRdhQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there all day Sunday.

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Right now, we don't have enough people to cover having two people in the
> AMT Maker Faire booth during the event at all times.
>
> I've added a list to http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/2011_Maker_Faire at
> the bottom of the page.
>
> Right now they are four hour shifts but I'd like to make them three hour to
> take some load of off people.
>
> If you're able to cover a shift, even just one on one day, please let me
> know and add your name on the page.
>
> Also, if you're going to be around and can cover an hour to spot people so
> they can go get food, etc, please add your name separately with a note about
> that.
>
> We really do need people to be there. I'll be on the morning shift both
> days.
>
> Al
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May 16 17:55:11 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:55:11 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Lasersaur People on Thursday
Message-ID: <E4B5B8CA-2393-4C88-A557-CCC4C0D596C8@openbuddha.com>

The creators of the Lasersaur, an open source laser cutter, will be visiting our Thursday night meeting this week. They won't be bringing one with them (I'm picking them up at BART in my prius) but will be building one at Maker Faire this weekend.

I expect that they'll talk about the process of building it, some of the decisions that went into it, etc. I told them that they should treat it informally and I expect it will be a bit like when Daniel Reetz visited us.

Al

From romanian at gmail.com  Mon May 16 17:59:47 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 19:59:47 -0500
Subject: [AMTD] Lasersaur People on Thursday
In-Reply-To: <E4B5B8CA-2393-4C88-A557-CCC4C0D596C8@openbuddha.com>
References: <E4B5B8CA-2393-4C88-A557-CCC4C0D596C8@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <785E0A9F-4FEF-45D7-88B8-06E3131C699D@gmail.com>

So sad to miss this, but please take notes :)
Or maybe pics/video?

On May 16, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:

> The creators of the Lasersaur, an open source laser cutter, will be visiting our Thursday night meeting this week. They won't be bringing one with them (I'm picking them up at BART in my prius) but will be building one at Maker Faire this weekend.
> 
> I expect that they'll talk about the process of building it, some of the decisions that went into it, etc. I told them that they should treat it informally and I expect it will be a bit like when Daniel Reetz visited us.
> 
> Al
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May 16 18:01:11 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:01:11 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Lasersaur People on Thursday
In-Reply-To: <785E0A9F-4FEF-45D7-88B8-06E3131C699D@gmail.com>
References: <E4B5B8CA-2393-4C88-A557-CCC4C0D596C8@openbuddha.com>
	<785E0A9F-4FEF-45D7-88B8-06E3131C699D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <99E1F185-31E4-47BF-92C1-D6793A7AA98F@openbuddha.com>

What? You can't be there?

On May 16, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:

> So sad to miss this, but please take notes :)
> Or maybe pics/video?
> 
> On May 16, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> 
>> The creators of the Lasersaur, an open source laser cutter, will be visiting our Thursday night meeting this week. They won't be bringing one with them (I'm picking them up at BART in my prius) but will be building one at Maker Faire this weekend.
>> 
>> I expect that they'll talk about the process of building it, some of the decisions that went into it, etc. I told them that they should treat it informally and I expect it will be a bit like when Daniel Reetz visited us.
>> 
>> Al
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From me at robbiet.us  Mon May 16 18:02:45 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:02:45 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Lasersaur People on Thursday
In-Reply-To: <99E1F185-31E4-47BF-92C1-D6793A7AA98F@openbuddha.com>
References: <E4B5B8CA-2393-4C88-A557-CCC4C0D596C8@openbuddha.com>
	<785E0A9F-4FEF-45D7-88B8-06E3131C699D@gmail.com>
	<99E1F185-31E4-47BF-92C1-D6793A7AA98F@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <A6BB9D2B6C544E889839B19A67EE03B3@gmail.com>

REPLY ALL FAIL

-- 
Robbie Trencheny

On Monday, May 16, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote: 
> What? You can't be there?
> 
> On May 16, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> 
> > So sad to miss this, but please take notes :)
> > Or maybe pics/video?
> > 
> > On May 16, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The creators of the Lasersaur, an open source laser cutter, will be visiting our Thursday night meeting this week. They won't be bringing one with them (I'm picking them up at BART in my prius) but will be building one at Maker Faire this weekend.
> > > 
> > > I expect that they'll talk about the process of building it, some of the decisions that went into it, etc. I told them that they should treat it informally and I expect it will be a bit like when Daniel Reetz visited us.
> > > 
> > > Al
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Discuss mailing list
> > > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May 16 18:08:40 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:08:40 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Lasersaur People on Thursday
In-Reply-To: <A6BB9D2B6C544E889839B19A67EE03B3@gmail.com>
References: <E4B5B8CA-2393-4C88-A557-CCC4C0D596C8@openbuddha.com>
	<785E0A9F-4FEF-45D7-88B8-06E3131C699D@gmail.com>
	<99E1F185-31E4-47BF-92C1-D6793A7AA98F@openbuddha.com>
	<A6BB9D2B6C544E889839B19A67EE03B3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <21AE6D6F-7B3C-44D3-A2C7-36D5FD46E556@openbuddha.com>

No, it was a public outing of him, junior!

I was attempting to shame him into coming to the meeting!

On May 16, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:

> REPLY ALL FAIL
> 
> -- 
> Robbie Trencheny
> 
> On Monday, May 16, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
> 
>> What? You can't be there?
>> 
>> On May 16, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>> 
>>> So sad to miss this, but please take notes :)
>>> Or maybe pics/video?
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The creators of the Lasersaur, an open source laser cutter, will be visiting our Thursday night meeting this week. They won't be bringing one with them (I'm picking them up at BART in my prius) but will be building one at Maker Faire this weekend.
>>>> 
>>>> I expect that they'll talk about the process of building it, some of the decisions that went into it, etc. I told them that they should treat it informally and I expect it will be a bit like when Daniel Reetz visited us.
>>>> 
>>>> Al
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From romanian at gmail.com  Mon May 16 18:50:13 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:50:13 -0500
Subject: [AMTD] Lasersaur People on Thursday
In-Reply-To: <21AE6D6F-7B3C-44D3-A2C7-36D5FD46E556@openbuddha.com>
References: <E4B5B8CA-2393-4C88-A557-CCC4C0D596C8@openbuddha.com>
	<785E0A9F-4FEF-45D7-88B8-06E3131C699D@gmail.com>
	<99E1F185-31E4-47BF-92C1-D6793A7AA98F@openbuddha.com>
	<A6BB9D2B6C544E889839B19A67EE03B3@gmail.com>
	<21AE6D6F-7B3C-44D3-A2C7-36D5FD46E556@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=+DpXZ7cUt4q9xYtS=mz4tKaKtiw@mail.gmail.com>

it would take quite a bit to make me fly from Chicago and back for the meet :P


On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Al Jigen BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> No, it was a public outing of him, junior!
> I was attempting to shame him into coming to the meeting!
> On May 16, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
>
> REPLY ALL FAIL
>
> --
> Robbie Trencheny
>
> On Monday, May 16, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
>
> What? You can't be there?
>
> On May 16, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>
> So sad to miss this, but please take notes :)
> Or maybe pics/video?
>
> On May 16, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> wrote:
>
> The creators of the Lasersaur, an open source laser cutter, will be visiting
> our Thursday night meeting this week. They won't be bringing one with them
> (I'm picking them up at BART in my prius) but will be building one at Maker
> Faire this weekend.
>
> I expect that they'll talk about the process of building it, some of the
> decisions that went into it, etc. I told them that they should treat it
> informally and I expect it will be a bit like when Daniel Reetz visited us.
>
> Al
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>


From biff at cliffle.com  Tue May 17 09:04:57 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:04:57 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] First run of our new motion control board.
Message-ID: <BANLkTin2R6JP_c2Tkgkt_=Oy+rqSX58G-A@mail.gmail.com>

Here's the board I've been mumbling about for a couple months, hot off
the assembly line.  It's intended for applications like robots or
lighting control, but it should come in handy for all sorts of
embedded uses.

http://cliffle.com/img/gogo-v1.png (would have sent inline, but the
mailserver doesn't support it)

Personally, I'm planning to use it to control that Prusa Mendel I want to build.

Features:
- High-speed (32MHz) AVR Xmega core -- up to 256Ki of Flash and 32Ki of
RAM.  The CPU is fast enough that you only need *one,* eliminating
some complexity compared to the RepRap electronics.
- Eight identical ports with analog, digital, and high-speed serial.
- Ninth "bonus port" -- no analog and lower speed.
- Port enumeration support, so you can rearrange cables or swap out
devices without software changes.
- Standard Arduino/MakerBot serial connector (though it is *not*
Arduino-compatible).
- Standard Atmel programming/debug connector.
- MicroSD support (currently up to 16GiB).
- Low part count, so it's relatively cheap to build.

We're working on some pluggable devices:
- A three-axis stepper controller for a mill or printer.  (Mostly works.)
- Extruder controller.
- An Ethernet adapter, so you can print over IP.  (Worked at one
point, needs modification.)
- A Bluetooth-serial adapter.  (Works.)

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 17 09:39:10 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:39:10 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] First run of our new motion control board.
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTin2R6JP_c2Tkgkt_=Oy+rqSX58G-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTin2R6JP_c2Tkgkt_=Oy+rqSX58G-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71991F2F-C9DF-44F6-9DDD-108D2D5A2E7A@openbuddha.com>

This is pretty sweet. Anything working to show or demo at the Maker Faire to promote your project?

On May 17, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> Here's the board I've been mumbling about for a couple months, hot off
> the assembly line.  It's intended for applications like robots or
> lighting control, but it should come in handy for all sorts of
> embedded uses.
> 
> http://cliffle.com/img/gogo-v1.png (would have sent inline, but the
> mailserver doesn't support it)
> 
> Personally, I'm planning to use it to control that Prusa Mendel I want to build.
> 
> Features:
> - High-speed (32MHz) AVR Xmega core -- up to 256Ki of Flash and 32Ki of
> RAM.  The CPU is fast enough that you only need *one,* eliminating
> some complexity compared to the RepRap electronics.
> - Eight identical ports with analog, digital, and high-speed serial.
> - Ninth "bonus port" -- no analog and lower speed.
> - Port enumeration support, so you can rearrange cables or swap out
> devices without software changes.
> - Standard Arduino/MakerBot serial connector (though it is *not*
> Arduino-compatible).
> - Standard Atmel programming/debug connector.
> - MicroSD support (currently up to 16GiB).
> - Low part count, so it's relatively cheap to build.
> 
> We're working on some pluggable devices:
> - A three-axis stepper controller for a mill or printer.  (Mostly works.)
> - Extruder controller.
> - An Ethernet adapter, so you can print over IP.  (Worked at one
> point, needs modification.)
> - A Bluetooth-serial adapter.  (Works.)
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 17 09:55:44 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:55:44 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Bookscanner
Message-ID: <0A112AC1-B71A-44CD-A808-22E3FCE20677@openbuddha.com>

Can someone give me a current sitrep on the bookscanner, what is left to do for it, and the kits?

I have time tonight to work on stuff.

Sean, can you send me a copy of the current flyer stuff?

Al

From biff at cliffle.com  Tue May 17 10:04:32 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:04:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] First run of our new motion control board.
In-Reply-To: <71991F2F-C9DF-44F6-9DDD-108D2D5A2E7A@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTin2R6JP_c2Tkgkt_=Oy+rqSX58G-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<71991F2F-C9DF-44F6-9DDD-108D2D5A2E7A@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinbYySeNG-aT1YEVwyJGxAtMk0NZw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Al Jigen BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> This is pretty sweet. Anything working to show or demo at the Maker Faire to
> promote your project?

Hmmmm.  Maaaaaybe?  +anton

My focus is on invisible boring things -- specifically, porting my
multitasking kernel.

Anton has built the three-axis controller and is focusing on hardware drivers.

Heph sez:
> That's hot :-)

Thanks!

> How many did you have made, and how expensive are they?

The first run was ten boards, and Anton has populated at least two of
those.  I'm not sure what kind of price we'll end up with (either to
build or to buy) -- first runs of new PCBs are always expensive.

I *can* say that it cost less to have this board fabbed in a short run
(i.e. at high cost) than to buy a single MakerBot Gen4 electronics
package.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From danreetz at gmail.com  Tue May 17 11:43:17 2011
From: danreetz at gmail.com (Daniel Reetz)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:43:17 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Bookscanner
In-Reply-To: <0A112AC1-B71A-44CD-A808-22E3FCE20677@openbuddha.com>
References: <0A112AC1-B71A-44CD-A808-22E3FCE20677@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinRN4WCSht1jXMrZnGP_Q-ZknL=3A@mail.gmail.com>

I just arrived back in Cali, I'll be doing some lasercutting tomorrow
to get you 5 or so units.

That's all I know.
Daniel

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Al Jigen BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Can someone give me a current sitrep on the bookscanner, what is left to do for it, and the kits?
>
> I have time tonight to work on stuff.
>
> Sean, can you send me a copy of the current flyer stuff?
>
> Al
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From myles at tenhand.com  Tue May 17 11:46:32 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:46:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Bookscanner
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinRN4WCSht1jXMrZnGP_Q-ZknL=3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0A112AC1-B71A-44CD-A808-22E3FCE20677@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinRN4WCSht1jXMrZnGP_Q-ZknL=3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8C9EE9E4-866F-48BA-BD78-0E8B1399E9D4@tenhand.com>


I'll go to the space tonight to get our demo scanner working  & a bit prettier. 

The bolt kit parts are getting here some time this week. I need to do some UPS tracking  & someone may need to pick them up from my house on thursday or friday. 
Mostly we're on track & the wiki is up to date with the additional work that needs doing. 

On May 17, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Daniel Reetz wrote:

> I just arrived back in Cali, I'll be doing some lasercutting tomorrow
> to get you 5 or so units.
> 
> That's all I know.
> Daniel
> 
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Al Jigen BIllings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> Can someone give me a current sitrep on the bookscanner, what is left to do for it, and the kits?
>> 
>> I have time tonight to work on stuff.
>> 
>> Sean, can you send me a copy of the current flyer stuff?
>> 
>> Al
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From rachel at xtreme.com  Tue May 17 18:00:33 2011
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:00:33 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Re: [SFmicrocontrollers] RE: Seeed studio is in town
 for Maker Faire. I'm showing them around on Monday,
 and we'll have dinner Monday night
Message-ID: <4DD31A31.3030509@xtreme.com>

Anyone gonna be around on Monday, want to meet up with them?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [SFmicrocontrollers] RE: Seeed studio is in town for Maker 
Faire. I'm showing them around on Monday, and we'll have dinner Monday night
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:57:21 -0700
From: Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com>
Reply-To: SFmicrocontrollers at yahoogroups.com
To: SFmicrocontrollers at yahoogroups.com

AMT is Ace Monster Toys, in the East Bay.  I'll forward this to the AMT
list; a bunch of them are going to the Maker Faire with book scanners
(this is a super cool project, inspired by the guy who wrote this
Instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-High-Speed-Book-Scanner-from-Trash-and-Cheap-C/)

And btw, the Cataclysmic Megashear Ranch is going strong, I've got a
studio there myself for my Rolly House project.  I don't believe they'll
have a particular Maker Faire presence though.  There will probably be
people there Monday, if you like I can poke that list too.

I can't commit, myself, to taking you guys around either place Monday,
though :(

Rachel

On 5/17/11 5:49 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
> Noisebridge will probably be pretty dead on Monday morning after the
> Faire. But it will probably be way hopping Monday night, after dinner.
>
> If you like, I can give you a key to Noisebridge during the Maker Faire
> -- I'll be giving out lots of them at the Faire.
>
> Unfortunately I won't be able to join for dinner, as I have committments
> Monday night, but can meet up later.
>
> (I don't know what "AMT" is.)
>
> Mitch.
>
>
> ----------------------
>  > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:35:31 -0700
>  > From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com
>  > To: SFmicrocontrollers at yahoogroups.com
>  > Subject: Seeed studio is in town for Maker Faire. I'm showing them
> around on Monday, and we'll have dinner Monday night
>  >
>  > You'll see them at the fair of course, and then on Monday I'm giving
>  > some of them a tour around the hacker/maker/DIY spaces.
>  >
>  > If we visit NB at 10AM, is there a chance anyone will be there that
>  > early after Maker Faire? I kind of doubt it.
>  >
>  > I've never been to AMT, but I'd like to visit, along with Seeed. Is
>  > someone available to show us around?
>  >
>  > Other than that I'm taking them to the usual places I know: Crucible,
>  > TechShop, American Steel, Shipyard, Box Shop, GAFFTA, Tech Liminal, and
>  > perhaps Megashear Ranch if they are still in business. I'm open to
>  > suggestions of other places.
>  >
>  > After our tour I suggested we invite the hacker community to join us for
>  > dinner. Many of us have experimented with items from Seeed and I thought
>  > it would be nice to have a chat about our experiences with their
>  > products, and to ask questions about the future.
>  >
>  > Interested?
>  >
>  > Suggestions for a place? I'm thinking Mi Lindo Peru, 3226 Mission St,
>  > San Francisco but they don't take reservations so that might be a
> problem.
>  >
>  >
>  > Michael
>  > --
>  > Michael Shiloh
>  > KA6RCQ
>  > www.teachmetomake.com
>  > teachmetomake.wordpress.com
>  > Interested in classes? Join
> http://groups.google.com/group/teach-me-to-make
>
>


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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 17 18:54:11 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:54:11 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Re: [SFmicrocontrollers] RE: Seeed studio is in
	town for Maker Faire. I'm showing them around on Monday,
	and we'll have dinner Monday night
In-Reply-To: <4DD31A31.3030509@xtreme.com>
References: <4DD31A31.3030509@xtreme.com>
Message-ID: <E795BB94-D23B-4143-80CF-DD8BA189A92D@openbuddha.com>

I'm already talking to Shiloh and seeing about arranging something, if possible.

On May 17, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Rachel McConnell wrote:

> Anyone gonna be around on Monday, want to meet up with them?
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [SFmicrocontrollers] RE: Seeed studio is in town for Maker Faire. I'm showing them around on Monday, and we'll have dinner Monday night
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:57:21 -0700
> From: Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com>
> Reply-To: SFmicrocontrollers at yahoogroups.com
> To: SFmicrocontrollers at yahoogroups.com
> 
> AMT is Ace Monster Toys, in the East Bay.  I'll forward this to the AMT
> list; a bunch of them are going to the Maker Faire with book scanners
> (this is a super cool project, inspired by the guy who wrote this
> Instructable:
> http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-High-Speed-Book-Scanner-from-Trash-and-Cheap-C/)
> 
> And btw, the Cataclysmic Megashear Ranch is going strong, I've got a
> studio there myself for my Rolly House project.  I don't believe they'll
> have a particular Maker Faire presence though.  There will probably be
> people there Monday, if you like I can poke that list too.
> 
> I can't commit, myself, to taking you guys around either place Monday,
> though :(
> 
> Rachel
> 
> On 5/17/11 5:49 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
>> Noisebridge will probably be pretty dead on Monday morning after the
>> Faire. But it will probably be way hopping Monday night, after dinner.
>> 
>> If you like, I can give you a key to Noisebridge during the Maker Faire
>> -- I'll be giving out lots of them at the Faire.
>> 
>> Unfortunately I won't be able to join for dinner, as I have committments
>> Monday night, but can meet up later.
>> 
>> (I don't know what "AMT" is.)
>> 
>> Mitch.
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------
>> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:35:31 -0700
>> > From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com
>> > To: SFmicrocontrollers at yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: Seeed studio is in town for Maker Faire. I'm showing them
>> around on Monday, and we'll have dinner Monday night
>> >
>> > You'll see them at the fair of course, and then on Monday I'm giving
>> > some of them a tour around the hacker/maker/DIY spaces.
>> >
>> > If we visit NB at 10AM, is there a chance anyone will be there that
>> > early after Maker Faire? I kind of doubt it.
>> >
>> > I've never been to AMT, but I'd like to visit, along with Seeed. Is
>> > someone available to show us around?
>> >
>> > Other than that I'm taking them to the usual places I know: Crucible,
>> > TechShop, American Steel, Shipyard, Box Shop, GAFFTA, Tech Liminal, and
>> > perhaps Megashear Ranch if they are still in business. I'm open to
>> > suggestions of other places.
>> >
>> > After our tour I suggested we invite the hacker community to join us for
>> > dinner. Many of us have experimented with items from Seeed and I thought
>> > it would be nice to have a chat about our experiences with their
>> > products, and to ask questions about the future.
>> >
>> > Interested?
>> >
>> > Suggestions for a place? I'm thinking Mi Lindo Peru, 3226 Mission St,
>> > San Francisco but they don't take reservations so that might be a
>> problem.
>> >
>> >
>> > Michael
>> > --
>> > Michael Shiloh
>> > KA6RCQ
>> > www.teachmetomake.com
>> > teachmetomake.wordpress.com
>> > Interested in classes? Join
>> http://groups.google.com/group/teach-me-to-make
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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From heiko.panther at web.de  Tue May 17 21:38:30 2011
From: heiko.panther at web.de (Heiko Panther)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:38:30 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] EFF Geek Reading with Tunisian Activist Sami Ben Gharbia -
 this Friday, May 20th!
Message-ID: <4DD34D46.2030703@web.de>

https://eff.org/r.48V

Join EFF on Friday to learn the inside story about social media and the
Arab Spring!

How important are social networking tools like Twitter and Facebook for
international activists fighting for their liberty? Are these networks
forging a new international power structure? Tunisian activist Sami Ben
Gharbia will join us for a special Geek Gathering to recount the role of
social media in the Tunisian revolution. Sami's presentation and
community dialogue will be hosted by Jillian York, EFF's new Director
for International Freedom of Expression.

This all ages event will be held at EFF's future headquarters in the
heart of the Mission. Come see our new home for online rights!

About Sami Ben Gharbia
Sami is a Tunisian anti-censorship activist and blogger based in the
Netherlands. He is the co-founder of nawaat.org, a Tunisian
award-winning collective blog about news and politics. Sami serves as
Advocacy Director for Global Voices, where he also works on Threatened
Voices, a recently developed initiative of the Global Voices Advocacy
project. He is the author of a French-language book titled Journey in a
Hostile World, which documents his escape from Tunisia.

We ask for a $25 contribution, but no one will be turned away for lack
of funds. EFF member admission is $20 online or at the door with your
Member Card. Contact membership at eff.org for the Members-Only link!

Date:  Friday, May 20, 2011
Time: 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM
Address:
EFF's Future Headquarters
2567 Mission St.
San Francisco, CA 94110


From me at robbiet.us  Wed May 18 10:40:12 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:40:12 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Maker Parking and Information for Maker Faire Bay Area
	2011
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Forwarding this email to list.

We need to figure out who wants to come out for load in and such...

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From me at robbiet.us  Wed May 18 11:18:48 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:18:48 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=ug0hkpd2c7W5Jz2XA-9v-ZZk+hg@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings Programs!

Maker Faire is now upon us! I am doing final coordination and such now.
Please go check out the wiki page for info.

http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/2011_Maker_Faire

On another note, I meant to tell you, we have a special offer from Jameco.
If we need anything delivered for the show, you should let me know so I can
let you know the details and such. You can order anytime.

Please let me know if you have any questions...

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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu May 19 10:23:39 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:23:39 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Square
Message-ID: <4C23B395-FB2D-4F13-8B9A-3472A6437437@openbuddha.com>

I bought a square yesterday for my own use. I'll be bringing it to the Maker Faire in case we actually manage to sell a beta book scanner kit.

Al



From me at robbiet.us  Thu May 19 10:32:24 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:32:24 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Square
In-Reply-To: <4C23B395-FB2D-4F13-8B9A-3472A6437437@openbuddha.com>
References: <4C23B395-FB2D-4F13-8B9A-3472A6437437@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <58E4AD587FE84862BB27DB44659BC5FF@gmail.com>

I got 10 of them from Square themselves yesterday.

Also, Square employees are dicks.

-- 
Robbie Trencheny

On Thursday, May 19, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote: 
> I bought a square yesterday for my own use. I'll be bringing it to the Maker Faire in case we actually manage to sell a beta book scanner kit.
> 
> Al
> 
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu May 19 11:02:44 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 11:02:44 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Square
In-Reply-To: <58E4AD587FE84862BB27DB44659BC5FF@gmail.com>
References: <4C23B395-FB2D-4F13-8B9A-3472A6437437@openbuddha.com>
	<58E4AD587FE84862BB27DB44659BC5FF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B03EA4E6-FEF7-4DF5-8F20-B6F9D19B667E@openbuddha.com>

Stay classy!

On May 19, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:

> I got 10 of them from Square themselves yesterday.
> 
> Also, Square employees are dicks.
> 
> -- 
> Robbie Trencheny
> 
> On Thursday, May 19, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote:
> 
>> I bought a square yesterday for my own use. I'll be bringing it to the Maker Faire in case we actually manage to sell a beta book scanner kit.
>> 
>> Al
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu May 19 21:08:44 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:08:44 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Internet offline at AMT
Message-ID: <25DE360F-95A5-4052-A5B0-FE8ABF52935A@openbuddha.com>

The Internet seems to be down now at the space.




From alxndr at gmail.com  Thu May 19 21:20:55 2011
From: alxndr at gmail.com (Alexander)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:20:55 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Internet offline at AMT
In-Reply-To: <25DE360F-95A5-4052-A5B0-FE8ABF52935A@openbuddha.com>
References: <25DE360F-95A5-4052-A5B0-FE8ABF52935A@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikByTkqninkzrPHegY8qwUGbOPk1w@mail.gmail.com>

Is it Speakeasy? Their service (including VoIP) was down for $dayjob
starting at ~11 am (crippling half our business and supplanting what I
thought I was going to be doing all day). It's only affecting selected
locations in the bay area, not wide swaths. Still no ETA last time I talked
to a tech who had recently talked to XO, all they know is something's wrong
in Fremont.


On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 21:08, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> The Internet seems to be down now at the space.
>
>
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From me at robbiet.us  Thu May 19 21:40:15 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:40:15 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Internet offline at AMT
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikByTkqninkzrPHegY8qwUGbOPk1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <25DE360F-95A5-4052-A5B0-FE8ABF52935A@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTikByTkqninkzrPHegY8qwUGbOPk1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinFkf5WLW1oPUiDe6jZuvyU2zhQCw@mail.gmail.com>

Its not Speakeasy, its Comcast.

Also:

[21:39][robbiet480:~]$ ping -c4 space.acemonstertoys.org
PING space.acemonstertoys.org (75.144.20.73): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 75.144.20.73: icmp_seq=0 ttl=250 time=21.344 ms
64 bytes from 75.144.20.73: icmp_seq=1 ttl=250 time=24.442 ms
64 bytes from 75.144.20.73: icmp_seq=2 ttl=250 time=19.863 ms
64 bytes from 75.144.20.73: icmp_seq=3 ttl=250 time=18.050 ms

--- space.acemonstertoys.org ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 18.050/20.925/24.442/2.342 ms
[21:39][robbiet480:~]$

So it appears to be online again

Robbie Trencheny
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On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Alexander <alxndr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it Speakeasy? Their service (including VoIP) was down for $dayjob
> starting at ~11 am (crippling half our business and supplanting what I
> thought I was going to be doing all day). It's only affecting selected
> locations in the bay area, not wide swaths. Still no ETA last time I talked
> to a tech who had recently talked to XO, all they know is something's wrong
> in Fremont.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 21:08, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:
>
>> The Internet seems to be down now at the space.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu May 19 22:03:25 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:03:25 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Internet offline at AMT
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinFkf5WLW1oPUiDe6jZuvyU2zhQCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <25DE360F-95A5-4052-A5B0-FE8ABF52935A@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTikByTkqninkzrPHegY8qwUGbOPk1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinFkf5WLW1oPUiDe6jZuvyU2zhQCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6EDF8291-6D2E-4A3E-A0A9-3D9534DFBB67@openbuddha.com>

You know that this isn't legally enforcable, right? :-)

On May 19, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:

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From biff at cliffle.com  Fri May 20 09:40:59 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:40:59 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] First run of our new motion control board.
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinbYySeNG-aT1YEVwyJGxAtMk0NZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTin2R6JP_c2Tkgkt_=Oy+rqSX58G-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<71991F2F-C9DF-44F6-9DDD-108D2D5A2E7A@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinbYySeNG-aT1YEVwyJGxAtMk0NZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikMiCYVkr-_+7Se8OTcf-HDNCsNGQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Al Jigen BIllings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> This is pretty sweet. Anything working to show or demo at the Maker Faire to
>> promote your project?
>
> Hmmmm. ?Maaaaaybe? ?+anton

It sounds like we *might* have something to demo on Sunday.  In any
case, I'm planning to be around on Sunday for at least a couple hours,
it looks like.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May 20 10:09:45 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:09:45 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] First run of our new motion control board.
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikMiCYVkr-_+7Se8OTcf-HDNCsNGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTin2R6JP_c2Tkgkt_=Oy+rqSX58G-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<71991F2F-C9DF-44F6-9DDD-108D2D5A2E7A@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinbYySeNG-aT1YEVwyJGxAtMk0NZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTikMiCYVkr-_+7Se8OTcf-HDNCsNGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B69668AA-C7AF-471E-BB7A-07193F7F86AB@openbuddha.com>

That would be cool.

On May 20, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Al Jigen BIllings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>> This is pretty sweet. Anything working to show or demo at the Maker Faire to
>>> promote your project?
>> 
>> Hmmmm.  Maaaaaybe?  +anton
> 
> It sounds like we *might* have something to demo on Sunday.  In any
> case, I'm planning to be around on Sunday for at least a couple hours,
> it looks like.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/



From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Fri May 20 13:27:58 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:27:58 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Who's bringing a car to Maker Faire?
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=T1989COo+5rC7nBouA+fZ_MNzsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Who else is driving to Maker Faire this weekend? I need a couple of
sheets of foamcore board to be brought down, and we'll all need a
little help packing stuff back to the space on Sunday.

--
Heph


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May 20 15:54:25 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:54:25 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Bookscanner work party
Message-ID: <47CD6F62-8BA5-4311-B5E5-B26B11F4D81E@openbuddha.com>

We need people to bag up parts for the bookscanner kits tonight. Robbie and I are at Maker Faire setting up right now and I'll probably be available at 7:30 pm or so but we need more hands.




From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May 20 18:55:17 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:55:17 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Usbnoobie
Message-ID: <35ECD463-C6F0-4646-80F1-129B3BF64784@openbuddha.com>

Do you have kits of parts for the usbnoobie at the space. I was wondering if it would make sense to sell them and have people work on making them while hanging out.

Al




From drorex at gmail.com  Fri May 20 20:13:25 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:13:25 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Usbnoobie
In-Reply-To: <35ECD463-C6F0-4646-80F1-129B3BF64784@openbuddha.com>
References: <35ECD463-C6F0-4646-80F1-129B3BF64784@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinOK2amoBjL=S0JuCks_9+E9rZYvg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, but they aren't in individual bags. There's just 50 of one component,
50 of another, etc, so someone would have to sort them in kits first. And
plus the silkscreen missing text issue I'm not sure if I feel confident
enough to sell them to the public
On May 20, 2011 6:55 PM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Do you have kits of parts for the usbnoobie at the space. I was wondering
if it would make sense to sell them and have people work on making them
while hanging out.
>
> Al
>
>
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Fri May 20 20:45:14 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:45:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Usbnoobie
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinOK2amoBjL=S0JuCks_9+E9rZYvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <35ECD463-C6F0-4646-80F1-129B3BF64784@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinOK2amoBjL=S0JuCks_9+E9rZYvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikvuW7e_1sDCBnyKzFUgwHyv5Gv3g@mail.gmail.com>

I'll have plenty of time to sort things into discrete kits tomorrow at
the faire if you want to bring them anyway.

--
Heph

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:13 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, but they aren't in individual bags. There's just 50 of one component,
> 50 of another, etc, so someone would have to sort them in kits first. And
> plus the silkscreen missing text issue I'm not sure if I feel confident
> enough to sell them to the public
>
> On May 20, 2011 6:55 PM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> Do you have kits of parts for the usbnoobie at the space. I was wondering
>> if it would make sense to sell them and have people work on making them
>> while hanging out.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


From biff at cliffle.com  Fri May 20 21:22:06 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:22:06 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Who's bringing a car to Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=T1989COo+5rC7nBouA+fZ_MNzsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=T1989COo+5rC7nBouA+fZ_MNzsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimZa0L4u_7zPx2wm+mxe1b8ZHmgZQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
> Who else is driving to Maker Faire this weekend? I need a couple of
> sheets of foamcore board to be brought down, and we'll all need a
> little help packing stuff back to the space on Sunday.

I'm driving down Sunday and will have extra room.  I can either bring
stuff there, or help bring it back.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Fri May 20 21:56:34 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 21:56:34 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Who's bringing a car to Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=T1989COo+5rC7nBouA+fZ_MNzsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=T1989COo+5rC7nBouA+fZ_MNzsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinynQUzDWA_xWcchz5jdVJbrq-cDg@mail.gmail.com>

I will have a car on Sunday as well to help ferry people & stuff

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:

> Who else is driving to Maker Faire this weekend? I need a couple of
> sheets of foamcore board to be brought down, and we'll all need a
> little help packing stuff back to the space on Sunday.
>
> --
> Heph
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Fri May 20 22:08:24 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:08:24 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Who's bringing a car to Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinynQUzDWA_xWcchz5jdVJbrq-cDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=T1989COo+5rC7nBouA+fZ_MNzsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinynQUzDWA_xWcchz5jdVJbrq-cDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=158Lbp_17SWfDq4YkLUZt2h3uaw@mail.gmail.com>

awesome. i got my supplies, but we'll still need some stuff brought
back on sunday, so assistance will be appreciated =]

--
heph

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Sean O'Steen <sean at techmonkeydesign.com> wrote:
> I will have a car on Sunday as well to help ferry people & stuff
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
>>
>> Who else is driving to Maker Faire this weekend? I need a couple of
>> sheets of foamcore board to be brought down, and we'll all need a
>> little help packing stuff back to the space on Sunday.
>>
>> --
>> Heph
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May 20 22:40:00 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:40:00 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Who's bringing a car to Maker Faire?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimZa0L4u_7zPx2wm+mxe1b8ZHmgZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=T1989COo+5rC7nBouA+fZ_MNzsQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimZa0L4u_7zPx2wm+mxe1b8ZHmgZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <316D4023-E846-4EF6-B019-B9F72F37065E@openbuddha.com>

We should have everything there then but we'll need help bringing stuff back. I took a car load today and am bringing another bunch of stuff tomorrow morning.

Al

On May 20, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
>> Who else is driving to Maker Faire this weekend? I need a couple of
>> sheets of foamcore board to be brought down, and we'll all need a
>> little help packing stuff back to the space on Sunday.
> 
> I'm driving down Sunday and will have extra room.  I can either bring
> stuff there, or help bring it back.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May 20 22:42:14 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 22:42:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Usbnoobie
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikvuW7e_1sDCBnyKzFUgwHyv5Gv3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <35ECD463-C6F0-4646-80F1-129B3BF64784@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinOK2amoBjL=S0JuCks_9+E9rZYvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTikvuW7e_1sDCBnyKzFUgwHyv5Gv3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92E572F1-107C-41DC-B9DA-C6E7C53A2A71@openbuddha.com>

I grabbed the box of them and I'm grabbing baggies at home.

David, did you want $20 for kits?

Al

On May 20, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Hephaestus wrote:

> I'll have plenty of time to sort things into discrete kits tomorrow at
> the faire if you want to bring them anyway.
> 
> --
> Heph
> 
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:13 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, but they aren't in individual bags. There's just 50 of one component,
>> 50 of another, etc, so someone would have to sort them in kits first. And
>> plus the silkscreen missing text issue I'm not sure if I feel confident
>> enough to sell them to the public
>> 
>> On May 20, 2011 6:55 PM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>> Do you have kits of parts for the usbnoobie at the space. I was wondering
>>> if it would make sense to sell them and have people work on making them
>>> while hanging out.
>>> 
>>> Al
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
>> 



From me at robbiet.us  Fri May 20 23:01:42 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:01:42 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Usbnoobie
In-Reply-To: <92E572F1-107C-41DC-B9DA-C6E7C53A2A71@openbuddha.com>
References: <35ECD463-C6F0-4646-80F1-129B3BF64784@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinOK2amoBjL=S0JuCks_9+E9rZYvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTikvuW7e_1sDCBnyKzFUgwHyv5Gv3g@mail.gmail.com>
	<92E572F1-107C-41DC-B9DA-C6E7C53A2A71@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <DD1529AFA10D4CBAA90C0A2249D37BEE@gmail.com>

Dave is getting married in less then 24 hours.

Do you really expect him to respond? :p

I think he told me he wanted 20 though....

-- 
Robbie Trencheny

On Friday, May 20, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Al Jigen Billings wrote: 
> I grabbed the box of them and I'm grabbing baggies at home.
> 
> David, did you want $20 for kits?
> 
> Al
> 
> On May 20, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Hephaestus wrote:
> 
> > I'll have plenty of time to sort things into discrete kits tomorrow at
> > the faire if you want to bring them anyway.
> > 
> > --
> > Heph
> > 
> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:13 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yes, but they aren't in individual bags. There's just 50 of one component,
> > > 50 of another, etc, so someone would have to sort them in kits first. And
> > > plus the silkscreen missing text issue I'm not sure if I feel confident
> > > enough to sell them to the public
> > > 
> > > On May 20, 2011 6:55 PM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> > > > Do you have kits of parts for the usbnoobie at the space. I was wondering
> > > > if it would make sense to sell them and have people work on making them
> > > > while hanging out.
> > > > 
> > > > Al
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Discuss mailing list
> > > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
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From me at robbiet.us  Sat May 21 10:53:19 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:53:19 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] HELP, MAKRE FAIRE HELP NEEDED
Message-ID: <D092A0CCB72648FA94994ACD77D44D15@gmail.com>

If anyone is going by the space before coming to Maker Faire please pick up some MakerBot made things (the Ace logo etc)
-- 
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From sean at techmonkeydesign.com  Sat May 21 16:37:10 2011
From: sean at techmonkeydesign.com (Sean O'Steen)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 16:37:10 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] HELP, MAKRE FAIRE HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <D092A0CCB72648FA94994ACD77D44D15@gmail.com>
References: <D092A0CCB72648FA94994ACD77D44D15@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTik+y6-o-uzRmASUEjJ7eSqx5r0Wfg@mail.gmail.com>

Can I get a flyer tally from the volunteers today. Should I bring more
flyers tomorrow?

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

>  If anyone is going by the space before coming to Maker Faire please pick
> up some MakerBot made things (the Ace logo etc)
> --
> Robbie Trencheny
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From me at robbiet.us  Sat May 21 17:44:02 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:44:02 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] HELP, MAKRE FAIRE HELP NEEDED
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTik+y6-o-uzRmASUEjJ7eSqx5r0Wfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D092A0CCB72648FA94994ACD77D44D15@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTik+y6-o-uzRmASUEjJ7eSqx5r0Wfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4B88084E0214913B1F5031023012F39@gmail.com>

Flyers are doing fine, no more needed thanks Sean

-- 
Robbie Trencheny

On Saturday, May 21, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Sean O'Steen wrote: 
> Can I get a flyer tally from the volunteers today. Should I bring more flyers tomorrow?
> 
> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> > If anyone is going by the space before coming to Maker Faire please pick up some MakerBot made things (the Ace logo etc)
> > -- 
> > Robbie Trencheny
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> >  Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > 
> 
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From costamouratidis at hotmail.com  Sat May 21 21:59:13 2011
From: costamouratidis at hotmail.com (Costa Mouratidis)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:59:13 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] makerbot laptop
Message-ID: <SNT142-w4319099C36E67A8E5FEB9CA2730@phx.gbl>


We waited til around 830 but the space was still full. Out of uncontrollable prudence I took the sticker covered laptop home with me instead of leaving it there so don't freak out if you don't see it. I'll also bring a bunch of makerbot crap from the space and ill try to arrive by around 10.

cheers
costa
 		 	   		  
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From biff at cliffle.com  Sat May 21 22:09:56 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:09:56 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] First run of our new motion control board.
In-Reply-To: <71991F2F-C9DF-44F6-9DDD-108D2D5A2E7A@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTin2R6JP_c2Tkgkt_=Oy+rqSX58G-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<71991F2F-C9DF-44F6-9DDD-108D2D5A2E7A@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimj6Yu4mMMx8rgDBtH7YnDL+WAASg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Al Jigen BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> This is pretty sweet. Anything working to show or demo at the Maker Faire to
> promote your project?

Got a last-minute demo built.  With about $10 in components, the board
can drive 56 servos -- though I've only wired up six for tomorrow.
Which happens to be the number of servos in my biped robot.

Anton may be able to bring his three-axis positioning driver (think:
MakerBot) too.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 21 22:29:15 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:29:15 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] makerbot laptop
In-Reply-To: <SNT142-w4319099C36E67A8E5FEB9CA2730@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT142-w4319099C36E67A8E5FEB9CA2730@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A1F0862E-C726-417B-8AD3-7839769F1B04@openbuddha.com>

Okey dokey.



On May 21, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Costa Mouratidis <costamouratidis at hotmail.com> wrote:

> We waited til around 830 but the space was still full. Out of uncontrollable prudence I took the sticker covered laptop home with me instead of leaving it there so don't freak out if you don't see it. I'll also bring a bunch of makerbot crap from the space and ill try to arrive by around 10.
> 
> cheers
> costa
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 21 22:30:56 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:30:56 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] First run of our new motion control board.
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimj6Yu4mMMx8rgDBtH7YnDL+WAASg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTin2R6JP_c2Tkgkt_=Oy+rqSX58G-A@mail.gmail.com>
	<71991F2F-C9DF-44F6-9DDD-108D2D5A2E7A@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTimj6Yu4mMMx8rgDBtH7YnDL+WAASg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4307DAA6-E2C7-4FD3-B079-4D863E8A772A@openbuddha.com>

You guys rock.

I convinced Bre Pettis to let us check in gen3 mk6 support for replicatorg if the community maintains it today.

Oh, and the stepper motor on Alice is not functioning reliably with the hacked settings...

Al



On May 21, 2011, at 10:09 PM, "Cliff L. Biffle" <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Al Jigen BIllings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> This is pretty sweet. Anything working to show or demo at the Maker Faire to
>> promote your project?
> 
> Got a last-minute demo built.  With about $10 in components, the board
> can drive 56 servos -- though I've only wired up six for tomorrow.
> Which happens to be the number of servos in my biped robot.
> 
> Anton may be able to bring his three-axis positioning driver (think:
> MakerBot) too.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun May 22 20:45:55 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 20:45:55 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire
Message-ID: <87492DA5-9066-4171-BA2B-DECCC84C74EA@openbuddha.com>

I want to thank everyone for the hard work on Maker Faire, especially those people who spent hours sitting behind a table answering questions about "How does it turn pages?" and "What is a 3d printer?" I also want to thank people for splitting up all of the stuff so load out was pretty easy this evening.

I think the event was pretty successful, if completely draining.

I plan to not think about hackerspaces for a couple of days.

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun May 22 20:50:03 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 20:50:03 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Board Elections
Message-ID: <3DD6C1B2-FBCD-437D-9284-D5E1EB5AD9B7@openbuddha.com>

We're doing board elections next month (in mid-June though I have to check on the official date).

This Thursday, I'm going to open up the floor to nominations for the board and will do so each week until we do the elections. All current full members will be able to vote in elections and I expect that we will vote on provisional members before the elections happen so *current* provisional members who become full members will be able to vote. Anyone who joins in the next few weeks as a provisional member will not be within the month cut off for being eligible for being voted in.

So, think about who you want to be on the board or if you want to serve. All five seats are up for election and existing board members who express the desire to serve again are up for re-election. This is a straight forward election so nothing too weird. Once we have a new board, the board can decide whether it wants to change/replace the president, secretary, or treasurer as well since they are appointed by the board. (There is no requirement to change those officers though and they have no set terms, serving at the will of the board.)

Al



From me at robbiet.us  Sun May 22 20:55:15 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 20:55:15 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Maker Faire
In-Reply-To: <87492DA5-9066-4171-BA2B-DECCC84C74EA@openbuddha.com>
References: <87492DA5-9066-4171-BA2B-DECCC84C74EA@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <EA72A6BBD7834B538967D83DF6662B42@gmail.com>

i second everything in this email.

I just wish davr would have shown up. We really needed his help this weekend! 

Special shoutouts:
Al
Sean
Robbie (hey thats me)
Costa
Aaron
Terry
Terry's friend whose name escapes me
Mike G. 
Heph
Myles
Myles Wife, Chloe(sp?)
Daniel Reetz

(If I forgot you, my apologies, my brain is at 0.1 percent power right now)

Thanks again to everyone! It was a smashing success. We sold 2(!) book scanners, 1 set of Prusa Mendel parts. 

The #1 question was "herp derp herp how does it turn pages derp" and the second question was "derpity derp derp, whats a makerbot herp".

If I am in a picture you/someone you know took, please alert me as I want to publicize via the twitters.

Now, I am going into hibernation for the next 2 days or so. So help you flying spaghetti monster if you poke this bear. 

Secretary, signing off
-- 
Robbie Trencheny

On Sunday, May 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Al Jigen BIllings wrote: 
> I want to thank everyone for the hard work on Maker Faire, especially those people who spent hours sitting behind a table answering questions about "How does it turn pages?" and "What is a 3d printer?" I also want to thank people for splitting up all of the stuff so load out was pretty easy this evening.
> 
> I think the event was pretty successful, if completely draining.
> 
> I plan to not think about hackerspaces for a couple of days.
> 
> Al
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
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From myles at tenhand.com  Sun May 22 21:30:45 2011
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 21:30:45 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Permalink on main page?
Message-ID: <29C0D44D-5E4D-440F-A79F-149E7B25DCE9@tenhand.com>


Can someone with the appropriate fu add a permanent link from the front page to http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Category:Bookscanner ? 
I'd like to make it easy for people who want to buy a scanner to find us. 


The documentation is still crap, so anyone interested in building a kit this thursday, please let me know. I want to build a new one & take photos of a working one. 


Then I want to finish the lighting and scan a *@#$ book. 

From chriszf at gmail.com  Mon May 23 10:54:06 2011
From: chriszf at gmail.com (Christian Fernandez)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:54:06 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Python cancelled for 5/24
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=SYqbQ2wvvzcvdwiKcA7CTuGtXcw@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry guys, I have a work thing to deal with, I can't make it. See you
all next week.

--
Christian


From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 24 09:33:42 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:33:42 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Seeed studio would like to visit AMT
In-Reply-To: <4DDB3003.8060406@gmail.com>
References: <4DD31A31.3030509@xtreme.com>
	<E795BB94-D23B-4143-80CF-DD8BA189A92D@openbuddha.com>
	<4DDB3003.8060406@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37FFEA2E-0806-4C9E-A2D5-048CA115A856@openbuddha.com>

Can anyone show them around? I have Skype appointments with students of mine from 6:00 to 7:00 PM and I'm not sure if I'm free after that.

Al

On May 23, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Michael Shiloh wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> So tomorrow (Tuesday) I'm showing them around the East Bay, and we'd especially love to visit AMT.
> 
> What time is good? We can hit you earlier or later in the day.
> 
> They are interested in setting up a hacker space in their home town, and are looking to learn.
> 
> Michael
> 



From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Mon May 23 21:11:47 2011
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 21:11:47 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Seeed studio would like to visit AMT
In-Reply-To: <E795BB94-D23B-4143-80CF-DD8BA189A92D@openbuddha.com>
References: <4DD31A31.3030509@xtreme.com>
	<E795BB94-D23B-4143-80CF-DD8BA189A92D@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <4DDB3003.8060406@gmail.com>

Hey,

So tomorrow (Tuesday) I'm showing them around the East Bay, and we'd 
especially love to visit AMT.

What time is good? We can hit you earlier or later in the day.

They are interested in setting up a hacker space in their home town, and 
are looking to learn.

Michael



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 24 11:28:05 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:28:05 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06CF8381-D060-488F-9B5C-33157A43EAF5@openbuddha.com>

We need to lose three printers, an old arcade cabinet and Dr. Jesus' personal pile of unconnected servers. As for the latter, someone needs to track him down and tell him to take them or we're putting them out on the curb.

Al

On May 24, 2011, at 11:20 AM, David Rorex wrote:

> Just a quick update on laser cutter status: original date of 5/26 is when it gets to the US, long beach in particular. 6/1 is the date it was scheduled to arrive in oakland, however it is being held for an x-ray check or something? That can sometimes add a couple extra days. Either way, the back room needs to be cleared ASAP to make room for the machine. I haven't been to the space in a little while, so not sure what's there right now. I'll take a look on Thursday, and alert the list of any items that are in the way.
> 

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From emprameen at gmail.com  Tue May 24 19:22:11 2011
From: emprameen at gmail.com (Rameen)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 19:22:11 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] City of Berkeley explanation of
 why not using open source.. Open Source vs. "proprietary" software
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinY=-uM0dWcYCNqutCOHsFVUQsi2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinY=-uM0dWcYCNqutCOHsFVUQsi2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimAbJ5yPbrrDnZT+XYtSzh1KWqAuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Lots of discussion from the Noisebridge list, thought you guys might be
interested in contributing.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Asa Dodsworth <asa.dodsworth at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:02 PM
Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] City of Berkeley explanation of why not using
open source.. Open Source vs. "proprietary" software
To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>


The City Of Berkeley IT staff say that Open Source Database software wold
not be desirable, would ya'll like to assess their assessment..
I ask as I'm a rent board commissioner who has been trying to understand how
opensource software can be used to address our software needs.

asa


Hi, Jay.   Here is a brief explanation of how Open Source would play into
your project and why it wasn't considered.

*Open Source would make the task of automating the Rent Board much more
simple.
*The biggest challenge the Rent Board faces is converting a manual system
that had loosely defined business rules that were not consistently applied
into a software system that rigorously enforces business rules.  We have
agreed that there is no off-the-shelf solution that can meet the Rent
Board's needs.  As we've seen over the past year, the process of formalizing
business rules is a cultural problem rather than a technological one.  Once
we have accurately and thoroughly defined the business rules, the software
development process is essentially the same whether we choose Open Source or
proprietary tools.
*
Open Source would require less of an investment for the Rent Board.
*Since we have determined that there is no readily available off-the-shelf
solution to adequately fulfill the Rent Board's needs, the only software
required is server, web server and database software.  Since the City has an
existing Enterprise agreement with Microsoft and is using virtualization,
there is no cost to the Rent Board for server and web server software.  The
City could choose to use MySQL for a database platform, but since Oracle
acquired Sun Microsystems, MySQL Enterprise edition (required for an
enterprise application like RTS) would be roughly the same cost as SQL
Server.  Since our network engineers, database administrator and programmers
are all familiar with SQL Server and do not have MySQL experience, there
would be an additional ongoing cost to train staff and keep them educated on
two disparate database platforms.

*Open Source prevents prevents price gouging and other predatory practices
by companies like Microsoft and Oracle.*
In theory, this is correct.  The source code for Open Source software like
MySQL is published intermittently so that any developer can support the
software should the vendor's business practices take an unattractive turn.
However, a customized version of MySQL, for instance, carries other risks.
First, database design and coding is extremely specialized and not something
most programmers are familiar with.  It's possible that the 3rd party that
supports the product is not qualified to modify the code.  Secondly,
maintaining a customized version of the software is expensive and not most
vendor's core business.  It's unlikely a vendor would modify something like
a database engine or operating system unless they had very specialized needs
and experience to address those needs.  Once a vendor has modified the base
code, it could become proprietary unless they turn around an publish it,
thereby counteracting the benefit of going with Open Source in the first
place.  In terms of City staff modifying Open Source software, the cost
would be very high, we would need specialized, dedicated staff to maintain
and support the software, and the risk of the software becoming unstable
would be very high.  City programmers are competent at creating small,
specialized applications for those needs that can't be filled by commercial
software -- customizing databases and operating systems exceeds their skill
set.

*Open Source is like alternative energy -- it's the right thing to do and we
should support it or else it will never get a solid foothold.
*First acknowledging the points made above, this is a valid point.  Open
Source may be a viable option for the City in the future but it is not
currently viable.  Municipal governments typically let private enterprise
work out the kinks before taking risks on new technology.  In the past 5
years, we have slowly but steadily begun using cloud services for some
applications -- when it made sense and we could justify the risk.  If we are
to use Open Source in the future, we will approach it in the same,
deliberate way and with adequate research and preparation.


-- 
Keith Skinner
Renegade Image <http://renegadeimage.wordpress.com/>
Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Renegade-Image/150788618296324>
Berkeley Afoot <http://urbnwokker.wordpress.com>


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From drorex at gmail.com  Tue May 24 11:20:38 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:20:38 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>

Just a quick update on laser cutter status: original date of 5/26 is when it
gets to the US, long beach in particular. 6/1 is the date it was scheduled
to arrive in oakland, however it is being held for an x-ray check or
something? That can sometimes add a couple extra days. Either way, the back
room needs to be cleared ASAP to make room for the machine. I haven't been
to the space in a little while, so not sure what's there right now. I'll
take a look on Thursday, and alert the list of any items that are in the
way.
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu May 26 18:27:50 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:27:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Learn and make something new this weekend!
References: <20110527005710.4168B6AB707@70-36-235-201.dsl.static.sonic.net>
Message-ID: <5F9AEFA2-C90A-4ACC-BAE2-1ACBCAE37B59@openbuddha.com>

FYI.


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Workshop Weekend Updates" <updates at whatwillyoulearn.com>
> Date: May 26, 2011 5:57:10 PM PDT
> To: albill at openbuddha.com
> Subject: Learn and make something new this weekend!
> Reply-To: support at whatwillyoulearn.com
> 

> Hi there!
> 
> I just wanted to follow up with you to let you know that registration for Workshop Weekend -- this weekend's series of hands-on workshops taught by makers in spaces around the bay area -- is closing soon!
> 
> If you're into making into hands-on education and real-life making, then Workshop Weekend is for you!
> 
> Browse the catalog and register online at http://whatwillyoulearn.com/catalog
> 
> Grab a seat in one of our short (2-4 hour) introductory workshops and go from zero experience to sewing soft circuits, making bread, welding, casting glass or metal, building and programming an Arduino, and eating fire, among other skills open for exploration!
> 
> Here's a handful of classes that are still open:
> 
> + Sequence your own DNA
> + Aquaponics 101: Spacefarming
> + Electroluminescent Wire Workshop
> + Make a Felted Flower
> + Learn to Solder and Make Cool Things with Electronics
> + Build a Wood and Nail Breadboard Arduino/Microcontroller
> + Introduction to PCB Layout
> + Make a Jean Purse and Pom Pom Earrings
> + Build an Eggbot
> + Build a Model Marble Roller Coaster
> + Learn About Distillation
> 
> Register online at http://whatwillyoulearn.com/catalog
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions. We hope to see you there!
> 
> Gil Zamfirescu
> whatwillyoulearn.com
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From drorex at gmail.com  Thu May 26 09:48:06 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:48:06 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=rva+fmYg2cpJFn9Q9WmCha9zMRg@mail.gmail.com>

Just got the original Bill of Lading in the mail, now we are the official
owners of the laser cutter! (well...technically of whatever happens to be in
the crate, which I'm pretty confident is the laser cutter)

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just a quick update on laser cutter status: original date of 5/26 is when
> it gets to the US, long beach in particular. 6/1 is the date it was
> scheduled to arrive in oakland, however it is being held for an x-ray check
> or something? That can sometimes add a couple extra days. Either way, the
> back room needs to be cleared ASAP to make room for the machine. I haven't
> been to the space in a little while, so not sure what's there right now.
> I'll take a look on Thursday, and alert the list of any items that are in
> the way.
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Thu May 26 20:28:58 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 20:28:58 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Clearing space for the laser cutter
Message-ID: <BANLkTikwiBaqRg9ULB8S8zoSAdx1Tyjt6Q@mail.gmail.com>

So laser cutter is coming very soon (current estimate is two weeks from
yesterday, or wens 6/8). There's a bunch of junk in the back room where the
laser is planned to go, I have cataloged it all on the wiki.

What I need is for everyone to claim things that either belong to them, or
that belong to AMT but that you are willing to handle that item.

Please see this page for all the items, read the instructions, put your name
next to things you'll handle:

http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Laser_Cutter/Buildout

If anything doesn't get handled by next week's meeting, we are going to take
it upon ourselves to handle it, which may include taking it outside and
setting it on fire, so double-check the list!

-David
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Fri May 27 10:29:16 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:29:16 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <06CF8381-D060-488F-9B5C-33157A43EAF5@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BANLkTikfRVP3oB7irqYjJ_twhuebydp9Wg@mail.gmail.com>

How are we planning on getting the laser into our space? Have we
confirmed it will fit through the hallways? Do we need to rent a
pallet jack? Will we have access to the loading dock? Someone
mentioned renting a uhaul, but those have too low a deck height to use
a standard loading dock, so we might need to have it freight-dropped
to the building directly.

--
Heph

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Al Jigen Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> We need to lose three printers, an old arcade cabinet and Dr. Jesus'
> personal pile of unconnected servers. As for the latter, someone needs to
> track him down and tell him to take them or we're putting them out on the
> curb.
> Al
>
> On May 24, 2011, at 11:20 AM, David Rorex wrote:
>
> Just a quick update on laser cutter status: original date of 5/26 is when it
> gets to the US, long beach in particular. 6/1 is the date it was scheduled
> to arrive in oakland, however it is being held for an x-ray check or
> something? That can sometimes add a couple extra days. Either way, the back
> room needs to be cleared ASAP to make room for the machine. I haven't been
> to the space in a little while, so not sure what's there right now. I'll
> take a look on Thursday, and alert the list of any items that are in the
> way.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


From danreetz at gmail.com  Fri May 27 09:51:35 2011
From: danreetz at gmail.com (Daniel Reetz)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:51:35 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <06CF8381-D060-488F-9B5C-33157A43EAF5@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
	<06CF8381-D060-488F-9B5C-33157A43EAF5@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=Yvno9uUSVsUB6a5wC5g=yATLXyw@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be up in the area ASAP, possibly as soon as Monday or Tuesday,
and I am interested in hauling away your printers if you don't want
them.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Al Jigen Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> We need to lose three printers, an old arcade cabinet and Dr. Jesus'
> personal pile of unconnected servers. As for the latter, someone needs to
> track him down and tell him to take them or we're putting them out on the
> curb.
> Al
>
> On May 24, 2011, at 11:20 AM, David Rorex wrote:
>
> Just a quick update on laser cutter status: original date of 5/26 is when it
> gets to the US, long beach in particular. 6/1 is the date it was scheduled
> to arrive in oakland, however it is being held for an x-ray check or
> something? That can sometimes add a couple extra days. Either way, the back
> room needs to be cleared ASAP to make room for the machine. I haven't been
> to the space in a little while, so not sure what's there right now. I'll
> take a look on Thursday, and alert the list of any items that are in the
> way.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May 27 10:45:31 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:45:31 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=Yvno9uUSVsUB6a5wC5g=yATLXyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
	<06CF8381-D060-488F-9B5C-33157A43EAF5@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTi=Yvno9uUSVsUB6a5wC5g=yATLXyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DDFE33B.9090004@openbuddha.com>

On 5/27/11 9:51 AM, Daniel Reetz wrote:
> I'll be up in the area ASAP, possibly as soon as Monday or Tuesday,
> and I am interested in hauling away your printers if you don't want
> them.

Praise Jesus.

Al



From drorex at gmail.com  Fri May 27 09:56:36 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:56:36 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Seeed studio would like to visit AMT
In-Reply-To: <4DDB3003.8060406@gmail.com>
References: <4DD31A31.3030509@xtreme.com>
	<E795BB94-D23B-4143-80CF-DD8BA189A92D@openbuddha.com>
	<4DDB3003.8060406@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimHnK_PG-tUfLFG+yzNdNf-XL65rw@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for lack of responses, our mailing list was down for a couple days. If
it's not too late, I'm sure someone would be happy to show them around
(seeeeedstudio is cool), but if it is, give them our apologies.

-David R

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> So tomorrow (Tuesday) I'm showing them around the East Bay, and we'd
> especially love to visit AMT.
>
> What time is good? We can hit you earlier or later in the day.
>
> They are interested in setting up a hacker space in their home town, and
> are looking to learn.
>
> Michael
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri May 27 10:47:27 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:47:27 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikfRVP3oB7irqYjJ_twhuebydp9Wg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
	<06CF8381-D060-488F-9B5C-33157A43EAF5@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTikfRVP3oB7irqYjJ_twhuebydp9Wg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DDFE3AF.2050806@openbuddha.com>

On 5/27/11 10:29 AM, Hephaestus wrote:
> How are we planning on getting the laser into our space? Have we
> confirmed it will fit through the hallways? Do we need to rent a
> pallet jack? Will we have access to the loading dock? Someone
> mentioned renting a uhaul, but those have too low a deck height to use
> a standard loading dock, so we might need to have it freight-dropped
> to the building directly.
If only you were there for the discussion of this at the weekly meeting 
last night... :-)  We spoke about this for 10 or 15 minutes.

We have to rent a truck with a hydralic lift. Specific suggestions were 
made.

We ALWAYS have access to the loading dock. We just need to open it from 
the inside.

As to it fitting down the hallways, I assume (ha ha) that someone who 
knows the object size checked but I can't imagine it wouldn't fit. The 
only thing that has had an issue is the entire shopbot table, which is 
*much* larger than the laser.

Al


From me at robbiet.us  Sat May 28 15:24:41 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 15:24:41 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] test message
Message-ID: <7D7C49D91E614DC580D710348BC130A2@gmail.com>

disregard if this goes through

-- 
Robbie Trencheny

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From romanian at gmail.com  Sat May 28 15:55:55 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 15:55:55 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] test message
In-Reply-To: <7D7C49D91E614DC580D710348BC130A2@gmail.com>
References: <7D7C49D91E614DC580D710348BC130A2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <679D2599-4C3C-4200-9DEC-BF4D567CCEFE@gmail.com>

I am disregarding. Is my disregarding working?

On May 28, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

> disregard if this goes through
> 
> -- 
> Robbie Trencheny
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 28 12:05:32 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 12:05:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Flickr Group
Message-ID: <6A08EDF4-2623-4761-A852-508345EF667B@openbuddha.com>

We have a flickr group for AMT now.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/acemonstertoys/

Go add photos, please.

Al



From me at robbiet.us  Sat May 28 15:56:09 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 15:56:09 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] test message
In-Reply-To: <679D2599-4C3C-4200-9DEC-BF4D567CCEFE@gmail.com>
References: <7D7C49D91E614DC580D710348BC130A2@gmail.com>
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Congratuations it is!

-- 
Robbie Trencheny


On Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:

> I am disregarding. Is my disregarding working?
> 
> On May 28, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us (mailto:me at robbiet.us)> wrote:
> 
> > disregard if this goes through
> > 
> > -- 
> > Robbie Trencheny
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org (mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org)
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 28 14:08:59 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 14:08:59 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Weekly Meeting Page
Message-ID: <8985991A-C221-4667-8253-37E50A5F4C47@openbuddha.com>

I've also created a new weekly meeting page since the link on the Drupal site always went to a page that list no meetings.

http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Weekly_meeting

I've edited the Welcome text on the main site to link to it and the address link to not 404 but to show Google maps.

Al



From romanian at gmail.com  Sat May 28 15:18:15 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 15:18:15 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=Yvno9uUSVsUB6a5wC5g=yATLXyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
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The printers downstairs all turn on. None have toner cartridges and the two of a kind are also missing some paper handling module.

As far as other stuff, I have a single box labelled with my name and possibly some boat components that will be gone before the laser arrives.

Stefan

On May 27, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Daniel Reetz <danreetz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll be up in the area ASAP, possibly as soon as Monday or Tuesday,
> and I am interested in hauling away your printers if you don't want
> them.
> 
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Al Jigen Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> We need to lose three printers, an old arcade cabinet and Dr. Jesus'
>> personal pile of unconnected servers. As for the latter, someone needs to
>> track him down and tell him to take them or we're putting them out on the
>> curb.
>> Al
>> 
>> On May 24, 2011, at 11:20 AM, David Rorex wrote:
>> 
>> Just a quick update on laser cutter status: original date of 5/26 is when it
>> gets to the US, long beach in particular. 6/1 is the date it was scheduled
>> to arrive in oakland, however it is being held for an x-ray check or
>> something? That can sometimes add a couple extra days. Either way, the back
>> room needs to be cleared ASAP to make room for the machine. I haven't been
>> to the space in a little while, so not sure what's there right now. I'll
>> take a look on Thursday, and alert the list of any items that are in the
>> way.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Sat May 28 16:19:01 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:19:01 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <AB0A10BC-78D6-44E3-8E07-B2C29D28091B@gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
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We should get one (and only one) of those laser printers working and
installed upstairs. can't we get bulk laser toner and refill, or do we
need to drop $80 on a new cartridge? in any case, it'd be fantastic to
have a good laser printer functioning at the space for circuit board
transfers and such, so I'll throw down some cash towards making it
work.

I also have a small box of materials in that room that, if I don't
turn into a shitload of bubble lights in the next week, can go into
the garbage =(

--
Heph

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> The printers downstairs all turn on. None have toner cartridges and the two of a kind are also missing some paper handling module.
>
> As far as other stuff, I have a single box labelled with my name and possibly some boat components that will be gone before the laser arrives.
>
> Stefan
>
> On May 27, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Daniel Reetz <danreetz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll be up in the area ASAP, possibly as soon as Monday or Tuesday,
>> and I am interested in hauling away your printers if you don't want
>> them.
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Al Jigen Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>> We need to lose three printers, an old arcade cabinet and Dr. Jesus'
>>> personal pile of unconnected servers. As for the latter, someone needs to
>>> track him down and tell him to take them or we're putting them out on the
>>> curb.
>>> Al
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2011, at 11:20 AM, David Rorex wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a quick update on laser cutter status: original date of 5/26 is when it
>>> gets to the US, long beach in particular. 6/1 is the date it was scheduled
>>> to arrive in oakland, however it is being held for an x-ray check or
>>> something? That can sometimes add a couple extra days. Either way, the back
>>> room needs to be cleared ASAP to make room for the machine. I haven't been
>>> to the space in a little while, so not sure what's there right now. I'll
>>> take a look on Thursday, and alert the list of any items that are in the
>>> way.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 28 13:46:23 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 13:46:23 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Page
Message-ID: <052972BA-6CEC-4F1D-B33D-74E81042075C@openbuddha.com>

I've done a bunch of editing on the laser page, uploaded the laser manual, added some sub-pages, etc.

http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Laser_Cutter

Al



From drorex at gmail.com  Sat May 28 16:57:48 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:57:48 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinMrU5eJXMx=B7en1qwyXPXBANRaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BANLkTi=Yvno9uUSVsUB6a5wC5g=yATLXyw@mail.gmail.com>
	<AB0A10BC-78D6-44E3-8E07-B2C29D28091B@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <BANLkTim151jGt1XyG15c1evHCpgy4DmrQA@mail.gmail.com>

I ordered a $38 off-brand toner replacement (official ones are like $200).
Hopefully all it needs is toner, I'll have it in time for next week's
meeting.

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:

> We should get one (and only one) of those laser printers working and
> installed upstairs. can't we get bulk laser toner and refill, or do we
> need to drop $80 on a new cartridge? in any case, it'd be fantastic to
> have a good laser printer functioning at the space for circuit board
> transfers and such, so I'll throw down some cash towards making it
> work.
>
> I also have a small box of materials in that room that, if I don't
> turn into a shitload of bubble lights in the next week, can go into
> the garbage =(
>
> --
> Heph
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The printers downstairs all turn on. None have toner cartridges and the
> two of a kind are also missing some paper handling module.
> >
> > As far as other stuff, I have a single box labelled with my name and
> possibly some boat components that will be gone before the laser arrives.
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > On May 27, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Daniel Reetz <danreetz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'll be up in the area ASAP, possibly as soon as Monday or Tuesday,
> >> and I am interested in hauling away your printers if you don't want
> >> them.
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Al Jigen Billings
> >> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> >>> We need to lose three printers, an old arcade cabinet and Dr. Jesus'
> >>> personal pile of unconnected servers. As for the latter, someone needs
> to
> >>> track him down and tell him to take them or we're putting them out on
> the
> >>> curb.
> >>> Al
> >>>
> >>> On May 24, 2011, at 11:20 AM, David Rorex wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just a quick update on laser cutter status: original date of 5/26 is
> when it
> >>> gets to the US, long beach in particular. 6/1 is the date it was
> scheduled
> >>> to arrive in oakland, however it is being held for an x-ray check or
> >>> something? That can sometimes add a couple extra days. Either way, the
> back
> >>> room needs to be cleared ASAP to make room for the machine. I haven't
> been
> >>> to the space in a little while, so not sure what's there right now.
> I'll
> >>> take a look on Thursday, and alert the list of any items that are in
> the
> >>> way.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Discuss mailing list
> >>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> >>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >>>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Discuss mailing list
> >> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> >> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Fri May 27 13:00:13 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:00:13 -0500
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <4DDFE3AF.2050806@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
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Lewis rents truck and pallet jack.
On May 27, 2011 10:47 AM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> On 5/27/11 10:29 AM, Hephaestus wrote:
>> How are we planning on getting the laser into our space? Have we
>> confirmed it will fit through the hallways? Do we need to rent a
>> pallet jack? Will we have access to the loading dock? Someone
>> mentioned renting a uhaul, but those have too low a deck height to use
>> a standard loading dock, so we might need to have it freight-dropped
>> to the building directly.
> If only you were there for the discussion of this at the weekly meeting
> last night... :-) We spoke about this for 10 or 15 minutes.
>
> We have to rent a truck with a hydralic lift. Specific suggestions were
> made.
>
> We ALWAYS have access to the loading dock. We just need to open it from
> the inside.
>
> As to it fitting down the hallways, I assume (ha ha) that someone who
> knows the object size checked but I can't imagine it wouldn't fit. The
> only thing that has had an issue is the entire shopbot table, which is
> *much* larger than the laser.
>
> Al
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From drorex at gmail.com  Fri May 27 13:07:29 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:07:29 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status - moving it into place
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=kmnNo7uMFuiqLYPVE4OBJGhi2dQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here's what the guy who bought the same exact model as us said about moving
it:

   As far as moving it, we had a large enclosed trailer, and a forklift
loaded it into the trailer at the warehouse. Then we used the crating to
make a ramp for the 4" difference into my building and lifted up the feet in
the crate and rolled it right into my shop with 4 people (the machine is on
feet that lift up and down, along with casters) If you can, renting a box
truck with a liftgate would make life extremely easy if you have to bring it
down to ground level, but if you have a building with a loading dock then
you'd be set with a regular u-haul truck, but it won't fit in the back of a
pickup truck.
He said if we have a loading dock (we do), then you don't even need a lift
gate on the truck. And it's got wheels, so we can just roll it off the
truck, we don't need the pallet jack thingie to move it.

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lewis rents truck and pallet jack.
> On May 27, 2011 10:47 AM, "Al Jigen Billings" <albill at openbuddha.com>
> wrote:
> > On 5/27/11 10:29 AM, Hephaestus wrote:
> >> How are we planning on getting the laser into our space? Have we
> >> confirmed it will fit through the hallways? Do we need to rent a
> >> pallet jack? Will we have access to the loading dock? Someone
> >> mentioned renting a uhaul, but those have too low a deck height to use
> >> a standard loading dock, so we might need to have it freight-dropped
> >> to the building directly.
> > If only you were there for the discussion of this at the weekly meeting
> > last night... :-) We spoke about this for 10 or 15 minutes.
> >
> > We have to rent a truck with a hydralic lift. Specific suggestions were
> > made.
> >
> > We ALWAYS have access to the loading dock. We just need to open it from
> > the inside.
> >
> > As to it fitting down the hallways, I assume (ha ha) that someone who
> > knows the object size checked but I can't imagine it wouldn't fit. The
> > only thing that has had an issue is the entire shopbot table, which is
> > *much* larger than the laser.
> >
> > Al
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 28 18:10:19 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 18:10:19 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Board elections
Message-ID: <08608D50-AF79-41BD-B54F-E323DB772AAE@openbuddha.com>

We're electing a new board at the June member meeting (whose date escapes me).

So far, as I remember, the following people have been nominated for board election:
Christian
David Rorex
Robbie
Al (me)

Mike has declined a nomination to serve again when offered.

We will be taking nominations at the Thursday meetings until the election. We will also be voting in provisional members (list?) before we do the board election that night as well.

After the election, the board may change the other officers at their whim.

Al




From biff at cliffle.com  Sat May 28 18:53:12 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 18:53:12 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinMrU5eJXMx=B7en1qwyXPXBANRaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BANLkTi=Yvno9uUSVsUB6a5wC5g=yATLXyw@mail.gmail.com>
	<AB0A10BC-78D6-44E3-8E07-B2C29D28091B@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinMrU5eJXMx=B7en1qwyXPXBANRaw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:

> in any case, it'd be fantastic to
> have a good laser printer functioning at the space for circuit board
> transfers and such,


Yes.  The printers we have are *perfect* for this.  (I own a Brother laser
printer, which is about the only consumer laser that *doesn't* work for
toner transfer.)

They'll also print a mean transparency for photoetching.

Let me know if you need any help/cash.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/
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From me at robbiet.us  Sat May 28 18:59:10 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 18:59:10 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimYk36SzzZPhsTW_Vsx8Gj7jXFV2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
	<06CF8381-D060-488F-9B5C-33157A43EAF5@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTi=Yvno9uUSVsUB6a5wC5g=yATLXyw@mail.gmail.com>
	<AB0A10BC-78D6-44E3-8E07-B2C29D28091B@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinMrU5eJXMx=B7en1qwyXPXBANRaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimYk36SzzZPhsTW_Vsx8Gj7jXFV2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimd8qjHsOpr5RgSxZ=JB6ARhqhmcA@mail.gmail.com>

We also need to figure out who will be driving the truck to the dock
and from there to the space and then who will be on hand at the space
to offload it from the truck. I am guessing we will need 5-10 people
on the safe side.

I'll drive the truck :)

On Saturday, May 28, 2011, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
>
> in any case, it'd be fantastic to
> have a good laser printer functioning at the space for circuit board
> transfers and such,
> Yes. ?The printers we have are perfect?for this. ?(I own a Brother laser printer, which is about the only consumer laser that doesn't?work for toner transfer.)
>
> They'll also print a mean transparency for photoetching.
> Let me know if you need any help/cash.
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>

-- 
Robbie Trencheny
PHP/MySQL, HTML, CSS Developer
925.884.3728
www.robbiet.us

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From romanian at gmail.com  Sat May 28 19:11:18 2011
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 19:11:18 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Laser Status
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimd8qjHsOpr5RgSxZ=JB6ARhqhmcA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinM8WvA9OneeB7quYa+Vqh9zaiZVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTi=mStUBdPKnr0gQrLALdw5nHJQUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTin7iFfNu-wo=RFa8-5sAs8vVwA16w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BANLkTi=Yvno9uUSVsUB6a5wC5g=yATLXyw@mail.gmail.com>
	<AB0A10BC-78D6-44E3-8E07-B2C29D28091B@gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinMrU5eJXMx=B7en1qwyXPXBANRaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimYk36SzzZPhsTW_Vsx8Gj7jXFV2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimd8qjHsOpr5RgSxZ=JB6ARhqhmcA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93910374-1189-4115-B8BD-076E7DAFF7B1@gmail.com>

You can't even RENT a truck :P

I'll help out, no worries. I can also take care of truck, pallet jack rental

On May 28, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

> We also need to figure out who will be driving the truck to the dock
> and from there to the space and then who will be on hand at the space
> to offload it from the truck. I am guessing we will need 5-10 people
> on the safe side.
> 
> I'll drive the truck :)
> 
> On Saturday, May 28, 2011, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
>> 
>> in any case, it'd be fantastic to
>> have a good laser printer functioning at the space for circuit board
>> transfers and such,
>> Yes.  The printers we have are perfect for this.  (I own a Brother laser printer, which is about the only consumer laser that doesn't work for toner transfer.)
>> 
>> They'll also print a mean transparency for photoetching.
>> Let me know if you need any help/cash.
>> --
>> Cliff L. Biffle
>> http://cliffle.com/
>> 
> 
> -- 
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> 925.884.3728
> www.robbiet.us
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From slick at rebelbase.com  Fri May 27 14:40:41 2011
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:40:41 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] City of Berkeley explanation
 of why not using open source.. Open Source vs. "proprietary" software
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimAbJ5yPbrrDnZT+XYtSzh1KWqAuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinY=-uM0dWcYCNqutCOHsFVUQsi2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimAbJ5yPbrrDnZT+XYtSzh1KWqAuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinGAtzG6d3pGbXYH+_A5GGzo1f+dQ@mail.gmail.com>

Well, who ever was in charge of "researching" this issue is horribly
uninformed. The only valid argument listed for not using OS is that they
already have access to and staff trained on MSSQL. That itself is a
sufficient reason barring some mandate to initiate a move towards open
source to stick with what they have.

The idea that formalizing business rules is a cultural problem is silly.
Being a govt organization, formalized business rules must comply with crazy
amounts of laws and regulations, else they risk getting sued into oblivion.
Before they start building a system they need to hire some analysts who know
WTF they are doing. They might consider looking at other govt agencies as
examples and stop just pulling shit out of their asses.



On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Rameen <emprameen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lots of discussion from the Noisebridge list, thought you guys might be
> interested in contributing.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Asa Dodsworth <asa.dodsworth at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:02 PM
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] City of Berkeley explanation of why not
> using open source.. Open Source vs. "proprietary" software
> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>
>
> The City Of Berkeley IT staff say that Open Source Database software wold
> not be desirable, would ya'll like to assess their assessment..
> I ask as I'm a rent board commissioner who has been trying to understand
> how opensource software can be used to address our software needs.
>
> asa
>
>
> Hi, Jay.   Here is a brief explanation of how Open Source would play into
> your project and why it wasn't considered.
>
> *Open Source would make the task of automating the Rent Board much more
> simple.
> *The biggest challenge the Rent Board faces is converting a manual system
> that had loosely defined business rules that were not consistently applied
> into a software system that rigorously enforces business rules.  We have
> agreed that there is no off-the-shelf solution that can meet the Rent
> Board's needs.  As we've seen over the past year, the process of formalizing
> business rules is a cultural problem rather than a technological one.  Once
> we have accurately and thoroughly defined the business rules, the software
> development process is essentially the same whether we choose Open Source or
> proprietary tools.
> *
> Open Source would require less of an investment for the Rent Board.
> *Since we have determined that there is no readily available off-the-shelf
> solution to adequately fulfill the Rent Board's needs, the only software
> required is server, web server and database software.  Since the City has an
> existing Enterprise agreement with Microsoft and is using virtualization,
> there is no cost to the Rent Board for server and web server software.  The
> City could choose to use MySQL for a database platform, but since Oracle
> acquired Sun Microsystems, MySQL Enterprise edition (required for an
> enterprise application like RTS) would be roughly the same cost as SQL
> Server.  Since our network engineers, database administrator and programmers
> are all familiar with SQL Server and do not have MySQL experience, there
> would be an additional ongoing cost to train staff and keep them educated on
> two disparate database platforms.
>
> *Open Source prevents prevents price gouging and other predatory practices
> by companies like Microsoft and Oracle.*
> In theory, this is correct.  The source code for Open Source software like
> MySQL is published intermittently so that any developer can support the
> software should the vendor's business practices take an unattractive turn.
> However, a customized version of MySQL, for instance, carries other risks.
> First, database design and coding is extremely specialized and not something
> most programmers are familiar with.  It's possible that the 3rd party that
> supports the product is not qualified to modify the code.  Secondly,
> maintaining a customized version of the software is expensive and not most
> vendor's core business.  It's unlikely a vendor would modify something like
> a database engine or operating system unless they had very specialized needs
> and experience to address those needs.  Once a vendor has modified the base
> code, it could become proprietary unless they turn around an publish it,
> thereby counteracting the benefit of going with Open Source in the first
> place.  In terms of City staff modifying Open Source software, the cost
> would be very high, we would need specialized, dedicated staff to maintain
> and support the software, and the risk of the software becoming unstable
> would be very high.  City programmers are competent at creating small,
> specialized applications for those needs that can't be filled by commercial
> software -- customizing databases and operating systems exceeds their skill
> set.
>
> *Open Source is like alternative energy -- it's the right thing to do and
> we should support it or else it will never get a solid foothold.
> *First acknowledging the points made above, this is a valid point.  Open
> Source may be a viable option for the City in the future but it is not
> currently viable.  Municipal governments typically let private enterprise
> work out the kinks before taking risks on new technology.  In the past 5
> years, we have slowly but steadily begun using cloud services for some
> applications -- when it made sense and we could justify the risk.  If we are
> to use Open Source in the future, we will approach it in the same,
> deliberate way and with adequate research and preparation.
>
>
> --
> Keith Skinner
> Renegade Image <http://renegadeimage.wordpress.com/>
> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Renegade-Image/150788618296324>
> Berkeley Afoot <http://urbnwokker.wordpress.com>
>
>
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From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Sat May 28 20:06:01 2011
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:06:01 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] test message
In-Reply-To: <679D2599-4C3C-4200-9DEC-BF4D567CCEFE@gmail.com>
References: <7D7C49D91E614DC580D710348BC130A2@gmail.com>
	<679D2599-4C3C-4200-9DEC-BF4D567CCEFE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DE1B819.3030300@gmail.com>

Can't tell. I'm disregarding your question.

On 05/28/2011 03:55 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> I am disregarding. Is my disregarding working?
>
> On May 28, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Robbie Trencheny<me at robbiet.us>  wrote:
>
>> disregard if this goes through
>>
>> --
>> Robbie Trencheny
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat May 28 20:14:07 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:14:07 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] City of Berkeley explanation
	of why not using open source.. Open Source vs. "proprietary"
	software
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinGAtzG6d3pGbXYH+_A5GGzo1f+dQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinY=-uM0dWcYCNqutCOHsFVUQsi2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimAbJ5yPbrrDnZT+XYtSzh1KWqAuQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinGAtzG6d3pGbXYH+_A5GGzo1f+dQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FC537A90-A190-42C6-A588-A391BAD6FBBB@openbuddha.com>

No no, Aaron, tell us what you really think!!



On May 27, 2011, at 2:40 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:

> Well, who ever was in charge of "researching" this issue is horribly uninformed. The only valid argument listed for not using OS is that they already have access to and staff trained on MSSQL. That itself is a sufficient reason barring some mandate to initiate a move towards open source to stick with what they have.  
> 
> The idea that formalizing business rules is a cultural problem is silly.  Being a govt organization, formalized business rules must comply with crazy amounts of laws and regulations, else they risk getting sued into oblivion.  Before they start building a system they need to hire some analysts who know WTF they are doing. They might consider looking at other govt agencies as examples and stop just pulling shit out of their asses.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Rameen <emprameen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lots of discussion from the Noisebridge list, thought you guys might be interested in contributing. 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Asa Dodsworth <asa.dodsworth at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:02 PM
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] City of Berkeley explanation of why not using open source.. Open Source vs. "proprietary" software
> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> 
> 
> The City Of Berkeley IT staff say that Open Source Database software wold not be desirable, would ya'll like to assess their assessment..
> I ask as I'm a rent board commissioner who has been trying to understand how opensource software can be used to address our software needs.
> 
> asa
> 
> 
> Hi, Jay.   Here is a brief explanation of how Open Source would play into your project and why it wasn't considered.
> 
> Open Source would make the task of automating the Rent Board much more simple.
> The biggest challenge the Rent Board faces is converting a manual system that had loosely defined business rules that were not consistently applied into a software system that rigorously enforces business rules.  We have agreed that there is no off-the-shelf solution that can meet the Rent Board's needs.  As we've seen over the past year, the process of formalizing business rules is a cultural problem rather than a technological one.  Once we have accurately and thoroughly defined the business rules, the software development process is essentially the same whether we choose Open Source or proprietary tools.
> 
> Open Source would require less of an investment for the Rent Board.
> Since we have determined that there is no readily available off-the-shelf solution to adequately fulfill the Rent Board's needs, the only software required is server, web server and database software.  Since the City has an existing Enterprise agreement with Microsoft and is using virtualization, there is no cost to the Rent Board for server and web server software.  The City could choose to use MySQL for a database platform, but since Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems, MySQL Enterprise edition (required for an enterprise application like RTS) would be roughly the same cost as SQL Server.  Since our network engineers, database administrator and programmers are all familiar with SQL Server and do not have MySQL experience, there would be an additional ongoing cost to train staff and keep them educated on two disparate database platforms.  
> 
> Open Source prevents prevents price gouging and other predatory practices by companies like Microsoft and Oracle.
> In theory, this is correct.  The source code for Open Source software like MySQL is published intermittently so that any developer can support the software should the vendor's business practices take an unattractive turn.  However, a customized version of MySQL, for instance, carries other risks.  First, database design and coding is extremely specialized and not something most programmers are familiar with.  It's possible that the 3rd party that supports the product is not qualified to modify the code.  Secondly, maintaining a customized version of the software is expensive and not most vendor's core business.  It's unlikely a vendor would modify something like a database engine or operating system unless they had very specialized needs and experience to address those needs.  Once a vendor has modified the base code, it could become proprietary unless they turn around an publish it, thereby counteracting the benefit of going with Open Source in the first place.  In terms of City staff modifying Open Source software, the cost would be very high, we would need specialized, dedicated staff to maintain and support the software, and the risk of the software becoming unstable would be very high.  City programmers are competent at creating small, specialized applications for those needs that can't be filled by commercial software -- customizing databases and operating systems exceeds their skill set.
> 
> Open Source is like alternative energy -- it's the right thing to do and we should support it or else it will never get a solid foothold.
> First acknowledging the points made above, this is a valid point.  Open Source may be a viable option for the City in the future but it is not currently viable.  Municipal governments typically let private enterprise work out the kinks before taking risks on new technology.  In the past 5 years, we have slowly but steadily begun using cloud services for some applications -- when it made sense and we could justify the risk.  If we are to use Open Source in the future, we will approach it in the same, deliberate way and with adequate research and preparation.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Keith Skinner
> Renegade Image 
> Facebook 
> Berkeley Afoot
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list
> Noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
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From biff at cliffle.com  Sat May 28 20:30:14 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:30:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] City of Berkeley explanation
 of why not using open source.. Open Source vs. "proprietary" software
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinGAtzG6d3pGbXYH+_A5GGzo1f+dQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTinY=-uM0dWcYCNqutCOHsFVUQsi2g@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimAbJ5yPbrrDnZT+XYtSzh1KWqAuQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTinGAtzG6d3pGbXYH+_A5GGzo1f+dQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikfV=gV3a=AjiEU4a_NdLj4ksKODQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:40 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:

> The only valid argument listed for not using OS is that they already have
> access to and staff trained on MSSQL. That itself is a sufficient reason
> barring some mandate to initiate a move towards open source to stick with
> what they have.
>

Yeah, for this reason I stopped thinking about it.  The reasoning is faulty,
but I'm not sure I disagree with their conclusion.

-- 
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http://cliffle.com/
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From biff at cliffle.com  Mon May 30 12:06:50 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:06:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
Message-ID: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone planning on being in the space today?  Was thinking of swinging by
and taking a look at them MakerBots.

-- 
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http://cliffle.com/
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May 30 12:13:49 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:13:49 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1B3859B-DE97-45E9-AFB7-BB202F0BA668@openbuddha.com>

I could easily head over for a couple of hours, especially for makerbot poking.

12:45?

On May 30, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> Anyone planning on being in the space today?  Was thinking of swinging by and taking a look at them MakerBots.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From biff at cliffle.com  Mon May 30 12:32:12 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:32:12 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <C1B3859B-DE97-45E9-AFB7-BB202F0BA668@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1B3859B-DE97-45E9-AFB7-BB202F0BA668@openbuddha.com>
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On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Al Jigen BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> I could easily head over for a couple of hours, especially for makerbot
> poking.
>
> 12:45?
>

It'll have to be later on for me, got chores to finish. :-)  Certainly no
earlier than 2 or 3.

-- 
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May 30 12:34:14 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen BIllings)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:34:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinWWBvc7=64+6xsgZOtCoqxyD16Dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1B3859B-DE97-45E9-AFB7-BB202F0BA668@openbuddha.com>
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Message-ID: <BC613339-6779-4A6E-925C-816B77351158@openbuddha.com>

I can do 2 or 3. I need to go do some stuff with my spouse at some point as well so we should set a time. :-)

3:00?

On May 30, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> I could easily head over for a couple of hours, especially for makerbot poking.
> 
> 12:45?
> 
> It'll have to be later on for me, got chores to finish. :-)  Certainly no earlier than 2 or 3.
>  
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/

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From biff at cliffle.com  Mon May 30 12:39:07 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:39:07 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <BC613339-6779-4A6E-925C-816B77351158@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Al Jigen BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> I can do 2 or 3. I need to go do some stuff with my spouse at some point as
> well so we should set a time. :-)
>
> 3:00?
>

Sounds good.

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From me at robbiet.us  Mon May 30 12:43:54 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:43:54 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinh6PjqyV-r6bjNqbWDQnq28UaD2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1B3859B-DE97-45E9-AFB7-BB202F0BA668@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinWWBvc7=64+6xsgZOtCoqxyD16Dw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0FE0DCC196D34856842E98C2A3EAE1AF@gmail.com>

I may just join you... that is if someone can pick me up from Ashby BART around that time...

-- 
Robbie Trencheny


On Monday, May 30, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com (mailto:albill at openbuddha.com)> wrote:
> > I can do 2 or 3. I need to go do some stuff with my spouse at some point as well so we should set a time. :-)
> > 
> > 3:00?
> 
> Sounds good. 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
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From whogivesajack at gmail.com  Mon May 30 14:36:49 2011
From: whogivesajack at gmail.com (Chi)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 14:36:49 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <0FE0DCC196D34856842E98C2A3EAE1AF@gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BC613339-6779-4A6E-925C-816B77351158@openbuddha.com>
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I believe one MakerBot is with Mike G.

Chi



On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

>  I may just join you... that is if someone can pick me up from Ashby BART
> around that time...
>
> --
> Robbie Trencheny
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Al Jigen BIllings <albill at openbuddha.com
> > wrote:
>
> I can do 2 or 3. I need to go do some stuff with my spouse at some point as
> well so we should set a time. :-)
>
> 3:00?
>
>
> Sounds good.
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From biff at cliffle.com  Mon May 30 18:14:56 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 18:14:56 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTik0R7Q_FkBVdSEp4dss=ukGuLjsxA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Chi <whogivesajack at gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe one MakerBot is with Mike G.
>

All makerbots are accounted for.

-- 
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http://cliffle.com/
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May 30 18:34:24 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 18:34:24 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=UZREHwJUVbFEHyjAkFciw8RNZBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C1B3859B-DE97-45E9-AFB7-BB202F0BA668@openbuddha.com>
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With a bit of love from Cliff and a trip to Home Depot for some bolts, Alice is working fine now. She needs to be leveled and such before anyone prints but we tightened up the lose Y belt and reassembled the carriage in it.

Next step are wobble arrestors, mechanical end stops (we have a kit for each makerbot now), and the heated build platform.

Al

On May 30, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Chi <whogivesajack at gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe one MakerBot is with Mike G. 
> 
> All makerbots are accounted for.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From biff at cliffle.com  Mon May 30 18:35:48 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 18:35:48 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Memorial Day
In-Reply-To: <BFC0DE05-E5C3-4B68-B524-597465A4116E@openbuddha.com>
References: <BANLkTik2Ctu4H9eW4uamAhj46fvJRe3BgA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> With a bit of love from Cliff and a trip to Home Depot for some bolts,
> Alice is working fine now.
>

Mostly I just rebuilt the Y-stage.  The stepper extruder was working fine in
my tests.

-- 
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http://cliffle.com/
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon May 30 23:52:08 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 23:52:08 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Please be careful or fire is not our friend
Message-ID: <59508C6C-A8F6-4130-B611-879605571D1C@openbuddha.com>

Today when Cliff and I were working in the space, Cliff found one of the soldering irons had been left on.

We have a number of pieces of equipment (and another soon with the laser) that can burn the space down. Please make sure you turn off and/or unplug equipment that you use.

Al




From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 31 13:49:40 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:49:40 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Club Arduino Meeting at the Space on Saturday, June 18?
Message-ID: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>

Hi,

I've been talking to Michael Shiloh, whom some of you know, about him 
running the open "Club Arduino" meetings at our space sometimes. They're 
doing one this next Saturday or Sunday at Noisebridge and he and I have 
spoken about doing it from 2:00 to 5:00 PM on Saturday, June 18, at the 
space.

The pitch for Club Arduino is:

"hang out with others interested in arduino, regardless of level.

learn, share, discuss, ask, tell, demonstrate.

sometimes we hold an organized workshop session e.g. soldering or 
sensors or programming."

Does anyone see a reason not to do this? We've spoken about having third 
parties run open classes and events at the space if they're in line with 
our interests.

Al



From tewing at gmail.com  Tue May 31 13:58:32 2011
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 13:58:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Club Arduino Meeting at the Space on Saturday, June 18?
In-Reply-To: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>
References: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <EB7F4B22-E791-4F76-9D2B-50DCD6B08CCE@gmail.com>

Would we be able to attend the class?  I'd like to start working on an arduino sous vide controller.  I'm pretty sure I can do it without much help but having other folks around doing similar arduino projects might motivate me to actually get it done.

On May 31, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Al Jigen Billings wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've been talking to Michael Shiloh, whom some of you know, about him running the open "Club Arduino" meetings at our space sometimes. They're doing one this next Saturday or Sunday at Noisebridge and he and I have spoken about doing it from 2:00 to 5:00 PM on Saturday, June 18, at the space.
> 
> The pitch for Club Arduino is:
> 
> "hang out with others interested in arduino, regardless of level.
> 
> learn, share, discuss, ask, tell, demonstrate.
> 
> sometimes we hold an organized workshop session e.g. soldering or sensors or programming."
> 
> Does anyone see a reason not to do this? We've spoken about having third parties run open classes and events at the space if they're in line with our interests.
> 
> Al
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 31 14:01:11 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:01:11 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Club Arduino Meeting at the Space on Saturday, June 18?
In-Reply-To: <EB7F4B22-E791-4F76-9D2B-50DCD6B08CCE@gmail.com>
References: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>
	<EB7F4B22-E791-4F76-9D2B-50DCD6B08CCE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DE55717.80905@openbuddha.com>

On 5/31/11 1:58 PM, Terry Ewing wrote:
> Would we be able to attend the class?  I'd like to start working on an arduino sous vide controller.  I'm pretty sure I can do it without much help but having other folks around doing similar arduino projects might motivate me to actually get it done.
Anything we host, we can always attend.

As it is, this is more of a "get together" event for arduino interested 
folks than a class, AFAIK, and I see no reason not to go.

That said, David is doing his AVR stuff again starting a week from 
Wednesday as well.

Al



From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Tue May 31 14:05:29 2011
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:05:29 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Club Arduino Meeting at the Space on Saturday, June 18?
In-Reply-To: <4DE55717.80905@openbuddha.com>
References: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>	<EB7F4B22-E791-4F76-9D2B-50DCD6B08CCE@gmail.com>
	<4DE55717.80905@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <4DE55819.9030308@gmail.com>


> As it is, this is more of a "get together" event for arduino interested
> folks than a class, AFAIK, and I see no reason not to go.

exactly true.


From tewing at gmail.com  Tue May 31 14:20:29 2011
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:20:29 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Club Arduino Meeting at the Space on Saturday, June 18?
In-Reply-To: <4DE55819.9030308@gmail.com>
References: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>	<EB7F4B22-E791-4F76-9D2B-50DCD6B08CCE@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <6607221D-549B-458F-9D4C-E766CB90E789@gmail.com>

Cool.  It'll be like an Arduino meetup.

On May 31, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Michael Shiloh wrote:

> 
>> As it is, this is more of a "get together" event for arduino interested
>> folks than a class, AFAIK, and I see no reason not to go.
> 
> exactly true.
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Tue May 31 14:22:57 2011
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:22:57 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Club Arduino Meeting at the Space on Saturday, June 18?
In-Reply-To: <6607221D-549B-458F-9D4C-E766CB90E789@gmail.com>
References: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>	<EB7F4B22-E791-4F76-9D2B-50DCD6B08CCE@gmail.com>	<4DE55717.80905@openbuddha.com>
	<4DE55819.9030308@gmail.com>
	<6607221D-549B-458F-9D4C-E766CB90E789@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DE55C31.2020802@gmail.com>

yes. and you're all welcome at the arduino/android gathering at 
noisebridge this sunday, 3-5:30 or so

On 05/31/2011 02:20 PM, Terry Ewing wrote:
> Cool.  It'll be like an Arduino meetup.
>
> On May 31, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Michael Shiloh wrote:
>
>>
>>> As it is, this is more of a "get together" event for arduino interested
>>> folks than a class, AFAIK, and I see no reason not to go.
>>
>> exactly true.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

-- 
Michael Shiloh
KA6RCQ
www.teachmetomake.com
teachmetomake.wordpress.com
Interested in classes? Join http://groups.google.com/group/teach-me-to-make


From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 31 15:58:06 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:58:06 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Kinect Group Purchase
Message-ID: <4DE5727E.8020803@openbuddha.com>

I've brought this up before but I'd love to get seven to nine other 
people (along with me) to go in together on buying a Kinect for AMT.

Anyone else in?

I've made a page to track this on the wiki at 
http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Kinect.

Al

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From tewing at gmail.com  Tue May 31 16:11:20 2011
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:11:20 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Kinect Group Purchase
In-Reply-To: <4DE5727E.8020803@openbuddha.com>
References: <4DE5727E.8020803@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <6CBEF63C-BDA3-4F16-8481-1DBF6F3F652E@gmail.com>

I'll kick in if we get it down to <$20/head.

On May 31, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Al Jigen Billings wrote:

> I've brought this up before but I'd love to get seven to nine other people (along with me) to go in together on buying a Kinect for AMT. 
> 
> Anyone else in? 
> 
> I've made a page to track this on the wiki at http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Kinect. 
> 
> Al 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 31 16:12:38 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:12:38 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Kinect Group Purchase
In-Reply-To: <6CBEF63C-BDA3-4F16-8481-1DBF6F3F652E@gmail.com>
References: <4DE5727E.8020803@openbuddha.com>
	<6CBEF63C-BDA3-4F16-8481-1DBF6F3F652E@gmail.com>
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On 5/31/11 4:11 PM, Terry Ewing wrote:
> I'll kick in if we get it down to <$20/head.
Please be adding name to wiki.

Al



From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 31 16:31:32 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:31:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Oops. General Meeting is Thursday
Message-ID: <4DE57A54.8090801@openbuddha.com>

So, even though I wrote the by-laws, I don't read them much... :-)

The general quarterly meeting where we vote new members in and wherein 
all member business can be conducted, such as recalling the board, is 
actually the FIRST Thursday of June. This turns out to be in two days...

So, on Thursday night, we'll be voting in new members. David can send 
out a list of the members being voted on.

Unless you want to recall the board right before the election, I suspect 
there will be little other business.

The board election is on the THIRD Thursday this month. These are not 
the same meeting as it turns out.

Strangely, we had expected these to logically be on the same day but meh.

I expect the board will be ironing out some minor by-laws issues soon.

Al



From drorex at gmail.com  Tue May 31 16:42:30 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:42:30 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Oops. General Meeting is Thursday
In-Reply-To: <4DE57A54.8090801@openbuddha.com>
References: <4DE57A54.8090801@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinTydnZOCkzrZFzeLLAFAwNLShbOA@mail.gmail.com>

People who have paid in the last two months but are not yet full members,
and we'll probably be voting on them: terry, costa, cliff, louise, myles

Note that it makes you look better if you show up at the meeting you're
being voted in at. Also if you DONT want to be voted in for some strange
reason, please let me or al know

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> So, even though I wrote the by-laws, I don't read them much... :-)
>
> The general quarterly meeting where we vote new members in and wherein all
> member business can be conducted, such as recalling the board, is actually
> the FIRST Thursday of June. This turns out to be in two days...
>
> So, on Thursday night, we'll be voting in new members. David can send out a
> list of the members being voted on.
>
> Unless you want to recall the board right before the election, I suspect
> there will be little other business.
>
> The board election is on the THIRD Thursday this month. These are not the
> same meeting as it turns out.
>
> Strangely, we had expected these to logically be on the same day but meh.
>
> I expect the board will be ironing out some minor by-laws issues soon.
>
> Al
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 31 16:46:11 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:46:11 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Oops. General Meeting is Thursday
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinTydnZOCkzrZFzeLLAFAwNLShbOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4DE57A54.8090801@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinTydnZOCkzrZFzeLLAFAwNLShbOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DE57DC3.6060907@openbuddha.com>

Oh and if you are a member but aren't current on dues for at least May 
(and before), please please pay your dues! :-)

Al

On 5/31/11 4:42 PM, David Rorex wrote:
> People who have paid in the last two months but are not yet full 
> members, and we'll probably be voting on them: terry, costa, cliff, 
> louise, myles
>
> Note that it makes you look better if you show up at the meeting 
> you're being voted in at. Also if you DONT want to be voted in for 
> some strange reason, please let me or al know
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Al Jigen Billings 
> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>
>     So, even though I wrote the by-laws, I don't read them much... :-)
>
>     The general quarterly meeting where we vote new members in and
>     wherein all member business can be conducted, such as recalling
>     the board, is actually the FIRST Thursday of June. This turns out
>     to be in two days...
>
>     So, on Thursday night, we'll be voting in new members. David can
>     send out a list of the members being voted on.
>
>     Unless you want to recall the board right before the election, I
>     suspect there will be little other business.
>
>     The board election is on the THIRD Thursday this month. These are
>     not the same meeting as it turns out.
>
>     Strangely, we had expected these to logically be on the same day
>     but meh.
>
>     I expect the board will be ironing out some minor by-laws issues soon.
>
>     Al
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Discuss mailing list
>     Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>     <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
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From me at robbiet.us  Tue May 31 16:46:50 2011
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:46:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Oops. General Meeting is Thursday
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinTydnZOCkzrZFzeLLAFAwNLShbOA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4DE57A54.8090801@openbuddha.com>
	<BANLkTinTydnZOCkzrZFzeLLAFAwNLShbOA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BDF67DE46F114C1B9FCB7C6CE453A25B@gmail.com>

HOWEVER, if you want to be voted in but can not make it for whatever reason, you are allowed to designate a proxy person to represent you at the meeting and later inform you of the outcome of the vote. 

I would be more then willing to be a proxy for everyone who is up to become a new member. Please let me know via email or phone BEFORE the meeting and I will represent you.

-- 
Robbie Trencheny


On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 at 4:42 PM, David Rorex wrote:

> People who have paid in the last two months but are not yet full members, and we'll probably be voting on them: terry, costa, cliff, louise, myles
> 
> Note that it makes you look better if you show up at the meeting you're being voted in at. Also if you DONT want to be voted in for some strange reason, please let me or al know
> 
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com (mailto:albill at openbuddha.com)> wrote:
> >  So, even though I wrote the by-laws, I don't read them much... :-)
> > 
> >  The general quarterly meeting where we vote new members in and wherein all member business can be conducted, such as recalling the board, is actually the FIRST Thursday of June. This turns out to be in two days...
> > 
> >  So, on Thursday night, we'll be voting in new members. David can send out a list of the members being voted on.
> > 
> >  Unless you want to recall the board right before the election, I suspect there will be little other business.
> > 
> >  The board election is on the THIRD Thursday this month. These are not the same meeting as it turns out.
> > 
> >  Strangely, we had expected these to logically be on the same day but meh.
> > 
> >  I expect the board will be ironing out some minor by-laws issues soon.
> > 
> >  Al
> > 
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org (mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org)
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Tue May 31 16:49:36 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 16:49:36 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Oops. General Meeting is Thursday
In-Reply-To: <BDF67DE46F114C1B9FCB7C6CE453A25B@gmail.com>
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If you DON'T want to pay your dues and DON'T want to become a member,
you can ignore this message.

--
Hephaestus (because everyone else was chiming in and I didn't want to
feel left out)

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> HOWEVER, if you want to be voted in but can not make it for whatever reason,
> you are allowed to designate a proxy person to represent you at the meeting
> and later inform you of the outcome of the vote.
> I would be more then willing to be a proxy for everyone who is up to become
> a new member. Please let me know via email or phone BEFORE the meeting and I
> will represent you.
> --
> Robbie Trencheny
>
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 at 4:42 PM, David Rorex wrote:
>
> People who have paid in the last two months but are not yet full members,
> and we'll probably be voting on them: terry, costa, cliff, louise, myles
>
> Note that it makes you look better if you show up at the meeting you're
> being voted in at. Also if you DONT want to be voted in for some strange
> reason, please let me or al know
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> wrote:
>
> So, even though I wrote the by-laws, I don't read them much... :-)
>
> The general quarterly meeting where we vote new members in and wherein all
> member business can be conducted, such as recalling the board, is actually
> the FIRST Thursday of June. This turns out to be in two days...
>
> So, on Thursday night, we'll be voting in new members. David can send out a
> list of the members being voted on.
>
> Unless you want to recall the board right before the election, I suspect
> there will be little other business.
>
> The board election is on the THIRD Thursday this month. These are not the
> same meeting as it turns out.
>
> Strangely, we had expected these to logically be on the same day but meh.
>
> I expect the board will be ironing out some minor by-laws issues soon.
>
> Al
>
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From biff at cliffle.com  Tue May 31 20:45:23 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:45:23 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Kinect Group Purchase
In-Reply-To: <4DE5727E.8020803@openbuddha.com>
References: <4DE5727E.8020803@openbuddha.com>
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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

>  I've brought this up before but I'd love to get seven to nine other
> people (along with me) to go in together on buying a Kinect for AMT.
>

I have a Kinect I would be willing to leave at the space...if I could be
confident it wouldn't walk off or get destroyed.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/
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From biff at cliffle.com  Tue May 31 20:47:04 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:47:04 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] LED strips?
Message-ID: <BANLkTik_JYGNF-6bUvNwyXObshsSPG7CNA@mail.gmail.com>

My wife and I are building a bellydance costume for a show we're putting on
this weekend.  (OBTW: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=171579019564053)

I'd like to find some pre-made strips of LEDs, a foot long or more.  It'd
save me having to buy them individually and solder them.  Anyone have
recommendations?

(Before you ask: we're not currently equipped to drive EL wire.)

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/
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From biff at cliffle.com  Tue May 31 20:48:36 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:48:36 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Club Arduino Meeting at the Space on Saturday, June 18?
In-Reply-To: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>
References: <4DE55464.8030204@openbuddha.com>
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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Does anyone see a reason not to do this?


I see every reason *to* do this -- sounds perfect, and I'll attend.

-- 
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue May 31 20:48:52 2011
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigen Billings)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:48:52 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Kinect Group Purchase
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=5w4u=gMjY59XtZYQBJ8e9uwAukg@mail.gmail.com>
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Well, I ordered a used one for the space for $103 earlier today. I just need to convince people to pony up some cash!

On May 31, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Al Jigen Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> I've brought this up before but I'd love to get seven to nine other people (along with me) to go in together on buying a Kinect for AMT.
> 
> I have a Kinect I would be willing to leave at the space...if I could be confident it wouldn't walk off or get destroyed.
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/

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From drorex at gmail.com  Tue May 31 21:13:50 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:13:50 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] LED strips?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTik_JYGNF-6bUvNwyXObshsSPG7CNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTik_JYGNF-6bUvNwyXObshsSPG7CNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimKAS1BGtcoCjE=D4emCBoTafhMGA@mail.gmail.com>

The chinese excel at strips of LEDs, there's 3 types:

1) A strip of LEDs that are all the same color (eg all red or all green or
something)
2) A strip of RGB LEDs, all wired in parallel (with built in resistors) -->
you can change the color of the entire strip
3) A strip of RGB LEDs, each RGB set with a tiny IC, all daisy-chained -->
you can change the color of individual LEDs with only a few I/O wires from a
microcontroller (SPI I believe it was?)

sparkfun has a couple, but they're pretty expensive:
http://www.sparkfun.com/search/results?term=rgb+strip&what=products

you might try trolling ebay or aliexpress to find some cheaper ones:
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=rgb+strip+1m&_sacat=0&_odkw=rgb+strip&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=led+strip&catId=0

jameco has one if you need it asap:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_2112647_-1

oh, also there's a 4th type: individual RGB LEDs with controller ICs on
them, but they are in individual enclosures, and you daisy chan them
yourself by connecting / disconnecting them -- I've seen them called "led
pixel"

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/369679309-12mm-8mm-full-color-led-pixel-module-705IC-wholesalers.html

one guy at the space a couple months ago used a bunch of them in a ring
around the edge of a clock face to make a trippy RGB LED clock thing

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> My wife and I are building a bellydance costume for a show we're putting on
> this weekend.  (OBTW:
> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=171579019564053)
>
> I'd like to find some pre-made strips of LEDs, a foot long or more.  It'd
> save me having to buy them individually and solder them.  Anyone have
> recommendations?
>
> (Before you ask: we're not currently equipped to drive EL wire.)
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
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From biff at cliffle.com  Tue May 31 21:30:33 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:30:33 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Big roll of Kapton tape
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=gccZAnZfwt+Bqy5zB9PLwXEjrWw@mail.gmail.com>

Just noticed this: http://store.makerbot.com/kapton-120-mm-tape.html

This would be a better way to resurface Bob than that blue tape....

-- 
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From drorex at gmail.com  Tue May 31 22:13:14 2011
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:13:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Big roll of Kapton tape
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=gccZAnZfwt+Bqy5zB9PLwXEjrWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=gccZAnZfwt+Bqy5zB9PLwXEjrWw@mail.gmail.com>
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I dunno...I'm having a hard time imagining that anything could stick the
plastic better than the blue tape, which works amazingly. Only downside is
it's kinda easy to damage, but it's super easy and quick to replace. Still,
that tape's not TOO expensive, couldn't hurt to give it a try.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> Just noticed this: http://store.makerbot.com/kapton-120-mm-tape.html
>
> This would be a better way to resurface Bob than that blue tape....
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>
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From biff at cliffle.com  Tue May 31 22:37:05 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:37:05 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Big roll of Kapton tape
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTim77NBUmgHcPXVP1i-GcGwSTCkvFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTi=gccZAnZfwt+Bqy5zB9PLwXEjrWw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:13 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> I dunno...I'm having a hard time imagining that anything could stick the
> plastic better than the blue tape, which works amazingly.


The kit comes with a kapton tape sheet, and (at least on my bot) the plastic
sticks to it wonderfully.

Note that I did *not* rough it up, like we did on Bob.

But blue tape is certainly cheap and easy to come by!

-- 
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http://cliffle.com/
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From dgarcia at dgarcia.net  Tue May 31 22:37:36 2011
From: dgarcia at dgarcia.net (Daniel Garcia)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:37:36 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] LED strips?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimKAS1BGtcoCjE=D4emCBoTafhMGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTik_JYGNF-6bUvNwyXObshsSPG7CNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimKAS1BGtcoCjE=D4emCBoTafhMGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <75AD610C-1310-497F-B413-BC772B8959D4@dgarcia.net>

That was me with the clock, most of what I've done since has been with strips instead of LEDs

How soon do you need these by?  Aliexpress can be good, but slow - and if you're using an Arduino to drive them I have a library that supports many of the chipsets out there (though I need to add a few more). When I'm not standing in the middle of a club I can look up strip recommendations for you. I suspect you will want 5v rather than 12v strips, yes?

--Dg (on mobile phone, pardon terseness and typos)


On May 31, 2011, at 9:13 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> The chinese excel at strips of LEDs, there's 3 types:
> 
> 1) A strip of LEDs that are all the same color (eg all red or all green or something)
> 2) A strip of RGB LEDs, all wired in parallel (with built in resistors) --> you can change the color of the entire strip
> 3) A strip of RGB LEDs, each RGB set with a tiny IC, all daisy-chained --> you can change the color of individual LEDs with only a few I/O wires from a microcontroller (SPI I believe it was?)
> 
> sparkfun has a couple, but they're pretty expensive:
> http://www.sparkfun.com/search/results?term=rgb+strip&what=products
> 
> you might try trolling ebay or aliexpress to find some cheaper ones:
> http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=rgb+strip+1m&_sacat=0&_odkw=rgb+strip&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
> http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=led+strip&catId=0
> 
> jameco has one if you need it asap:
> http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_2112647_-1
> 
> oh, also there's a 4th type: individual RGB LEDs with controller ICs on them, but they are in individual enclosures, and you daisy chan them yourself by connecting / disconnecting them -- I've seen them called "led pixel"
> 
> http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/369679309-12mm-8mm-full-color-led-pixel-module-705IC-wholesalers.html
> 
> one guy at the space a couple months ago used a bunch of them in a ring around the edge of a clock face to make a trippy RGB LED clock thing
> 
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
> My wife and I are building a bellydance costume for a show we're putting on this weekend.  (OBTW: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=171579019564053)
> 
> I'd like to find some pre-made strips of LEDs, a foot long or more.  It'd save me having to buy them individually and solder them.  Anyone have recommendations?
> 
> (Before you ask: we're not currently equipped to drive EL wire.)
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From biff at cliffle.com  Tue May 31 22:52:52 2011
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 22:52:52 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] LED strips?
In-Reply-To: <75AD610C-1310-497F-B413-BC772B8959D4@dgarcia.net>
References: <BANLkTik_JYGNF-6bUvNwyXObshsSPG7CNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimKAS1BGtcoCjE=D4emCBoTafhMGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<75AD610C-1310-497F-B413-BC772B8959D4@dgarcia.net>
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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Daniel Garcia <dgarcia at dgarcia.net> wrote:

> How soon do you need these by?
>

Saturday! :-)  At the moment I'm putting in a few backup orders with places
that ship quickly (SparkFun, Digikey).  If I wind up with some spare LEDs,
so be it.


> if you're using an Arduino to drive them I have a library that supports
> many of the chipsets out there (though I need to add a few more).
>

I was planning to control them at the sink side with a ULN2003.  Shouldn't
need much of a driver.


> I suspect you will want 5v rather than 12v strips, yes?
>

Ideally!  Lower voltage means hanging fewer batteries off the bellydancer.
 I'm prototyping with a 6V pack of AAs initially, but I may switch to LiPo
to reduce weight.

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Tue May 31 23:10:16 2011
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 23:10:16 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] LED strips?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinGqS7Vi6P21Sroba7YUfDL3zwaKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTik_JYGNF-6bUvNwyXObshsSPG7CNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<BANLkTimKAS1BGtcoCjE=D4emCBoTafhMGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<75AD610C-1310-497F-B413-BC772B8959D4@dgarcia.net>
	<BANLkTinGqS7Vi6P21Sroba7YUfDL3zwaKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm working with one of these right now:
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_2131813_-1

You can pick it up from their store south of SF, but their shipping is
usually overnight. A bit more expensive than the competition
considering they're not individually addressable, but if you
absolutely positively gotta have it before the weekend, it's the only
option I know =]

--
Heph

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Cliff L. Biffle <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Daniel Garcia <dgarcia at dgarcia.net> wrote:
>>
>> How soon do you need these by?
>
> Saturday! :-) ?At the moment I'm putting in a few backup orders with places
> that ship quickly (SparkFun, Digikey). ?If I wind up with some spare LEDs,
> so be it.
>
>>
>> if you're using an Arduino to drive them I have a library that supports
>> many of the chipsets out there (though I need to add a few more).
>
> I was planning to control them at the sink side with a ULN2003. ?Shouldn't
> need much of a driver.
>
>>
>> I suspect you will want 5v rather than 12v strips, yes?
>
> Ideally! ?Lower voltage means hanging fewer batteries off the bellydancer.
> ?I'm prototyping with a 6V pack of AAs initially, but I may switch to LiPo
> to reduce weight.
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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