From drorex at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 17:14:05 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:14:05 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis mission for next week
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeJaYHMetVSYjgtxC+xEZEe5dyR9iGhFY3hLXp05a3Up=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeJaYHMetVSYjgtxC+xEZEe5dyR9iGhFY3hLXp05a3Up=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeJfV1nkayNw55=k_==8Ao-6p=NprGc9C_cD_RvHLsgKZA@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, let's do it Sunday again, 5pm I think is a good time. If you didn't
fill out my form, please let me know if you intend on coming. If you DID
fill out the form, please let me know if you can't make it. Bring a laptop
running windows if possible, you can also run under mac via wineskin,
though I noticed a little bit of cursor lag:
http://artemiswiki.pbworks.com/w/page/43819518/How%20to%20run%20Artemis%20on%20the%20Mac


There's still 1 slot open, hopefully we can get a full crew this time.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:25 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> It was fun, we definitely should do it again. Next time I think we should
> spend a little more time figuring out the controls instead of just blasting
> off at the beginning. Here's the signup sheet for next week, highlight the
> days you could possibly make it: http://whenisgood.net/girqzjz
> I highly recommend reading the help pages on the wiki below for all the
> different stations to get an idea of what the controls are.
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:21 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I found an awesome looking game, it's a spaceship bridge simulator. I
>> need people to be the crew, the game takes up to six people (having all
>> spots filled is ideal):
>>
>> Captain
>> Helm
>> Weapons
>> Engineering
>> Comms
>> Science
>>
>> Overview of their responsibilities:
>> http://artemiswiki.pbworks.com/w/page/44188987/Station%20overviews
>> Sample video of what we will be doing: http://youtu.be/72XhdVqDT1g(uniforms optional)
>>
>> Who's up for friday night? We can use the projector at the space for our
>> main screen, it'll be awesome!
>>
>>
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Feb  2 10:23:46 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:23:46 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] NB key?
Message-ID: <2F79237A-1196-45CB-A638-CA96237D7D3A@openbuddha.com>

Who wants to make keys to Noisebridge?

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/A_key

I have a physical instance.

Al


From romanian at gmail.com  Thu Feb  2 10:25:28 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:25:28 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] NB key?
In-Reply-To: <2F79237A-1196-45CB-A638-CA96237D7D3A@openbuddha.com>
References: <2F79237A-1196-45CB-A638-CA96237D7D3A@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwzQEJoc1NzzuyF+rGtO31kDnJU6BwR5gyfHduxLedjQyg@mail.gmail.com>

lol why would anyone want one?? we can pick that in no time :P

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Who wants to make keys to Noisebridge?
>
> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/A_key
>
> I have a physical instance.
>
> Al
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From me at robbiet.us  Thu Feb  2 10:27:32 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 11:27:32 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] NB key?
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwzQEJoc1NzzuyF+rGtO31kDnJU6BwR5gyfHduxLedjQyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2F79237A-1196-45CB-A638-CA96237D7D3A@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwzQEJoc1NzzuyF+rGtO31kDnJU6BwR5gyfHduxLedjQyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPs-5xUz8PquN2z8iNd2xC1iev5muREeXKP0Fiqm6BHTEA8g7w@mail.gmail.com>

It's more of a symbol for hackerspace brothership methinks. Just like
Mitch's hackerspace passports
Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
925-884-3728
robbie.io



On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> lol why would anyone want one?? we can pick that in no time :P
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Al Jigong Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> > Who wants to make keys to Noisebridge?
> >
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/A_key
> >
> > I have a physical instance.
> >
> > Al
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Thu Feb  2 10:28:26 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:28:26 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] NB key?
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwzQEJoc1NzzuyF+rGtO31kDnJU6BwR5gyfHduxLedjQyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2F79237A-1196-45CB-A638-CA96237D7D3A@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwzQEJoc1NzzuyF+rGtO31kDnJU6BwR5gyfHduxLedjQyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeKKy=axe2y4-nx5ijvqyzMpdoNOvzLyp8dsxbRkvJO1-Q@mail.gmail.com>

>
> The Noisebridge version A key is a 5 tumbler Schlage warded key. The pin
> code is not given directly here as a deterrent. The pin code is (from tip
> to shoulder):
> The five digit integer corresponding to the definite integral of the
> square function from 0 to 50.23148.
> This key was used at 83c Wiese and is currently used at 2169 Mission.


http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=definite+integral+of+the+square+function+from+0+to+50.23148


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> lol why would anyone want one?? we can pick that in no time :P
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Al Jigong Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> > Who wants to make keys to Noisebridge?
> >
> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/A_key
> >
> > I have a physical instance.
> >
> > Al
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Thu Feb  2 10:29:43 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 10:29:43 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] NB key?
In-Reply-To: <CAPs-5xUz8PquN2z8iNd2xC1iev5muREeXKP0Fiqm6BHTEA8g7w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2F79237A-1196-45CB-A638-CA96237D7D3A@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwzQEJoc1NzzuyF+rGtO31kDnJU6BwR5gyfHduxLedjQyg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPs-5xUz8PquN2z8iNd2xC1iev5muREeXKP0Fiqm6BHTEA8g7w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSww1nAH4P0c+5PvNf0y-szA=Hru7gRk7F-OYf4OCS3dAKg@mail.gmail.com>

i think it discriminates against people with lack of access to a good
education (that door is literally closed to them)
i vote for picking it.

Stefan

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:
> It's more of a symbol for hackerspace brothership methinks. Just like
> Mitch's hackerspace passports
> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie)
> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
> 925-884-3728
> robbie.io
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> lol why would anyone want one?? we can pick that in no time :P
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Al Jigong Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> > Who wants to make keys to Noisebridge?
>> >
>> > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/A_key
>> >
>> > I have a physical instance.
>> >
>> > Al
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Feb  2 10:38:17 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:38:17 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] NB key?
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeKKy=axe2y4-nx5ijvqyzMpdoNOvzLyp8dsxbRkvJO1-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2F79237A-1196-45CB-A638-CA96237D7D3A@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwzQEJoc1NzzuyF+rGtO31kDnJU6BwR5gyfHduxLedjQyg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeKKy=axe2y4-nx5ijvqyzMpdoNOvzLyp8dsxbRkvJO1-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F2AD819.4070908@openbuddha.com>

On 2/2/12 10:28 AM, David Rorex wrote:
>
>     The Noisebridge version A key is a 5 tumbler Schlage warded key.
>     The pin code is not given directly here as a deterrent. The pin
>     code is (from tip to shoulder):
>     The five digit integer corresponding to the definite integral of
>     the square function from 0 to 50.23148.
>     This key was used at 83c Wiese and is currently used at 2169 Mission.
>
>  
> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=definite+integral+of+the+square+function+from+0+to+50.23148 

Lazy Internet FTW!
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From drorex at gmail.com  Thu Feb  2 18:28:10 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 18:28:10 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] bring a lightbulb tonight
Message-ID: <CACAQXeKJbyS85-bcBnaQhdAg_C3rjGiGuanoACmNrHGX0jL9ww@mail.gmail.com>

our front door is dark and visitors can't find it. takes standard
lightbulbs. if you have any kind of lightbulb, please bring it tonight
thanks!
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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 08:49:07 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:49:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
	3pm-late. Door prizes 8^)
Message-ID: <1328287747.22290.androidMobile@web83606.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>



Pictures attached. 

more details presently.

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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 14:10:47 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
	4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change]
Message-ID: <1328307047.1452.androidMobile@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Damn, I forgot I copied myself on this follow up note this morning, so I thought out had been "moderated in" despite the pics being a bit too big.

Well here's the description. I'll send the pics in batches. 

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 14:23:30 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:23:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
	4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change]
Message-ID: <1328307810.20575.androidMobile@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Lets get to the important stuff - Refreshments!

We have a powerful blender and reasonably full liquor cabinet. Honoring one request for pale ale. Pinot & Cab Franc is on hand. 

Also serving Peets Sumatra Blue Barak? coffee & Monster MIXXD. Rockstar energy gum available.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

From: steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com>; 
To: discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org <discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>; 
Subject: Re: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today, 4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change] 
Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2012 10:10:47 PM 

Damn, I forgot I copied myself on this follow up note this morning, so I thought out had been "moderated in" despite the pics being a bit too big.

Well here's the description. I'll send the pics in batches. 

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

From: steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com>; 
To: discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org <discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>; steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com>; 
Subject: Re: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today, 3pm-late. Door prizes 8^) 
Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2012 7:46:19 PM 

Executive summary: will trade geeky goods for help with move - specifically boxing some things and packing up the truck.

Hey Everyone,

For those I haven't met yet, I joined Ace recently to push my agenda of optics, circuit bending, science teaching, and using taxonomies and machine learning to change the world.

As I mentioned at the meeting last night, I've accumulated way too many gizmos, tinkery electronics, surplus optics (including quite a few refractor objectives & even a monstrous aerial lens), hackable toys, audio/synth bits n cables, science teacher junk, and the like.

I'm moving to smaller quarters. So I'm donating some of it to Ace, storing some with a few friends, and passing some of it on. I'm loading my UHaul tonight (I reserved the truck from mid afternoon Fri to mid afternoon Sat, since the last day of a move always turns seems to turn into a late night adventure in culling for me. Saturday is for deliveries.)

Some of my neighbors can help with the heavy stuff, but theres just a lot to do, so I'm making it a party, and as I said passing some oddities on to good homes. This is in El Sobrante, near El Cerrito. 

More pics attached. You can see the wall-hanging bins I'm offering to the electronics area (3x6 ft plate attached to wall & mobile bins of various sizes for parts hang on that) etc.

I hope to see you there! Questions? Ask away.

Steve 510-418-7332 
Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android 


Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

From: steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com>; 
To: discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org <discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>; 
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today, 3pm-late. Door prizes 8^) 
Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2012 4:49:07 PM 

Pictures attached. 

more details presently.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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From louise.s.fox at gmail.com  Fri Feb  3 14:28:45 2012
From: louise.s.fox at gmail.com (Louise Fox)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:28:45 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
 4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change]
In-Reply-To: <1328307810.20575.androidMobile@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1328307810.20575.androidMobile@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAPxmc0H25OeKhm7HZHAZ_EWEgNonOVhTOVO1Jxyg8yRG+1R-5Q@mail.gmail.com>

What is the address?

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:23 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Lets get to the important stuff - Refreshments!
>
> We have a powerful blender and reasonably full liquor cabinet. Honoring
> one request for pale ale. Pinot & Cab Franc is on hand.
>
> Also serving Peets Sumatra Blue Barak coffee & Monster MIXXD. Rockstar
> energy gum available.
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
> *From: *steve lussier **;
> *To: *discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org **;
> *Subject: *Re: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
> 4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change]
> *Sent: *Fri, Feb 3, 2012 10:10:47 PM
>
> Damn, I forgot I copied myself on this follow up note this morning, so I
> thought out had been "moderated in" despite the pics being a bit too big.
>
> Well here's the description. I'll send the pics in batches.
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
> *From: *steve lussier **;
> *To: *discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org **; steve lussier **;
> *Subject: *Re: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
> 3pm-late. Door prizes 8^)
> *Sent: *Fri, Feb 3, 2012 7:46:19 PM
>
> Executive summary: will trade geeky goods for help with move -
> specifically boxing some things and packing up the truck.
>
> Hey Everyone,
>
> For those I haven't met yet, I joined Ace recently to push my agenda of
> optics, circuit bending, science teaching, and using taxonomies and machine
> learning to change the world.
>
> As I mentioned at the meeting last night, I've accumulated way too many
> gizmos, tinkery electronics, surplus optics (including quite a few
> refractor objectives & even a monstrous aerial lens), hackable toys,
> audio/synth bits n cables, science teacher junk, and the like.
>
> I'm moving to smaller quarters. So I'm donating some of it to Ace, storing
> some with a few friends, and passing some of it on. I'm loading my UHaul
> tonight (I reserved the truck from mid afternoon Fri to mid afternoon Sat,
> since the last day of a move always turns seems to turn into a late night
> adventure in culling for me. Saturday is for deliveries.)
>
> Some of my neighbors can help with the heavy stuff, but theres just a lot
> to do, so I'm making it a party, and as I said passing some oddities on to
> good homes. This is in El Sobrante, near El Cerrito.
>
> More pics attached. You can see the wall-hanging bins I'm offering to the
> electronics area (3x6 ft plate attached to wall & mobile bins of various
> sizes for parts hang on that) etc.
>
> I hope to see you there! Questions? Ask away.
>
> Steve 510-418-7332
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
> *From: *steve lussier **;
> *To: *discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org **;
> *Subject: *[AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today, 3pm-late.
> Door prizes 8^)
> *Sent: *Fri, Feb 3, 2012 4:49:07 PM
>
> Pictures attached.
>
> more details presently.
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>


-- 
Louise Fox
Mechanical Engineer
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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 14:31:45 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:31:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
	4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change]
Message-ID: <1328308305.3823.androidMobile@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

More pics. Ok and my neighbors worked as movers for years, so they'll help with the heavy stuff.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 15:08:06 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:08:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
	4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change]
Message-ID: <1328310486.95048.androidMobile@web83601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

4255 San Pablo Dam Rd apt 4, 
El Sobrante, 94803

SPDRd has its own exit off the 80. Take it East a couple of miles, and watch for the driveway to the left as you come around the gentle turn just past Appian Way.? 

That's at the next light (after Appian), the last left before a stretch of fence where the main road crosses a creek. N

Ignore the first apt building along thedriveway - bear right, along the creek. The first little uphill is labeled private, & 4255 is up the second. (it's very short & not steep).

** Let me know when you're coming 510-418-7332, so I can direct parking, which is in fairly short supply back here.? 8^)

Steve

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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 15:25:48 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:25:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
	4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change]
Message-ID: <1328311548.92489.androidMobile@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Oh, and bring cool/weird/interesting Cds? =D

Also I'm out of Tequila if that matte rs. I do have Cointreau ;)

Leaving to get truck, cups, ale.. 

**? If you need to reach me call or text, may not check email for a bit.

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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 19:39:35 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 19:39:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
	4pm-late. Door prizes 8^) [note time change]
Message-ID: <1328326775.84195.androidMobile@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Everything is set up and the first arrival is imminent. 

I hope I didn't make things sound too rustic here. The driveway *is* fully paved - and parking isn't a problem unless lots of people come. I just have to keep on top of it and plan. There are a few more good spots left.

One more clarification may be in order: I'm not going to be drinking booze tonight - that would not be wise. But based on convo after the meeting, I thought others might like to :)

Now that that's all clear, I can't think of any other good reasons y'all wouldn't be wantin to help me move on a Friday night ;)

In any event, I'll be up late, so give a holler and come on down. 510-418-7332

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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Feb  4 15:10:50 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:10:50 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Donations
In-Reply-To: <97D5DBAF-4DA6-4D9D-9AB0-507D24DF055B@openbuddha.com>
References: <97D5DBAF-4DA6-4D9D-9AB0-507D24DF055B@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAMY+0UKn+OZMnLdoqFi1ueTwDZTJGuS7=gm4k90Bq2Zz84Na4g@mail.gmail.com>

We have these at the space now.

Al

---------- Forwarded message ---------From: Chris Brent <
chris.brent at gmail.com>
Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Donations
Date: January 20, 2012 4:51:05 PM PST
To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net

Hi,
 Tim Anderson suggested that you might be interested in some items I
have to donate.
- A HP 450c plotter. One of the belts is shredded and I think it was
about $10 to get a new one, or you could use it for parts.
- A Romba 530
- An old Garmin 12XL https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=81&ra=true
Let me know if anyone is interested and I'll arrange to drop them off
sometime.
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From rachel at xtreme.com  Sat Feb  4 20:08:27 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:08:27 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] May I borrow the welding helmet?
Message-ID: <4F2E00BB.4090206@xtreme.com>

Is anyone doing any welding at this time, or has anyone got plans to do 
any welding before Tuesday?  I'd like to borrow the helmet from Sunday 
evening through Tuesday evening, to show a friend how to weld 
(elsewhere).  I've got one of my own, but only the one.  If I don't hear 
back I'll assume it's OK!

Rachel


From sean.p.cusack at gmail.com  Sat Feb  4 21:13:06 2012
From: sean.p.cusack at gmail.com (Sean Cusack)
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 21:13:06 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] May I borrow the welding helmet?
In-Reply-To: <4F2E00BB.4090206@xtreme.com>
References: <4F2E00BB.4090206@xtreme.com>
Message-ID: <CANioY+xMRCoawra_UYo=ASUNAjv0vmUnj++hxXNsz4Y-MHWoaA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey kiddo!

If you run into problems, let me know...you can borrow mine. Its at
boxshop...

Xoxo -
Sean
On Feb 4, 2012 8:08 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> Is anyone doing any welding at this time, or has anyone got plans to do
> any welding before Tuesday?  I'd like to borrow the helmet from Sunday
> evening through Tuesday evening, to show a friend how to weld (elsewhere).
>  I've got one of my own, but only the one.  If I don't hear back I'll
> assume it's OK!
>
> Rachel
> ______________________________**_________________
> Discuss mailing list
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From slick at rebelbase.com  Sun Feb  5 08:33:19 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 08:33:19 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] handy phone/tablet apps
Message-ID: <CAMmuSot+Uxiuc6n0smDmh1ArrcYn=-MGntJ_USfUS-tB_K4B2w@mail.gmail.com>

I just saw this by adafruit and thought it was kewl :) then I saw that
they (adafruit) didn't release and android version yet :( but some one
else did :) but it is ad supported unless you buy it :(

iOS
Circuit playground
http://adafruit.com/circuitplayground

Android
ElectrodDriod
https://market.android.com/details?id=it.android.demi.elettronica&feature=more_from_developer#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiaXQuYW5kcm9pZC5kZW1pLmVsZXR0cm9uaWNhIl0.


From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Feb  5 12:04:52 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 12:04:52 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Makers and hackers: The Where Conference is looking for you
Message-ID: <25C2A9E7-DBEE-4BA3-819D-11363A1613AC@openbuddha.com>

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/oreilly/radar/atom/~3/lrvNoBBcCbs/where-conference-makers-hackers-diy.html

From ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com  Sun Feb  5 12:35:31 2012
From: ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com (Christopher Cook)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 12:35:31 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
Message-ID: <CAMDVYoaU5nKY58Z8zqgEwvgxyiQB0_h3=f03kY0mPBKcQSPRxA@mail.gmail.com>

So Maker Faire.. yeah it's not until May but..... time flies when you're
slacking off.

Aside from the usual table with the cupcake, led signs, maybe a book
scanner.. creeper, dino  and what have you; is anyone interested in doing a
larger group project to take and show? Probably something interactive to
draw some eyes?

I'd love to hear some suggestions.

One idea I had was to build a 'shooting gallery'. We could meet together to
decide on the gun/trigger (IR? Laser pointer?) design then we'd be able to
work on our own to build different targets that could show off whatever we
were interested in; a reaction on an led sign, some servo controlled
something or other, spinny motor pinwheel, animatronic creeper head, sound
effect, glock-n-roll? Anyway you get the picture. I think the idea of a
group project ( but with lots of parts that can be worked on individually
on our own schedules) would help show off AMT as more then just a shared
workshop.

Chris
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Feb  5 13:13:42 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:13:42 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland:
 server security and how to keep radical sites safe
Message-ID: <4F2EF106.7040909@openbuddha.com>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland: server
security and how to keep radical sites safe
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com>
To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>

Hi noisebridge,
I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.

"Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet calls for
sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street, which face
surveillance and government repression both in the streets and
online."

Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.

@The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening all day
today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave, Oakland, CA

read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security



From romanian at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 14:16:56 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:16:56 -0600
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in
 oakland: server security and how to keep radical sites safe
In-Reply-To: <4F2EF106.7040909@openbuddha.com>
References: <4F2EF106.7040909@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwyeN3utxGdUUkf+S6o9JRLetE=owTbAp53Kw-3CJg3__Q@mail.gmail.com>

Huh..., theholdout = communists?

It seems that way based on their mission statements.

I hate communists that never lived in communism.


On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
wrote:
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland: server
> security and how to keep radical sites safe
> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
> From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com>
> To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>
> Hi noisebridge,
> I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
> discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.
>
> "Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
> list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
> wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet calls for
> sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
> about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
> context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street, which face
> surveillance and government repression both in the streets and
> online."
>
> Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.
>
> @The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening all day
> today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave, Oakland, CA
>
> read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Feb  5 14:26:12 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:26:12 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in
 oakland: server security and how to keep radical sites safe
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwyeN3utxGdUUkf+S6o9JRLetE=owTbAp53Kw-3CJg3__Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F2EF106.7040909@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwyeN3utxGdUUkf+S6o9JRLetE=owTbAp53Kw-3CJg3__Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMY+0UJzPKptdcgf3QACPPZNtQvFFQAL1xT5H_FAwQDfs41X0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Eastern European communism was never really communism though.

Do you hate my socialism?  :-)

Al
 On Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM, "Stefan Hristu" <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Huh..., theholdout = communists?
>
> It seems that way based on their mission statements.
>
> I hate communists that never lived in communism.
>
>
> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland: server
> > security and how to keep radical sites safe
> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
> > From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com>
> > To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> >
> > Hi noisebridge,
> > I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
> > discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.
> >
> > "Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
> > list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
> > wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet calls for
> > sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
> > about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
> > context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street, which face
> > surveillance and government repression both in the streets and
> > online."
> >
> > Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.
> >
> > @The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening all day
> > today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave, Oakland, CA
> >
> > read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
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From robertcook at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 14:54:01 2012
From: robertcook at gmail.com (Robert Cook)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:54:01 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in
	oakland: server security and how to keep radical sites safe
In-Reply-To: <CAMY+0UJzPKptdcgf3QACPPZNtQvFFQAL1xT5H_FAwQDfs41X0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F2EF106.7040909@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwyeN3utxGdUUkf+S6o9JRLetE=owTbAp53Kw-3CJg3__Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMY+0UJzPKptdcgf3QACPPZNtQvFFQAL1xT5H_FAwQDfs41X0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9CA295B2-DF26-4093-AA8F-F9D503BCF8D4@gmail.com>

They were communists in the way we are capitalists -- with power concentrated at the top -- hardly the populist intent. 

OWS generally seems more anarchist to me, which should be compatible with the maker/DIY world.  

There.  The FBI just opened a file on me. 

On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:

> Eastern European communism was never really communism though.
> 
> Do you hate my socialism?  :-)
> 
> Al
> On Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM, "Stefan Hristu" <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> Huh..., theholdout = communists?
> 
> It seems that way based on their mission statements.
> 
> I hate communists that never lived in communism.
> 
> 
> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland: server
> > security and how to keep radical sites safe
> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
> > From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com>
> > To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> >
> > Hi noisebridge,
> > I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
> > discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.
> >
> > "Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
> > list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
> > wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet calls for
> > sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
> > about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
> > context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street, https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/drt/si?p=CAA&ut=AFAKxlQAAAAATy3ga_M-7OkrUwhJCM6nXvYNd9A0UIkX repression both in the streets and
> > online."
> >
> > Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.
> >
> > @The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening all day
> > today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave, Oakland, CA
> >
> > read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Feb  5 14:56:28 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:56:28 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in
 oakland: server security and how to keep radical sites safe
In-Reply-To: <9CA295B2-DF26-4093-AA8F-F9D503BCF8D4@gmail.com>
References: <4F2EF106.7040909@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwyeN3utxGdUUkf+S6o9JRLetE=owTbAp53Kw-3CJg3__Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMY+0UJzPKptdcgf3QACPPZNtQvFFQAL1xT5H_FAwQDfs41X0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<9CA295B2-DF26-4093-AA8F-F9D503BCF8D4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMY+0UJ7yOyAmXYvYX=vKHo2FBNN9fBvC+74poDhh-U6RR4DiA@mail.gmail.com>

You don't get into the club until they visit you at work.

Al
 On Feb 5, 2012 2:54 PM, "Robert Cook" <robertcook at gmail.com> wrote:

> They were communists in the way we are capitalists -- with power
> concentrated at the top -- hardly the populist intent.
>
> OWS generally seems more anarchist to me, which should be compatible with
> the maker/DIY world.
>
> There.  The FBI just opened a file on me.
>
> On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> wrote:
>
> Eastern European communism was never really communism though.
>
> Do you hate my socialism?  :-)
>
> Al
>  On Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM, "Stefan Hristu" <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Huh..., theholdout = communists?
>>
>> It seems that way based on their mission statements.
>>
>> I hate communists that never lived in communism.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland: server
>> > security and how to keep radical sites safe
>> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
>> > From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com>
>> > To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>> >
>> > Hi noisebridge,
>> > I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
>> > discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.
>> >
>> > "Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
>> > list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
>> > wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet calls for
>> > sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
>> > about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
>> > context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street,
>> https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/drt/si?p=CAA&ut=AFAKxlQAAAAATy3ga_M-7OkrUwhJCM6nXvYNd9A0UIkX repression
>> both in the streets and
>
> > online."
>> >
>> > Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.
>> >
>> > @The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening all day
>> > today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave, Oakland, CA
>> >
>> > read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Feb  5 15:08:44 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 15:08:44 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Thursday
Message-ID: <CAMY+0UJAp5OzhUb1SuNmHcf-JLrn8gqpcjZM0C_2aJBv-VM7yQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am stuck in Santa Cruz this week so someone else needs to run this
Thursday's meeting.

Al
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 15:13:49 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 15:13:49 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] gaming tonight @ 5pm
Message-ID: <CACAQXeLLx+BhxecNQBHH+F_7wS_OUu3LfUL9RCtGGizAQ7ejMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Don't forgot to come at 5pm tonight for the Artemis game. Here's the
documentation link again for people who haven't read through it yet:
http://artemiswiki.pbworks.com/w/page/44188987/Station%20overviews
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From rachel at xtreme.com  Sun Feb  5 16:56:21 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:56:21 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] gaming tonight @ 5pm
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Gonna be late, flat tire, spare tube is marked LEAK, getting there by 
bus/walking unless someone calls me to say they can pick me up: 415-810-1022

Rachel

On 2/5/12 3:13 PM, David Rorex wrote:
> Don't forgot to come at 5pm tonight for the Artemis game. Here's the
> documentation link again for people who haven't read through it yet:
> http://artemiswiki.pbworks.com/w/page/44188987/Station%20overviews
>
>
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> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  5 21:41:16 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 21:41:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
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A group project with strong visual interest, interaction, and diverse elements 
sounds like a great idea!

Another possible theme would be laboratory/apparatus/mad scientist -- with a mix 
of creepy and educational 

There could be robots or Things which our visitors can Bring To Life -- or 
simply control, devices to communicate with space probes or mysterious aliens - 
I picture an ancient cathode ray tube which can offer up scenes from the Galaxy 
Being (an old series Outer Limits episode),. a "cosmic ray" detector (or even a 
real cloud chamber ??), etc.

Artifacts/tools of odd provenance, perhaps an impossible invention or two? 

It could be fun to design and fabricate some custom lab apparati using the 
laser, etc. I've always wanted to make a retro control panel that 
triggered vaguely ominous (say, throbbing low frequency) sounds synchronized 
with intense light as someone fiddled with the controls - perhaps the device is 
of mysterious origin or badly in need of repair and prone to overload 8^) 


Hmm, I seem more fixated on the creepy than the educational. If the project 
takes a direction like this, I also have a Paia theremin kit we could build and 
incorporate.

Large, oddball hunks of faceted or mirrored glass can draw people's attention, 
and given my obsessions I'd be interested in finding a way to incorporate such. 

Lastly, and especially if it turns out there's no need for a fancy retro control 
panel, let me know if anyone would be interested in creating a mini camera 
obscura (a Victorian device that uses a large, long focal length lens to cast a 
vivid, magnified image of a what it is pointing at into a darkened chamber). A 
camera obscura could probably be fit into many different themes. I was going to 
say not the shooting gallery, but then again, there might be a way to combine a 
live image of the Faire with projected targets, though that would require a 
setup in which a projector screen type surface was made compatible with 
detecting the aim and shots of players, which could be tricky. Perhaps a 
visually interesting, wire-thin grid or web of detectors right in front of the 
image?




________________________________
From: Christopher Cook <ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com>
To: Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
Sent: Sun, February 5, 2012 12:35:31 PM
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?

So Maker Faire.. yeah it's not until May but..... time flies when you're 
slacking off.

Aside from the usual table with the cupcake, led signs, maybe a book scanner.. 
creeper, dino  and what have you; is anyone interested in doing a larger group 
project to take and show? Probably something interactive to draw some eyes?

I'd love to hear some suggestions.

One idea I had was to build a 'shooting gallery'. We could meet together to 
decide on the gun/trigger (IR? Laser pointer?) design then we'd be able to work 
on our own to build different targets that could show off whatever we were 
interested in; a reaction on an led sign, some servo controlled something or 
other, spinny motor pinwheel, animatronic creeper head, sound effect, 
glock-n-roll? Anyway you get the picture. I think the idea of a group project ( 
but with lots of parts that can be worked on individually on our own schedules) 
would help show off AMT as more then just a shared workshop.

Chris
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From romanian at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 22:14:49 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 00:14:49 -0600
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in
 oakland: server security and how to keep radical sites safe
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Thats what they all say... But the reality is communism just cannot be, so
any expressed form is in fact real.
I wont get into it.

the workshop sounds interesting though.

On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
wrote:
> Eastern European communism was never really communism though.
>
> Do you hate my socialism?  :-)
>
> Al
>
> On Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM, "Stefan Hristu" <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Huh..., theholdout = communists?
>>
>> It seems that way based on their mission statements.
>>
>> I hate communists that never lived in communism.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland: server
>> > security and how to keep radical sites safe
>> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
>> > From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com>
>> > To: NoiseBridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>> >
>> > Hi noisebridge,
>> > I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
>> > discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.
>> >
>> > "Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
>> > list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
>> > wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet calls for
>> > sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
>> > about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
>> > context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street, which face
>> > surveillance and government repression both in the streets and
>> > online."
>> >
>> > Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.
>> >
>> > @The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening all day
>> > today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave, Oakland, CA
>> >
>> > read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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From myles at tenhand.com  Mon Feb  6 18:18:06 2012
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:18:06 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Tp link routers arrived
Message-ID: <A3646C56-D405-4FB0-8D80-9780CE3D3794@tenhand.com>

I won't be able to deliver this thurs, but can this weekend or next thurs. I ordered a few extras if you didn't get an order in in time. 

You can PayPal the amt treasurer in my name, or pay cod. 

Sent from my mobile

From drorex at gmail.com  Mon Feb  6 20:35:27 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 20:35:27 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
In-Reply-To: <CAMDVYoaU5nKY58Z8zqgEwvgxyiQB0_h3=f03kY0mPBKcQSPRxA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Christopher Cook <
ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com> wrote:

> So Maker Faire.. yeah it's not until May but..... time flies when you're
> slacking off.
>
> Aside from the usual table with the cupcake, led signs, maybe a book
> scanner.. creeper, dino  and what have you; is anyone interested in doing a
> larger group project to take and show? Probably something interactive to
> draw some eyes?
>
> I'd love to hear some suggestions.
>
> One idea I had was to build a 'shooting gallery'. We could meet together
> to decide on the gun/trigger (IR? Laser pointer?) design then we'd be able
> to work on our own to build different targets that could show off whatever
> we were interested in; a reaction on an led sign, some servo controlled
> something or other, spinny motor pinwheel, animatronic creeper head, sound
> effect, glock-n-roll? Anyway you get the picture. I think the idea of a
> group project ( but with lots of parts that can be worked on individually
> on our own schedules) would help show off AMT as more then just a shared
> workshop.
>
>
I'd be willing to help with this project, it sounds like fun, Are you
thinking making a bunch of targets and then telling people how to interface
them to their widgets? I could help brainstorm the mechanism as well.
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From drorex at gmail.com  Mon Feb  6 22:25:41 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 22:25:41 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeKrcJOajWN8OteKxqca5uMbBSpwsZmW1yPTJ1CQHLUGAw@mail.gmail.com>
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hmm maybe we should get one of these and hax it. 2 guns and 6 sensors for
$80: http://1saleaday.com/
On Feb 6, 2012 8:35 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Christopher Cook <
> ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com> wrote:
>
>> So Maker Faire.. yeah it's not until May but..... time flies when you're
>> slacking off.
>>
>> Aside from the usual table with the cupcake, led signs, maybe a book
>> scanner.. creeper, dino  and what have you; is anyone interested in doing a
>> larger group project to take and show? Probably something interactive to
>> draw some eyes?
>>
>> I'd love to hear some suggestions.
>>
>> One idea I had was to build a 'shooting gallery'. We could meet together
>> to decide on the gun/trigger (IR? Laser pointer?) design then we'd be able
>> to work on our own to build different targets that could show off whatever
>> we were interested in; a reaction on an led sign, some servo controlled
>> something or other, spinny motor pinwheel, animatronic creeper head, sound
>> effect, glock-n-roll? Anyway you get the picture. I think the idea of a
>> group project ( but with lots of parts that can be worked on individually
>> on our own schedules) would help show off AMT as more then just a shared
>> workshop.
>>
>>
> I'd be willing to help with this project, it sounds like fun, Are you
> thinking making a bunch of targets and then telling people how to interface
> them to their widgets? I could help brainstorm the mechanism as well.
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Feb  6 22:57:50 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:57:50 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
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On 2/6/12 10:25 PM, David Rorex wrote:
>
> hmm maybe we should get one of these and hax it. 2 guns and 6 sensors
> for $80: http://1saleaday.com/
>

That might work. I don't know the technical information on these but the
manual is up at
http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/manuals/battletag/Manuel-battletag-EN.pdf.

There is "MilesTag" as well: http://www.lasertagparts.com/mtdesign.htm

Then there is the Open Laser Tag project out of the London Hackspace.
I've spoken to them about it before.
http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Project:Open_Laser_Tag

Al



From tewing at gmail.com  Mon Feb  6 23:26:53 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 23:26:53 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
In-Reply-To: <4F30CB6E.5070604@openbuddha.com>
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I have some marketing experience and would be willing to help out a bit. Would anyone be willing to set up a meeting at the space to talk about Maker Faire plans?  

--Terry

On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:

> On 2/6/12 10:25 PM, David Rorex wrote:
>> 
>> hmm maybe we should get one of these and hax it. 2 guns and 6 sensors
>> for $80: http://1saleaday.com/
>> 
> 
> That might work. I don't know the technical information on these but the
> manual is up at
> http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/manuals/battletag/Manuel-battletag-EN.pdf.
> 
> There is "MilesTag" as well: http://www.lasertagparts.com/mtdesign.htm
> 
> Then there is the Open Laser Tag project out of the London Hackspace.
> I've spoken to them about it before.
> http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Project:Open_Laser_Tag
> 
> Al
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com  Mon Feb  6 23:43:50 2012
From: ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com (Christopher Cook)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 23:43:50 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
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Because the targets would be mostly stationary, probably hung on the wall
behind the table, or on poles; I wasn't thinking it needed to be anything
advanced or laser taggish ... Just a hand fabbed pistol with a laser
pointer and something like these:

http://www.robotroom.com/Laser-Detector-Remote-Control.html
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ehayashi/projects/lasercommand/

.. to act as the targets. Once activated then the 'widget' triggers and the
pinwheel spins, the jacobs ladder turns on, the glock-n-roll plays a song,
or the led sign says 'ouch', you know awesome stuff.

So we would need to get together to standardize the trigger circuit and
lasers, then we can split up  to work on different things to happen when it
goes high. We'll need 1-3 LASER PISTOLS put together to look kewl, maybe a
'pew pew' sound effect!

I'm away this week, but maybe we could talk about it at the meeting next
week.
Chris


On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Terry Ewing <tewing at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have some marketing experience and would be willing to help out a bit.
> Would anyone be willing to set up a meeting at the space to talk about
> Maker Faire plans?
>
> --Terry
>
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 2/6/12 10:25 PM, David Rorex wrote:
> >>
> >> hmm maybe we should get one of these and hax it. 2 guns and 6 sensors
> >> for $80: http://1saleaday.com/
> >>
> >
> > That might work. I don't know the technical information on these but the
> > manual is up at
> > http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/manuals/battletag/Manuel-battletag-EN.pdf.
> >
> > There is "MilesTag" as well: http://www.lasertagparts.com/mtdesign.htm
> >
> > Then there is the Open Laser Tag project out of the London Hackspace.
> > I've spoken to them about it before.
> > http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Project:Open_Laser_Tag
> >
> > Al
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  6 23:56:05 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 23:56:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Anyone at AMT Tues ~8:30-9pm to receive donations?
Message-ID: <1328601365.98770.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

I'm Steve Lussier, the guy who had the moving party on Friday. It turned 
out small and low key, but the truck got loaded.

Stemming from the same move, I have something I'm interested in donating to the 
workspace, ideally tomorrow evening when I still have the truck. 

It's a Quantum storage bin system that looks like 
this: http://www.quantum-bins.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showpart&partClassID=2500 
and that I think could really work well in the electronics area. 
  
The steel louvered panel, which is easy to mount on a wall, is three feet wide 
and about 5 feet tall (I told some people it was 3x6 feet, but I was forgetting 
that of course you don't mount it flush with the floor It *seems* six feet tall 
when it's mounted and bins are on it.). I have tons of small bins, plus an 
assortment of medium and a few quite large ones - all of which attach securely 
to the panel yet can be lifted off and moved easily. They are great for 
organizing tools as well as myriad parts, and of course you can reach right into 
them without pausing to open anything up.

So I'm hoping for: 
 - tentative buy-in that it is reasonable for me to bring this in; 
 - a hand moving the steel panel, which is large, heavy, and slightly flexible - 
awkward for a person of my modest upper body strength to carry alone - and maybe 
with the bins too. Though they're light, there are a lot of them.

So, any objections? and might anyone be on site tomorrow/Tuesday ~8:30-9pm and 
able to give me a hand? 

I have other things that seem appropriate for the space - parts, gizmos - and 
such, which we can also talk about, but most of that won't require the moving 
truck. 

Thanks, 

Steve
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From siris at hackaudio.org  Tue Feb  7 01:45:36 2012
From: siris at hackaudio.org (siris)
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:45:36 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in
 oakland: server security and how to keep radical sites safe
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marxism is best when discussed by people who have actually studied marx

 hack power.

On 02/05/12 22:14, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> Thats what they all say... But the reality is communism just cannot
> be, so any expressed form is in fact real.
> I wont get into it.
>
> the workshop sounds interesting though.
>
> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com
> <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
> > Eastern European communism was never really communism though.
> >
> > Do you hate my socialism?  :-)
> >
> > Al
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM, "Stefan Hristu" <romanian at gmail.com
> <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Huh..., theholdout = communists?
> >>
> >> It seems that way based on their mission statements.
> >>
> >> I hate communists that never lived in communism.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -------- Original Message --------
> >> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland: server
> >> > security and how to keep radical sites safe
> >> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
> >> > From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com <mailto:mfburdett at gmail.com>>
> >> > To: NoiseBridge Discuss
> <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> <mailto:noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>>
> >> >
> >> > Hi noisebridge,
> >> > I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
> >> > discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.
> >> >
> >> > "Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
> >> > list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
> >> > wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet calls for
> >> > sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
> >> > about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
> >> > context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street, which face
> >> > surveillance and government repression both in the streets and
> >> > online."
> >> >
> >> > Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.
> >> >
> >> > @The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening all day
> >> > today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave, Oakland, CA
> >> >
> >> > read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Discuss mailing list
> >> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
> >> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Discuss mailing list
> >> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
> >> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >>
> >
>
>
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From emprameen at gmail.com  Tue Feb  7 09:16:28 2012
From: emprameen at gmail.com (Rameen)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:16:28 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
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I sent this out a couple weeks ago. I said I'd be willing to help
coordinate/administrate if anyone wanted me =)
Dear Maker:


Strata Conference is hosting a Mini Maker Faire in Santa Clara on Tuesday,
February 28, 2012 and we would like to invite you to submit your project
for consideration. Our goal is to expose more people to the Maker movement,
which promotes innovation and a DIY approach at the intersection of art,
science, and technology. We are particularly interested in anything having
to do with sensors and data visualization, but don't be shy if you have
other project types as well.

Learn more and submit your project for consideration at:
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Feb  7 09:37:03 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:37:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in
 oakland: server security and how to keep radical sites safe
In-Reply-To: <4F30F2C0.3020506@hackaudio.org>
References: <4F2EF106.7040909@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwyeN3utxGdUUkf+S6o9JRLetE=owTbAp53Kw-3CJg3__Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Stefan grew up with some communism, so I wouldn't presume, siris.

I've actually read Marx as well. Thanks.

So, I'm not sure to whom you were responding that hasn't read his Marx.

Al

On 2/7/12 1:45 AM, siris wrote:
> marxism is best when discussed by people who have actually studied marx
>
>  hack power.
>
> On 02/05/12 22:14, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>> Thats what they all say... But the reality is communism just cannot
>> be, so any expressed form is in fact real.
>> I wont get into it.
>>
>> the workshop sounds interesting though.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>> > Eastern European communism was never really communism though.
>> >
>> > Do you hate my socialism?  :-)
>> >
>> > Al
>> >
>> > On Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM, "Stefan Hristu" <romanian at gmail.com
>> <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Huh..., theholdout = communists?
>> >>
>> >> It seems that way based on their mission statements.
>> >>
>> >> I hate communists that never lived in communism.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -------- Original Message --------
>> >> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland: server
>> >> > security and how to keep radical sites safe
>> >> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
>> >> > From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mfburdett at gmail.com>>
>> >> > To: NoiseBridge Discuss
>> <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> <mailto:noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>>
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi noisebridge,
>> >> > I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
>> >> > discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
>> >> > list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
>> >> > wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet
>> calls for
>> >> > sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
>> >> > about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
>> >> > context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street, which face
>> >> > surveillance and government repression both in the streets and
>> >> > online."
>> >> >
>> >> > Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.
>> >> >
>> >> > @The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening all day
>> >> > today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave,
>> Oakland, CA
>> >> >
>> >> > read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Discuss mailing list
>> >> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>> >> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >> >
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Discuss mailing list
>> >> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>> >> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Tue Feb  7 12:13:27 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:13:27 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Tp link routers arrived
In-Reply-To: <A3646C56-D405-4FB0-8D80-9780CE3D3794@tenhand.com>
References: <A3646C56-D405-4FB0-8D80-9780CE3D3794@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeLrPUZhsPXwyUgkDO+0aPViGya5hF1zKYQGVKWBOYdLrg@mail.gmail.com>

Something I've learned as treasurer is you have to harass people
individually to get money, general "don't forget to pay your dues everyone"
was never very effective. Hence why I eventually wrote the Automatic Dues
Harassment Bot 2000 to save me some work :)

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, myles <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:

> I won't be able to deliver this thurs, but can this weekend or next thurs.
> I ordered a few extras if you didn't get an order in in time.
>
> You can PayPal the amt treasurer in my name, or pay cod.
>
> Sent from my mobile
> _______________________________________________
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From louise.s.fox at gmail.com  Tue Feb  7 13:23:56 2012
From: louise.s.fox at gmail.com (Louise Fox)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:23:56 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] networking 2 day job
Message-ID: <CAPxmc0HZLmV_w3Uf0uSevAkAzSNC519E0H44mRc0YFnCEGAWqA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

I am looking for someone to help my company setup their network. We
have license files for autocad on one computer. We need to set it up
as a server and vpn in. Does anyone have experience setting things up
like this?

Thanks,

-- 
Louise Fox
Mechanical Engineer


From drorex at gmail.com  Tue Feb  7 13:40:02 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:40:02 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Anyone at AMT Tues ~8:30-9pm to receive donations?
In-Reply-To: <1328601365.98770.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1328601365.98770.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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It looks really useful to me, unfortunately I'm not gonna be in the area
today, hopefully someone else speaks up!


On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm Steve Lussier, the guy who had the moving party on Friday. It turned
> out small and low key, but the truck got loaded.
>
> Stemming from the same move, I have something I'm interested in donating
> to the workspace, ideally tomorrow evening when I still have the truck.
>
> It's a Quantum storage bin system that looks like this:
> http://www.quantum-bins.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showpart&partClassID=2500and that
>  I think could really work well in the electronics area.
>
> The steel louvered panel, which is easy to mount on a wall, is three feet
> wide and about 5 feet tall (I told some people it was 3x6 feet, but I was
> forgetting that of course you don't mount it flush with the floor It
> *seems* six feet tall when it's mounted and bins are on it.). I have tons
> of small bins, plus an assortment of medium and a few quite large ones -
> all of which attach securely to the panel yet can be lifted off and moved
> easily. They are great for organizing tools as well as myriad parts, and of
> course you can reach right into them without pausing to open anything up.
>
> So I'm hoping for:
>  - tentative buy-in that it is reasonable for me to bring this in;
>  - a hand moving the steel panel, which is large, heavy, and slightly
> flexible - awkward for a person of my modest upper body strength to carry
> alone - and maybe with the bins too. Though they're light, there are a
> lot of them.
>
> So, any objections? and might anyone be on site tomorrow/Tuesday
> ~8:30-9pm and able to give me a hand?
>
> I have other things that seem appropriate for the space - parts, gizmos -
> and such, which we can also talk about, but most of that won't require the
> moving truck.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Feb  7 13:52:28 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:52:28 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Anyone at AMT Tues ~8:30-9pm to receive donations?
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXe+MNpjBGBH2sGXgQZ7L0gtd0vWmYgO8H2B-8g_riZ3mUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1328601365.98770.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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I agree but I'm in Santa Cruz all week for work.

On 2/7/12 1:40 PM, David Rorex wrote:
> It looks really useful to me, unfortunately I'm not gonna be in the
> area today, hopefully someone else speaks up!
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com
> <mailto:sp_lussier at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi All,
>
>     I'm Steve Lussier, the guy who had the moving party on Friday. It
>     turned out small and low key, but the truck got loaded.
>
>     Stemming from the same move, I have something I'm interested in
>     donating to the workspace, ideally tomorrow evening when I still
>     have the truck. 
>
>     It's a Quantum storage bin system that looks like
>     this: http://www.quantum-bins.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showpart&partClassID=2500
>     <http://www.quantum-bins.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showpart&partClassID=2500>
>     and that I think could really work well in the electronics area. 
>       
>     The steel louvered panel, which is easy to mount on a wall, is
>     three feet wide and about 5 feet tall (I told some people it was
>     3x6 feet, but I was forgetting that of course you don't mount it
>     flush with the floor It *seems* six feet tall when it's mounted
>     and bins are on it.). I have tons of small bins, plus an
>     assortment of medium and a few quite large ones - all of which
>     attach securely to the panel yet can be lifted off and moved
>     easily. They are great for organizing tools as well as myriad
>     parts, and of course you can reach right into them without pausing
>     to open anything up.
>
>     So I'm hoping for: 
>      - tentative buy-in that it is reasonable for me to bring this in; 
>      - a hand moving the steel panel, which is large, heavy, and
>     slightly flexible - awkward for a person of my modest upper body
>     strength to carry alone - and maybe with the bins too. Though
>     they're light, there are a lot of them.
>
>     So, any objections? and might anyone be on site tomorrow/Tuesday
>     ~8:30-9pm and able to give me a hand? 
>
>     I have other things that seem appropriate for the space - parts,
>     gizmos - and such, which we can also talk about, but most of that
>     won't require the moving truck. 
>
>     Thanks, 
>
>     Steve
>

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From rachel at xtreme.com  Tue Feb  7 19:00:11 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:00:11 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Anyone at AMT Tues ~8:30-9pm to receive donations?
In-Reply-To: <4F319D1C.4080700@openbuddha.com>
References: <1328601365.98770.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CACAQXe+MNpjBGBH2sGXgQZ7L0gtd0vWmYgO8H2B-8g_riZ3mUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F319D1C.4080700@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <4F31E53B.4050807@xtreme.com>

Hi Steve,

I just came by the space and realized I could be here at that time if I 
come back... but Costa is here now and says he will likely be here 
around then.  He says call him 510-414-7292.  If he has to leave, go 
ahead and call me, 415-810-1022 and I'll come let you in (let me know 
before 9 if possible as I have a borrowed vehicle).

Thanks for the donation!

Rachel

On 2/7/12 1:52 PM, Al Jigong Billings wrote:
> I agree but I'm in Santa Cruz all week for work.
>
> On 2/7/12 1:40 PM, David Rorex wrote:
>> It looks really useful to me, unfortunately I'm not gonna be in the
>> area today, hopefully someone else speaks up!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:56 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:sp_lussier at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi All,
>>
>>     I'm Steve Lussier, the guy who had the moving party on Friday. It
>>     turned out small and low key, but the truck got loaded.
>>
>>     Stemming from the same move, I have something I'm interested in
>>     donating to the workspace, ideally tomorrow evening when I still
>>     have the truck.
>>
>>     It's aQuantum storage bin system that looks like this:
>>     http://www.quantum-bins.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showpart&partClassID=2500
>>     <http://www.quantum-bins.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showpart&partClassID=2500>
>>     and that I think could really work well in the electronics area.
>>     The steel louvered panel, which is easy to mount on a wall, is
>>     three feet wide and about 5 feet tall (I told some people it was
>>     3x6 feet, but I was forgetting that of course you don't mount it
>>     flush with the floor It *seems* six feet tall when it's mounted
>>     and bins are on it.). I have tons of small bins, plus an
>>     assortment of medium and a few quite large ones - all of which
>>     attach securely to the panel yet can be lifted off and moved
>>     easily. They are great for organizing tools as well as myriad
>>     parts, and of course you can reach right into them without pausing
>>     to open anything up.
>>
>>     So I'm hoping for:
>>     - tentative buy-in that it is reasonable for me to bring this in;
>>     - a hand moving the steel panel, which is large, heavy, and
>>     slightly flexible - awkward for a person of my modest upper body
>>     strength to carry alone - and maybe with the bins too. Though
>>     they're light, there are a lot of them.
>>
>>     So, any objections? and might anyone be on site tomorrow/Tuesday
>>     ~8:30-9pm and able to give me a hand?
>>
>>     I have other things that seem appropriate for the space - parts,
>>     gizmos - and such, which we can also talk about, but most of that
>>     won't require the moving truck.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     Steve
>>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From siris at hackaudio.org  Wed Feb  8 12:02:03 2012
From: siris at hackaudio.org (siris)
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:02:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in
 oakland: server security and how to keep radical sites safe
In-Reply-To: <4F31613F.7040202@openbuddha.com>
References: <4F2EF106.7040909@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwyeN3utxGdUUkf+S6o9JRLetE=owTbAp53Kw-3CJg3__Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMY+0UJzPKptdcgf3QACPPZNtQvFFQAL1xT5H_FAwQDfs41X0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSww-rU16ZpcZZkwi4HGEYzEjnaCU4Vx7HZn=ki287vzpGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F30F2C0.3020506@hackaudio.org> <4F31613F.7040202@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <4F32D4BB.6040105@hackaudio.org>

it was a play on ambiguity and dialectics.

I see how what I posted could be interpreted that way. On the other
hand, you could read it from the completely other perspective, i.e. the
presumption that the discussion pressupposed familiarity with Marx, and
that the thread was actually quite a gem, hence the props at the end.

'communism just cannot be, so any expressed form is in fact real'

This could be straight out of Zizek, or from some uninformed troll who
read about Marx in middle school in a Newt Skywalker sci-fi novel. I
read it as the first, so was hoping stefan would 'get into it' a bit
more, actually.

but this list is definitely not the place. its all good bakery, maybe.



On 02/07/12 09:37, Al Jigong Billings wrote:
> Stefan grew up with some communism, so I wouldn't presume, siris.
>
> I've actually read Marx as well. Thanks.
>
> So, I'm not sure to whom you were responding that hasn't read his Marx.
>
> Al
>
> On 2/7/12 1:45 AM, siris wrote:
>> marxism is best when discussed by people who have actually studied marx
>>
>>  hack power.
>>
>> On 02/05/12 22:14, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>>> Thats what they all say... But the reality is communism just cannot
>>> be, so any expressed form is in fact real.
>>> I wont get into it.
>>>
>>> the workshop sounds interesting though.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings
>>> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>>> > Eastern European communism was never really communism though.
>>> >
>>> > Do you hate my socialism?  :-)
>>> >
>>> > Al
>>> >
>>> > On Feb 5, 2012 2:17 PM, "Stefan Hristu" <romanian at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Huh..., theholdout = communists?
>>> >>
>>> >> It seems that way based on their mission statements.
>>> >>
>>> >> I hate communists that never lived in communism.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sunday, February 5, 2012, Al Jigong Billings
>>> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -------- Original Message --------
>>> >> > Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] mini-hackmeet 2/18 in oakland:
>>> server
>>> >> > security and how to keep radical sites safe
>>> >> > Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 12:03:37 -0800
>>> >> > From: mark burdett <mfburdett at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:mfburdett at gmail.com>>
>>> >> > To: NoiseBridge Discuss
>>> <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>>> <mailto:noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi noisebridge,
>>> >> > I wanted to invite y'all to Hackmeet 2.2, an afternoon workshop and
>>> >> > discussion on server security and how to keep radical sites safe.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Servers hosting radical websites and services face an ever-growing
>>> >> > list of threats, ranging from right-wing hax0rs and DDOS attacks to
>>> >> > wiretaps, grand jury subpoenas and server seizure. Hackmeet
>>> calls for
>>> >> > sysadmins, hackers, and 'net freedom fighters to join a discussion
>>> >> > about server security threats, techniques and best practices in the
>>> >> > context of social movements, such as Occupy Wall Street, which face
>>> >> > surveillance and government repression both in the streets and
>>> >> > online."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Saturday, Feb. 18th, noon to 5 p.m.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > @The Holdout (which, by the way, is having its grand opening
>>> all day
>>> >> > today if you're in the neighborhood): 2313 San Pablo Ave,
>>> Oakland, CA
>>> >> >
>>> >> > read more: https://hackmeet.org/wiki/hackmeet-22-server-security
>>> >> >
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>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Thu Feb  9 00:01:45 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 00:01:45 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Maker faire projects/plans/ideas?
In-Reply-To: <CALTN=Usn=32tXOYHc4TwYPByi9Zg6XMAoRZjdtktDubPNA4MYg@mail.gmail.com>
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Wish i could commit for a project, but new awesome job forbids me... :(

On Tuesday, February 7, 2012, Rameen <emprameen at gmail.com> wrote:
> I sent this out a couple weeks ago. I said I'd be willing to help
coordinate/administrate if anyone wanted me =)
> Dear Maker:
>
>
> Strata Conference is hosting a Mini Maker Faire in Santa Clara on
Tuesday, February 28, 2012 and we would like to invite you to submit your
project for consideration. Our goal is to expose more people to the Maker
movement, which promotes innovation and a DIY approach at the intersection
of art, science, and technology. We are particularly interested in anything
having to do with sensors and data visualization, but don't be shy if you
have other project types as well.
>
> Learn more and submit your project for consideration at:
> http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1z759pku79aa9juglvmtsequhkrig3m5fnbelt56g
>
> We hope to hear from you soon,
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Feb  9 10:16:45 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:16:45 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] We're mentioned in the Guardian today
Message-ID: <4F340D8D.90804@openbuddha.com>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sustainable-business/sustainability-emerging-trend-local-manufacturing

Of course, we don't get a hyperlink!

Al



From me at robbiet.us  Thu Feb  9 11:29:37 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:29:37 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] GitHub CoderDojo Class for Kids in SF on February 25th
Message-ID: <CAPs-5xUjiwphv-u7cYDqeSvrkxFT1AxgQf-z+QORNcTt9_=EuA@mail.gmail.com>

GitHub just announced they are running a CoderDojo class at their office on
February 25th. It's a free class so if you have kids you should take them
so they can learn to program!

More info is available here:
https://github.com/blog/1034-kids-are-the-future-teach-em-to-code
Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
925-884-3728
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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  9 13:12:53 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:12:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Retro / mad scientist /educational tinkering
Message-ID: <1328821973.96158.YahooMailRC@web83604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

First, many thanks to Ben, Mike and [er...bearded laser guy] for the help moving 
the quantum rack/bins into the space. Rachel, sorry I missed your offer, but it 
was also appreciated. Last I heard, the metal plate for wall attachment was 
downstairs, and the bins, with a few other goodies, were in some boxes 
upstairs. 

I have a few more bins that I'll bring in soon, and lots more tinkery goodies I 
can add, but regarding the latter I want to take a little time getting a feel 
for what folks are interested in before I risk cluttering things up too much. 

On that front, I want to start sounding people out about a few areas of 
interest. Aside from the 'standard' arduino/robotics/Fab interests, I have a 
thing for:
1) Analog circuitry in general, including BEAM 
robotics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BEAM_robotics
2) Analog audio, including synths, but also simple circuits, playing with sound, 
and "circuit bending" kids audio toys or old radios -- which I know from 
experience is a great hook for getting younger kids mesmerized by and learning 
about the basics of electronics.
3) Optics of all kinds, with a DIY refractor leaning and a love of just playing 
with cutting & shaping big hunks of glass. 
4) Mad-scientisty gizmos and control panels created for fun. My aesthetic is a 
bit less steampunk and a bit more Deco, FWIW.
5)Light/lamps/LEDs

Thinking about all that, and about my 'crazy lab apparatus' idea for the Maker 
Faire project, it occurred to me that a lot of my tinkery interest has a 
retro/analog flavor. I have huge enthusiasm for the practical/new industrial 
revolution angle that AMT has focused on, and believe it to be profoundly 
historically significant. But my calling personally is more to a sense of wonder 
and a "you can just grab some old junk and repurpose it into amazingness" idea. 
Not to deny that all of us love to repurpose junk into amazingness. I'm just 
groping to clarify a difference in perspective/taste that is partly generational 
I'm sure (I grew up watching all those old horror/scifi movies) and partly 
allied to my interest in innovative science educ curriculum development and a 
look toward simple components toward that end. 

At any rate, that's perhaps a bit rambly, but I wanted to introduce the topics 
-- as a way of starting to sound people out regarding potential corners of the 
workspace for audio-oriented and/or optics-oriented hacking. 

Actions and artifacts speak louder, I know. I'll make something weird, and also 
learn my way around the Arduino/FAB/etc equipment better. I'd like to set up an 
informal circuit-bending activity night (kids welcome) some time in the next few 
weeks if there's any interest.

I'll be at the meeting tonight if anyone has thoughts or questions about any of 
this stuff.

Cheers,

Steve
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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  9 13:16:43 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:16:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Retro / mad scientist /educational tinkering
In-Reply-To: <1328821973.96158.YahooMailRC@web83604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1328821973.96158.YahooMailRC@web83604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1328822203.2001.YahooMailRC@web83604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

As a possibly related aside (exactly how it's related may seem an open question; 
ask me about Neurodiversity and my somewhat non-linear brain ;)  -   and for 
those of you who can handle breathlessly optimistic Rheingoldesque visions of 
the networking-transformed future, check this 
out: http://emergentbydesign.com/2012/02/09/bootstrapping-humanitys-next-os/



________________________________
From: steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com>
To: discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
Sent: Thu, February 9, 2012 1:12:53 PM
Subject: [AMTD] Retro / mad scientist /educational tinkering


First, many thanks to Ben, Mike and [er...bearded laser guy] for the help moving 
the quantum rack/bins into the space. Rachel, sorry I missed your offer, but it 
was also appreciated. Last I heard, the metal plate for wall attachment was 
downstairs, and the bins, with a few other goodies, were in some boxes 
upstairs. 

I have a few more bins that I'll bring in soon, and lots more tinkery goodies I 
can add, but regarding the latter I want to take a little time getting a feel 
for what folks are interested in before I risk cluttering things up too much. 

On that front, I want to start sounding people out about a few areas of 
interest. Aside from the 'standard' arduino/robotics/Fab interests, I have a 
thing for:
1) Analog circuitry in general,  including BEAM 
robotics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BEAM_robotics
2) Analog audio, including synths, but also simple circuits, playing with sound, 
and "circuit bending" kids audio toys or old radios -- which I know from 
experience is a great hook for getting younger kids mesmerized by and learning 
about the basics of electronics.
3) Optics of all kinds, with a DIY refractor leaning and a love of just playing 
with cutting & shaping big hunks of glass. 
4) Mad-scientisty gizmos and control panels created for fun. My aesthetic is a 
bit less steampunk and a bit more Deco, FWIW.
5)Light/lamps/LEDs

Thinking about all that, and about my 'crazy lab apparatus' idea for the Maker 
Faire project, it occurred to me  that a lot of my tinkery interest has a 
retro/analog flavor. I have huge enthusiasm for the practical/new industrial 
revolution angle that AMT has focused on, and believe it to be profoundly 
historically significant. But my calling personally is more to a sense of wonder 
and a "you can just grab some old junk and repurpose it into amazingness" idea. 
Not to deny that all of us love to repurpose junk into amazingness. I'm just 
groping to clarify a difference in perspective/taste that is partly generational 
I'm sure (I grew up watching all those old horror/scifi movies) and partly 
allied to my interest in innovative science educ curriculum development and a 
look toward simple components toward that end. 

At any rate, that's perhaps a bit rambly, but I wanted to introduce the topics 
-- as a way of starting to sound people out regarding potential corners of the 
workspace for audio-oriented and/or optics-oriented  hacking. 

Actions and artifacts speak louder, I know. I'll make something weird, and also 
learn my way around the Arduino/FAB/etc equipment better. I'd like to set up an 
informal circuit-bending activity night (kids welcome) some time in the next few 
weeks if there's any interest.

I'll be at the meeting tonight if anyone has thoughts or questions about any of 
this stuff.

Cheers,

Steve
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From slick at rebelbase.com  Thu Feb  9 21:18:51 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 21:18:51 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
Message-ID: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>

silly iPhone users

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone


From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 00:12:58 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:12:58 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>

silly us for not making $1 million off of iPhone users

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:

> silly iPhone users
>
>
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone
> _______________________________________________
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From robertcook at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 09:06:34 2012
From: robertcook at gmail.com (Robert Cook)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:06:34 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
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How about a milled titanium stand to hold up the aluminum Elevation stand? We could shape it like a turtle and people would stack them. 

On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:12 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> silly us for not making $1 million off of iPhone users
> 
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
> silly iPhone users
> 
> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
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From me at robbiet.us  Fri Feb 10 09:38:28 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:38:28 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <5EFAC497-088D-4C95-AFEF-534AB9D37716@gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EFAC497-088D-4C95-AFEF-534AB9D37716@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPs-5xWTx8gZyugL8mgqhu7FoUG4q2M7vfYEZ=T2P6ADLjrJ=g@mail.gmail.com>

I backed the project. It's the best iPhone dock I have ever seen, and
matches my MacBook Pro and iMac's single, unibody, piece of milled
aluminum. It's like Jonny Ive himself sculpted it.

Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
925-884-3728
robbie.io



On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Cook <robertcook at gmail.com> wrote:

> How about a milled titanium stand to hold up the aluminum Elevation stand?
> We could shape it like a turtle and people would stack them.
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:12 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> silly us for not making $1 million off of iPhone users
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>
>> silly iPhone users
>>
>>
>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
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From robertcook at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 11:16:25 2012
From: robertcook at gmail.com (Robert Cook)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:16:25 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <CAPs-5xWTx8gZyugL8mgqhu7FoUG4q2M7vfYEZ=T2P6ADLjrJ=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EFAC497-088D-4C95-AFEF-534AB9D37716@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <F934E82A-1CE2-4BF8-9640-F015809F0A6C@gmail.com>

It reminds me of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock

I'm an apple fanboy, but I have a hard time getting excited about a chunk of metal.

On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:

> I backed the project. It's the best iPhone dock I have ever seen, and matches my MacBook Pro and iMac's single, unibody, piece of milled aluminum. It's like Jonny Ive himself sculpted it. 
> 
> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie)
> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
> 925-884-3728
> robbie.io
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Cook <robertcook at gmail.com> wrote:
> How about a milled titanium stand to hold up the aluminum Elevation stand? We could shape it like a turtle and people would stack them. 
> 
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:12 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> silly us for not making $1 million off of iPhone users
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>> silly iPhone users
>> 
>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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> 
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From tewing at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 11:45:15 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:45:15 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <F934E82A-1CE2-4BF8-9640-F015809F0A6C@gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EFAC497-088D-4C95-AFEF-534AB9D37716@gmail.com>
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	<F934E82A-1CE2-4BF8-9640-F015809F0A6C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AF3BC40B-D95B-49E0-BCDD-0C77C7D42FE2@gmail.com>

You guys are crazy because this product looks awesome.  I have about three iphone docks and they all frustrate me for exactly the reasons he said.   They're not weighted so you have to hold it down while you undock and they don't work well if you have a case on your phone.  This thing is a CNC machined and glass-bead finished piece of aluminum that looks awesome.  I think I'm going to order one.

On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Robert Cook wrote:

> It reminds me of:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock
> 
> I'm an apple fanboy, but I have a hard time getting excited about a chunk of metal.
> 
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
> 
>> I backed the project. It's the best iPhone dock I have ever seen, and matches my MacBook Pro and iMac's single, unibody, piece of milled aluminum. It's like Jonny Ive himself sculpted it. 
>> 
>> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie)
>> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
>> 925-884-3728
>> robbie.io
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Cook <robertcook at gmail.com> wrote:
>> How about a milled titanium stand to hold up the aluminum Elevation stand? We could shape it like a turtle and people would stack them. 
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:12 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> silly us for not making $1 million off of iPhone users
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>> silly iPhone users
>>> 
>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> 
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Fri Feb 10 11:49:03 2012
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:49:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <AF3BC40B-D95B-49E0-BCDD-0C77C7D42FE2@gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EFAC497-088D-4C95-AFEF-534AB9D37716@gmail.com>
	<CAPs-5xWTx8gZyugL8mgqhu7FoUG4q2M7vfYEZ=T2P6ADLjrJ=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<F934E82A-1CE2-4BF8-9640-F015809F0A6C@gmail.com>
	<AF3BC40B-D95B-49E0-BCDD-0C77C7D42FE2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABZdcAmzzN=UNRLRJvu+LzxZq8G8TRbLcCr_JRmM+5UyX90Hfw@mail.gmail.com>

I think it's interesting that he probably had the manufacturing
capacity for a few hundred, expecting to be able to produce them with
only $75k. Now he has orders for over 10,000 of them, which means he
can scale his manufacturing massively, and pocket a lot more of the
cash due to the price cut of quantity.

Still, $90 is a whole lot of money to pay for a problem I solved with velcro.

--
Steve

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Terry Ewing <tewing at gmail.com> wrote:
> You guys are crazy because this product looks awesome. ?I have about three
> iphone docks and they all frustrate me for exactly the reasons he said.
> They're not weighted so you have to hold it down while you undock and they
> don't work well if you have a case on your phone. ?This thing is a CNC
> machined and glass-bead finished piece of aluminum that looks awesome. ?I
> think I'm going to order one.
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Robert Cook wrote:
>
> It reminds me of:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock
>
> I'm an apple fanboy, but I have a hard time getting excited about a chunk of
> metal.
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
>
> I backed the project. It's the best iPhone dock I have ever seen, and
> matches my MacBook Pro and iMac's single, unibody, piece of milled aluminum.
> It's like Jonny Ive himself sculpted it.
>
> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie)
> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
> 925-884-3728
> robbie.io
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Cook <robertcook at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> How about a milled titanium stand to hold up the aluminum Elevation stand?
>> We could shape it like a turtle and people would stack them.
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:12 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> silly us for not making $1 million off of iPhone users
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> silly iPhone users
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
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>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 11:51:59 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:51:59 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <CABZdcAmzzN=UNRLRJvu+LzxZq8G8TRbLcCr_JRmM+5UyX90Hfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EFAC497-088D-4C95-AFEF-534AB9D37716@gmail.com>
	<CAPs-5xWTx8gZyugL8mgqhu7FoUG4q2M7vfYEZ=T2P6ADLjrJ=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<F934E82A-1CE2-4BF8-9640-F015809F0A6C@gmail.com>
	<AF3BC40B-D95B-49E0-BCDD-0C77C7D42FE2@gmail.com>
	<CABZdcAmzzN=UNRLRJvu+LzxZq8G8TRbLcCr_JRmM+5UyX90Hfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwxmOBut97Pcp7w9_i9AepwSOQB-RLC7+_V_4uPoyOXpSg@mail.gmail.com>

methinks double sided tape.
few things in life are not fixable with tape...

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
> I think it's interesting that he probably had the manufacturing
> capacity for a few hundred, expecting to be able to produce them with
> only $75k. Now he has orders for over 10,000 of them, which means he
> can scale his manufacturing massively, and pocket a lot more of the
> cash due to the price cut of quantity.
>
> Still, $90 is a whole lot of money to pay for a problem I solved with velcro.
>
> --
> Steve
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Terry Ewing <tewing at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You guys are crazy because this product looks awesome. ?I have about three
>> iphone docks and they all frustrate me for exactly the reasons he said.
>> They're not weighted so you have to hold it down while you undock and they
>> don't work well if you have a case on your phone. ?This thing is a CNC
>> machined and glass-bead finished piece of aluminum that looks awesome. ?I
>> think I'm going to order one.
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Robert Cook wrote:
>>
>> It reminds me of:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock
>>
>> I'm an apple fanboy, but I have a hard time getting excited about a chunk of
>> metal.
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
>>
>> I backed the project. It's the best iPhone dock I have ever seen, and
>> matches my MacBook Pro and iMac's single, unibody, piece of milled aluminum.
>> It's like Jonny Ive himself sculpted it.
>>
>> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie)
>> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
>> 925-884-3728
>> robbie.io
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Cook <robertcook at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> How about a milled titanium stand to hold up the aluminum Elevation stand?
>>> We could shape it like a turtle and people would stack them.
>>>
>>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:12 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> silly us for not making $1 million off of iPhone users
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> silly iPhone users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
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>>
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>>
>>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri Feb 10 11:55:26 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:55:26 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwxmOBut97Pcp7w9_i9AepwSOQB-RLC7+_V_4uPoyOXpSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EFAC497-088D-4C95-AFEF-534AB9D37716@gmail.com>
	<CAPs-5xWTx8gZyugL8mgqhu7FoUG4q2M7vfYEZ=T2P6ADLjrJ=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<F934E82A-1CE2-4BF8-9640-F015809F0A6C@gmail.com>
	<AF3BC40B-D95B-49E0-BCDD-0C77C7D42FE2@gmail.com>
	<CABZdcAmzzN=UNRLRJvu+LzxZq8G8TRbLcCr_JRmM+5UyX90Hfw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwxmOBut97Pcp7w9_i9AepwSOQB-RLC7+_V_4uPoyOXpSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F35762E.1060303@openbuddha.com>

On 2/10/12 11:51 AM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> methinks double sided tape.
> few things in life are not fixable with tape...
>
LOTS of tape.

Al


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri Feb 10 11:55:40 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:55:40 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?
Message-ID: <4F35763C.3030900@openbuddha.com>

Did anyone take notes last night?


From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 12:09:02 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:09:02 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?
In-Reply-To: <4F35763C.3030900@openbuddha.com>
References: <4F35763C.3030900@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeK4=TDPQ0maO72QauSx7k4YAgvuB1sR8_cY4SfjZo38_w@mail.gmail.com>

I've been taking very poor notes for the last three meetings:
http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Category:Meetings

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Did anyone take notes last night?
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 10 12:12:15 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:12:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?
In-Reply-To: <4F35763C.3030900@openbuddha.com>
References: <4F35763C.3030900@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <1328904735.13457.YahooMailRC@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Without your guiding hand the meeting ran pretty brief.  I think the only 
decisions of substance were to give fobs to all members of Occupy Oakland, and 
to declare Ace the official "FTPolice March" afterparty location and crash pad.

Lotta new members too ;)



________________________________
From: Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
To: Ace Monster Toys Discussion <discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
Sent: Fri, February 10, 2012 11:55:40 AM
Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?

Did anyone take notes last night?
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From me at robbiet.us  Fri Feb 10 12:13:38 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:13:38 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?
In-Reply-To: <1328904735.13457.YahooMailRC@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <4F35763C.3030900@openbuddha.com>
	<1328904735.13457.YahooMailRC@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <-393889406854416647@unknownmsgid>

Also I was made BDFL.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2012, at 1:12 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com> wrote:

Without your guiding hand the meeting ran pretty brief.  I think the only
decisions of substance were to give fobs to all members of Occupy Oakland,
and to declare Ace the official "FTPolice March" afterparty location and
crash pad.

Lotta new members too ;)


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*To:* Ace Monster Toys Discussion <discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
*Sent:* Fri, February 10, 2012 11:55:40 AM
*Subject:* [AMTD] Notes for last night?

Did anyone take notes last night?
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From robertcook at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 12:56:43 2012
From: robertcook at gmail.com (Robert Cook)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:56:43 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?
In-Reply-To: <-393889406854416647@unknownmsgid>
References: <4F35763C.3030900@openbuddha.com>
	<1328904735.13457.YahooMailRC@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<-393889406854416647@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <6B1AB29B-E064-4F7B-941D-141BB3C51BFC@gmail.com>

I believe you now get a CNC-milled aluminum crown.

On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:

> Also I was made BDFL. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 1:12 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Without your guiding hand the meeting ran pretty brief.  I think the only decisions of substance were to give fobs to all members of Occupy Oakland, and to declare Ace the official "FTPolice March" afterparty location and crash pad.
>> 
>> Lotta new members too ;)
>> 
>> 
>> From: Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
>> To: Ace Monster Toys Discussion <discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>> Sent: Fri, February 10, 2012 11:55:40 AM
>> Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?
>> 
>> Did anyone take notes last night?
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
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From slick at rebelbase.com  Fri Feb 10 14:13:45 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:13:45 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?
In-Reply-To: <6B1AB29B-E064-4F7B-941D-141BB3C51BFC@gmail.com>
References: <4F35763C.3030900@openbuddha.com>
	<1328904735.13457.YahooMailRC@web83607.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<-393889406854416647@unknownmsgid>
	<6B1AB29B-E064-4F7B-941D-141BB3C51BFC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmuSosmt4=3-o2A9xU2hmoKxvpNC47YN=uE=kG6vwt58yynsQ@mail.gmail.com>

relevant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RnIvhlKT7SY#t=97s

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Robert Cook <robertcook at gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe you now get a CNC-milled aluminum crown.
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
>
> Also I was made BDFL.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 1:12 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Without your guiding hand the meeting ran pretty brief. ?I think the only
> decisions of substance were to give fobs to all members of Occupy Oakland,
> and to?declare Ace the official "FTPolice March" afterparty location and
> crash pad.
>
> Lotta new members too ;)
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> To: Ace Monster Toys Discussion <discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
> Sent: Fri, February 10, 2012 11:55:40 AM
> Subject: [AMTD] Notes for last night?
>
> Did anyone take notes last night?
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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>
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From tewing at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 16:23:48 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:23:48 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] sous vide / arduino / pid
Message-ID: <DD8C8FA9-76CF-43A2-8277-4A3DAF615D81@gmail.com>

I know both Aaron and Costa have used the Arduino PID library before.  I'm looking to make a simple Arduino PID coupled with a thermocouple or thermistor.  Does anyone have code and the time to show me how to connect the thermocouple to the arduino?  

I'd like to be able to use a PT-100 sesor, but a K-type thermocouple would probably be fine.  I'm not sure if I need an op-amp circuit or if I can interface the sensor directly to an arduino pin.

From slick at rebelbase.com  Sat Feb 11 09:23:52 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:23:52 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] 1st kickstarter Project to break $1 Million
In-Reply-To: <AF3BC40B-D95B-49E0-BCDD-0C77C7D42FE2@gmail.com>
References: <CAMmuSov2ZzCPt90Fr7_KJva=RggGh58W9Mm01y1E=3QxSKAzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeLrkgVnWt--Qn=rPf9DcAE3tPxO9147KBS7D_UfQfRWDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5EFAC497-088D-4C95-AFEF-534AB9D37716@gmail.com>
	<CAPs-5xWTx8gZyugL8mgqhu7FoUG4q2M7vfYEZ=T2P6ADLjrJ=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<F934E82A-1CE2-4BF8-9640-F015809F0A6C@gmail.com>
	<AF3BC40B-D95B-49E0-BCDD-0C77C7D42FE2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmuSoszJHwiufmAeML=3oEnxJ2g0s81tTHEAa-rYSCy+wkvZw@mail.gmail.com>

My point was that it is pretty much just iphones that use "docks."  My
phone just plugs in via USB. It is a phone, not a museum display.  If
I have to use it while it is plugged in I can pick up up and use it
and it stays plugged in.  The whole dock paradigm for phones is a
boondoggle IMO.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Terry Ewing <tewing at gmail.com> wrote:
> You guys are crazy because this product looks awesome. ?I have about three
> iphone docks and they all frustrate me for exactly the reasons he said.
> They're not weighted so you have to hold it down while you undock and they
> don't work well if you have a case on your phone. ?This thing is a CNC
> machined and glass-bead finished piece of aluminum that looks awesome. ?I
> think I'm going to order one.
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Robert Cook wrote:
>
> It reminds me of:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock
>
> I'm an apple fanboy, but I have a hard time getting excited about a chunk of
> metal.
>
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
>
> I backed the project. It's the best iPhone dock I have ever seen, and
> matches my MacBook Pro and iMac's single, unibody, piece of milled aluminum.
> It's like Jonny Ive himself sculpted it.
>
> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie)
> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
> 925-884-3728
> robbie.io
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Cook <robertcook at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> How about a milled titanium stand to hold up the aluminum Elevation stand?
>> We could shape it like a turtle and people would stack them.
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:12 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> silly us for not making $1 million off of iPhone users
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> silly iPhone users
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
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From louise.s.fox at gmail.com  Sat Feb 11 13:13:13 2012
From: louise.s.fox at gmail.com (Louise Fox)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:13:13 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] giant popup book peopel
Message-ID: <CAPxmc0Er40n7=HVu1GFk3NvQCuZDie-mpHimGaCv+5c-4f_vVg@mail.gmail.com>

hey guys...

I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
cool.

!!!

-- 
Louise Fox
Mechanical Engineer


From romanian at gmail.com  Sat Feb 11 13:15:34 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:15:34 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] giant popup book peopel
In-Reply-To: <CAPxmc0Er40n7=HVu1GFk3NvQCuZDie-mpHimGaCv+5c-4f_vVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPxmc0Er40n7=HVu1GFk3NvQCuZDie-mpHimGaCv+5c-4f_vVg@mail.gmail.com>
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I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.

Stefan
On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:

> hey guys...
>
> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
> cool.
>
> !!!
>
> --
> Louise Fox
> Mechanical Engineer
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Feb 11 13:58:36 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:58:36 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] giant popup book peopel
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwwPJsPc5DUn-tqw_2U9xatevsenzk7X5zWocvkV9ko=Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPxmc0Er40n7=HVu1GFk3NvQCuZDie-mpHimGaCv+5c-4f_vVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwwPJsPc5DUn-tqw_2U9xatevsenzk7X5zWocvkV9ko=Bw@mail.gmail.com>
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When did I say that?

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>
> Stefan
> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hey guys...
>>
>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>> cool.
>>
>> !!!
>>
>> --
>> Louise Fox
>> Mechanical Engineer
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Feb 11 14:10:45 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:10:45 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Ben at 3:00
Message-ID: <CAMY+0UKob0tZBkOCyWARWPuyXCwDGq2ThFsSnHvXKAjz5pd=0A@mail.gmail.com>

I'm meeting Ben at the space at 3:00 to loom at the progress on the
bookscanner.

Al
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From romanian at gmail.com  Sat Feb 11 14:13:08 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:13:08 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] giant popup book peopel
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeJo-yBEDJ+U74=Zo36KPiRimSdnhpGaYBUqGSNjE6+n7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPxmc0Er40n7=HVu1GFk3NvQCuZDie-mpHimGaCv+5c-4f_vVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwwPJsPc5DUn-tqw_2U9xatevsenzk7X5zWocvkV9ko=Bw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeJo-yBEDJ+U74=Zo36KPiRimSdnhpGaYBUqGSNjE6+n7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> When did I say that?
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>
>> Stefan
>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hey guys...
>>>
>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>> cool.
>>>
>>> !!!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Louise Fox
>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Feb 11 15:38:20 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:38:20 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] giant popup book peopel
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwwAsHxojoHXPQscFJyaT4J3c2Lyk1bGzEmZL-CEGDJjZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPxmc0Er40n7=HVu1GFk3NvQCuZDie-mpHimGaCv+5c-4f_vVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwwPJsPc5DUn-tqw_2U9xatevsenzk7X5zWocvkV9ko=Bw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeJo-yBEDJ+U74=Zo36KPiRimSdnhpGaYBUqGSNjE6+n7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwwAsHxojoHXPQscFJyaT4J3c2Lyk1bGzEmZL-CEGDJjZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeKSRf23upc8_ws_fDgaw9W59OHazsVW_et-B9YwAnn6KA@mail.gmail.com>

Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
interested I'll do it.

Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get the
full 6 ppl this time

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When did I say that?
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hey guys...
>>>>
>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>> cool.
>>>>
>>>> !!!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Louise Fox
>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Sat Feb 11 15:41:29 2012
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:41:29 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] giant popup book peopel
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeKSRf23upc8_ws_fDgaw9W59OHazsVW_et-B9YwAnn6KA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPxmc0Er40n7=HVu1GFk3NvQCuZDie-mpHimGaCv+5c-4f_vVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwwPJsPc5DUn-tqw_2U9xatevsenzk7X5zWocvkV9ko=Bw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeJo-yBEDJ+U74=Zo36KPiRimSdnhpGaYBUqGSNjE6+n7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwwAsHxojoHXPQscFJyaT4J3c2Lyk1bGzEmZL-CEGDJjZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeKSRf23upc8_ws_fDgaw9W59OHazsVW_et-B9YwAnn6KA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABZdcAmvj+GPeALnkFs-Y2ZfzhBhb5+PL7r--91g4yLE1KnOWg@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there
On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
> interested I'll do it.
>
> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get the
> full 6 ppl this time
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When did I say that?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hey guys...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
>>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>>> cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Louise Fox
>>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
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>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Feb 11 16:28:39 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:28:39 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] giant popup book peopel
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeKSRf23upc8_ws_fDgaw9W59OHazsVW_et-B9YwAnn6KA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPxmc0Er40n7=HVu1GFk3NvQCuZDie-mpHimGaCv+5c-4f_vVg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwwPJsPc5DUn-tqw_2U9xatevsenzk7X5zWocvkV9ko=Bw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeJo-yBEDJ+U74=Zo36KPiRimSdnhpGaYBUqGSNjE6+n7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwwAsHxojoHXPQscFJyaT4J3c2Lyk1bGzEmZL-CEGDJjZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeKSRf23upc8_ws_fDgaw9W59OHazsVW_et-B9YwAnn6KA@mail.gmail.com>
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I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00 elsewhere.
On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
> interested I'll do it.
>
> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get the
> full 6 ppl this time
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When did I say that?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hey guys...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
>>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>>> cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Louise Fox
>>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Feb 11 18:35:41 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:35:41 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
Message-ID: <CACAQXeKCyzLZzRHsJxB0drqaYbn-W2J0m=f=ODBTULGFMz-T1w@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan, heph, mischa, teratoma and
his roommate

if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we might do multiple ships, or
maybe someone else wont show up

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00 elsewhere.
> On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
>> interested I'll do it.
>>
>> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get the
>> full 6 ppl this time
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When did I say that?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stefan
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hey guys...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
>>>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>>>> cool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Louise Fox
>>>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Sat Feb 11 18:40:34 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:40:34 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeKCyzLZzRHsJxB0drqaYbn-W2J0m=f=ODBTULGFMz-T1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeKCyzLZzRHsJxB0drqaYbn-W2J0m=f=ODBTULGFMz-T1w@mail.gmail.com>
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Is anyone from Heatsync labs playing as well?
On Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan, heph, mischa, teratoma and
> his roommate
>
> if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we might do multiple ships,
> or maybe someone else wont show up
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00 elsewhere.
>> On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
>>> interested I'll do it.
>>>
>>> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get the
>>> full 6 ppl this time
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When did I say that?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hey guys...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>>>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
>>>>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>>>>> cool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Louise Fox
>>>>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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>>>
>>>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Feb 11 19:23:41 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:23:41 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
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I keep asking, but they can't seem to get enough people together for a
team. If you seem him on irc, bug willbradley about it

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is anyone from Heatsync labs playing as well?
> On Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan, heph, mischa, teratoma and
>> his roommate
>>
>> if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we might do multiple ships,
>> or maybe someone else wont show up
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong Billings <
>> albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00 elsewhere.
>>> On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
>>>> interested I'll do it.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get
>>>> the full 6 ppl this time
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When did I say that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hey guys...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>>>>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
>>>>>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>>>>>> cool.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Louise Fox
>>>>>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From rachel at xtreme.com  Sat Feb 11 20:18:23 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:18:23 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
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No fair planning Artemis under the subject line Giant Popup Book!

I am going to show up bc I feel like it. I encourage others to do so too and we can have our own ship, same game, either in cooperation or in conflict with the Artemis.

-Rachel

On Feb 11, 2012, at 19:23, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> I keep asking, but they can't seem to get enough people together for a team. If you seem him on irc, bug willbradley about it
> 
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anyone from Heatsync labs playing as well?
> 
> On Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan, heph, mischa, teratoma and his roommate
> 
> if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we might do multiple ships, or maybe someone else wont show up
> 
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00 elsewhere.
> 
> On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are interested I'll do it.
> 
> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get the full 6 ppl this time
> 
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
> 
> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> When did I say that?
> 
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
> 
> Stefan
> 
> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" <louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
> hey guys...
> 
> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
> They are interested in become members and are building a giant popup
> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
> cool.
> 
> !!!
> 
> --
> Louise Fox
> Mechanical Engineer
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From myles at tenhand.com  Sun Feb 12 10:54:04 2012
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:54:04 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Does anyone have a  round diametral magnet I can borrow?
Message-ID: <78186A8A-74F9-42CB-B4FE-3670765BB7CC@tenhand.com>

until I can get a replacement? 

I need a magnet, ideally round, where if you look down on the flat axis, north is up & south is down.  Something that would work well as a compass. This is for a magnetic rotary angle detector. 

From romanian at gmail.com  Sun Feb 12 11:07:24 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:07:24 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Does anyone have a round diametral magnet I can borrow?
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Check my cuppa metal shavings. It has some strong magnets attached to
visualize the field.
It's upstairs on the brown wooden beam table, towards the back of the table.

Stefan
On Feb 12, 2012 10:54 AM, "myles" <myles at tenhand.com> wrote:

> until I can get a replacement?
>
> I need a magnet, ideally round, where if you look down on the flat axis,
> north is up & south is down.  Something that would work well as a compass.
> This is for a magnetic rotary angle detector.
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sun Feb 12 16:37:51 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:37:51 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Anyone want to buy a SAN array?
Message-ID: <CACAQXeKHqaHDx+bebt8WwPe_QDwDDMcfatahSHB6am_6Or=gDw@mail.gmail.com>

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/sys/2848474178.html -- if nobody bites
after a week or so I'll lower the price.
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sun Feb 12 17:23:22 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:23:22 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
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I am dissapoint...where is everybody?

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> No fair planning Artemis under the subject line Giant Popup Book!
>
> I am going to show up bc I feel like it. I encourage others to do so too
> and we can have our own ship, same game, either in cooperation or in
> conflict with the Artemis.
>
> -Rachel
>
> On Feb 11, 2012, at 19:23, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I keep asking, but they can't seem to get enough people together for a
> team. If you seem him on irc, bug willbradley about it
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stefan Hristu < <romanian at gmail.com>
> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is anyone from Heatsync labs playing as well?
>> On Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan, heph, mischa, teratoma and
>>> his roommate
>>>
>>> if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we might do multiple ships,
>>> or maybe someone else wont show up
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong Billings <<albill at openbuddha.com>
>>> albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00 elsewhere.
>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>>>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
>>>>> interested I'll do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get
>>>>> the full 6 ppl this time
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu < <romanian at gmail.com>
>>>>> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>>>>>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When did I say that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <<romanian at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" < <louise.s.fox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hey guys...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>>>>>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant
>>>>>>>>> popup
>>>>>>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>>>>>>> cool.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Louise Fox
>>>>>>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>  <Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>>>>>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>>>>>>  <http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss>
>>>>>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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From me at robbiet.us  Sun Feb 12 17:24:31 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:24:31 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
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On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:23 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am dissapoint...where is everybody?
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com>wrote:
>
>> No fair planning Artemis under the subject line Giant Popup Book!
>>
>> I am going to show up bc I feel like it. I encourage others to do so too
>> and we can have our own ship, same game, either in cooperation or in
>> conflict with the Artemis.
>>
>> -Rachel
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2012, at 19:23, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I keep asking, but they can't seem to get enough people together for a
>> team. If you seem him on irc, bug willbradley about it
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stefan Hristu < <romanian at gmail.com>
>> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone from Heatsync labs playing as well?
>>> On Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan, heph, mischa, teratoma
>>>> and his roommate
>>>>
>>>> if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we might do multiple
>>>> ships, or maybe someone else wont show up
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong Billings <<albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>> albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00 elsewhere.
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>>>>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
>>>>>> interested I'll do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get
>>>>>> the full 6 ppl this time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu < <romanian at gmail.com>
>>>>>> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When did I say that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <<romanian at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" < <louise.s.fox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hey guys...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at 12:30
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant
>>>>>>>>>> popup
>>>>>>>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>>>>>>>> cool.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Louise Fox
>>>>>>>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>  <Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>>>>>>>> <http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss>
>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sun Feb 12 17:25:39 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:25:39 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
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Not talking about you, talking about the other 3 people in this email
thread who said they be here

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

> Currently, Colorado Springs.
>
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> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
> 925-884-3728
> robbie.io
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>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:23 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am dissapoint...where is everybody?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com>wrote:
>>
>>> No fair planning Artemis under the subject line Giant Popup Book!
>>>
>>> I am going to show up bc I feel like it. I encourage others to do so too
>>> and we can have our own ship, same game, either in cooperation or in
>>> conflict with the Artemis.
>>>
>>> -Rachel
>>>
>>> On Feb 11, 2012, at 19:23, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I keep asking, but they can't seem to get enough people together for a
>>> team. If you seem him on irc, bug willbradley about it
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stefan Hristu < <romanian at gmail.com>
>>> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone from Heatsync labs playing as well?
>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>>>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan, heph, mischa, teratoma
>>>>> and his roommate
>>>>>
>>>>> if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we might do multiple
>>>>> ships, or maybe someone else wont show up
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong Billings <<albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>>> albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00 elsewhere.
>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>>>>>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well I never specifically planned it for tomorrow, but if people are
>>>>>>> interested I'll do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at 5pm? Let's see if we can get
>>>>>>> the full 6 ppl this time
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan Hristu <<romanian at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you not doing it this sunday? Damn... i was gonna play :(
>>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex" < <drorex at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When did I say that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Hristu <<romanian at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll be around, i know Dave will be playing artemis around 5pm.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM, "Louise Fox" < <louise.s.fox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> louise.s.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to give some gals/guys a tour of ace tomorrow at
>>>>>>>>>>> 12:30 .
>>>>>>>>>>> They are interested in become members and are building a giant
>>>>>>>>>>> popup
>>>>>>>>>>> book! anyways if anyone wants to be around tomorrow that would be
>>>>>>>>>>> cool.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Louise Fox
>>>>>>>>>>> Mechanical Engineer
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From rachel at xtreme.com  Sun Feb 12 18:29:30 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:29:30 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
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Sorry, I meant to come... Problems.  :(  If you are still playing I can 
get there in an hour but I figured it was too late.  Bugger.

On 2/12/12 5:25 PM, David Rorex wrote:
> Not talking about you, talking about the other 3 people in this email
> thread who said they be here
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us
> <mailto:me at robbiet.us>> wrote:
>
>     Currently, Colorado Springs.
>
>     Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
>     Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
>     925-884-3728 <tel:925-884-3728>
>     robbie.io <http://robbie.io>
>
>
>
>     On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:23 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com
>     <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         I am dissapoint...where is everybody?
>
>
>         On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Rachel McConnell
>         <rachel at xtreme.com <mailto:rachel at xtreme.com>> wrote:
>
>             No fair planning Artemis under the subject line Giant Popup
>             Book!
>
>             I am going to show up bc I feel like it. I encourage others
>             to do so too and we can have our own ship, same game, either
>             in cooperation or in conflict with the Artemis.
>
>             -Rachel
>
>             On Feb 11, 2012, at 19:23, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com
>             <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>             I keep asking, but they can't seem to get enough people
>>             together for a team. If you seem him on irc, bug
>>             willbradley about it
>>
>>             On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stefan Hristu
>>             <<mailto:romanian at gmail.com>romanian at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Is anyone from Heatsync labs playing as well?
>>
>>                 On Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM, "David Rorex"
>>                 <<mailto:drorex at gmail.com>drorex at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan,
>>                     heph, mischa, teratoma and his roommate
>>
>>                     if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we
>>                     might do multiple ships, or maybe someone else
>>                     wont show up
>>
>>                     On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong
>>                     Billings
>>                     <<mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>albill at openbuddha.com
>>                     <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                         I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00
>>                         elsewhere.
>>
>>                         On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex"
>>                         <<mailto:drorex at gmail.com>drorex at gmail.com
>>                         <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                             Well I never specifically planned it for
>>                             tomorrow, but if people are interested
>>                             I'll do it.
>>
>>                             Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at
>>                             5pm? Let's see if we can get the full 6
>>                             ppl this time
>>
>>                             On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan
>>                             Hristu
>>                             <<mailto:romanian at gmail.com>romanian at gmail.com
>>                             <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                                 Are you not doing it this sunday?
>>                                 Damn... i was gonna play :(
>>
>>                                 On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex"
>>                                 <<mailto:drorex at gmail.com>drorex at gmail.com
>>                                 <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                                     When did I say that?
>>
>>                                     On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM,
>>                                     Stefan Hristu
>>                                     <<mailto:romanian at gmail.com>romanian at gmail.com
>>                                     <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                                         I'll be around, i know Dave
>>                                         will be playing artemis around
>>                                         5pm.
>>
>>                                         Stefan
>>
>>                                         On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM,
>>                                         "Louise Fox"
>>                                         <<mailto:louise.s.fox at gmail.com>louise.s.fox at gmail.com
>>                                         <mailto:louise.s.fox at gmail.com>>
>>                                         wrote:
>>
>>                                             hey guys...
>>
>>                                             I am going to give some
>>                                             gals/guys a tour of ace
>>                                             tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>                                             They are interested in
>>                                             become members and are
>>                                             building a giant popup
>>                                             book! anyways if anyone
>>                                             wants to be around
>>                                             tomorrow that would be
>>                                             cool.
>>
>>                                             !!!
>>
>>                                             --
>>                                             Louise Fox
>>                                             Mechanical Engineer
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sun Feb 12 18:47:25 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:47:25 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game sunday 5pm
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I just left before you sent this email, after nobody showed up but mischa.
Maybe we'll try again next week, someone else also expressed interest (who
lives 3 blocks from AMT). Also atom was there, got it running fine on
crossover games on linux, so any other linux users have that as an option
too.
On Feb 12, 2012 6:29 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I meant to come... Problems.  :(  If you are still playing I can
> get there in an hour but I figured it was too late.  Bugger.
>
> On 2/12/12 5:25 PM, David Rorex wrote:
>
>> Not talking about you, talking about the other 3 people in this email
>> thread who said they be here
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us
>> <mailto:me at robbiet.us>> wrote:
>>
>>    Currently, Colorado Springs.
>>
>>    Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
>>    Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
>>    925-884-3728 <tel:925-884-3728>
>>    robbie.io <http://robbie.io>
>>
>>
>>
>>    On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:23 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com
>>    <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>        I am dissapoint...where is everybody?
>>
>>
>>        On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Rachel McConnell
>>        <rachel at xtreme.com <mailto:rachel at xtreme.com>> wrote:
>>
>>            No fair planning Artemis under the subject line Giant Popup
>>            Book!
>>
>>            I am going to show up bc I feel like it. I encourage others
>>            to do so too and we can have our own ship, same game, either
>>            in cooperation or in conflict with the Artemis.
>>
>>            -Rachel
>>
>>            On Feb 11, 2012, at 19:23, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             I keep asking, but they can't seem to get enough people
>>>            together for a team. If you seem him on irc, bug
>>>            willbradley about it
>>>
>>>            On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stefan Hristu
>>>            <<mailto:romanian at gmail.com>ro**manian at gmail.com<romanian at gmail.com>
>>>            <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                Is anyone from Heatsync labs playing as well?
>>>
>>>                On Feb 11, 2012 6:36 PM, "David Rorex"
>>>                <<mailto:drorex at gmail.com>dror**ex at gmail.com<drorex at gmail.com>
>>>                <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                    Looks like there will be 6 of us: me, stefan,
>>>                    heph, mischa, teratoma and his roommate
>>>
>>>                    if anyone else wants to come, you still can, we
>>>                    might do multiple ships, or maybe someone else
>>>                    wont show up
>>>
>>>                    On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Al Jigong
>>>                    Billings
>>>                    <<mailto:albill at openbuddha.com**>
>>> albill at openbuddha.com
>>>                    <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>**> wrote:
>>>
>>>                        I have my dungeons and dragons group at 5:00
>>>                        elsewhere.
>>>
>>>                        On Feb 11, 2012 3:38 PM, "David Rorex"
>>>                        <<mailto:drorex at gmail.com>dror**ex at gmail.com<drorex at gmail.com>
>>>                        <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                            Well I never specifically planned it for
>>>                            tomorrow, but if people are interested
>>>                            I'll do it.
>>>
>>>                            Anyone else willing to come tomorrow at
>>>                            5pm? Let's see if we can get the full 6
>>>                            ppl this time
>>>
>>>                            On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Stefan
>>>                            Hristu
>>>                            <<mailto:romanian at gmail.com>ro**
>>> manian at gmail.com <romanian at gmail.com>
>>>                            <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                Are you not doing it this sunday?
>>>                                Damn... i was gonna play :(
>>>
>>>                                On Feb 11, 2012 1:59 PM, "David Rorex"
>>>                                <<mailto:drorex at gmail.com>dror**
>>> ex at gmail.com <drorex at gmail.com>
>>>                                <mailto:drorex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                    When did I say that?
>>>
>>>                                    On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 PM,
>>>                                    Stefan Hristu
>>>                                    <<mailto:romanian at gmail.com>ro**
>>> manian at gmail.com <romanian at gmail.com>
>>>                                    <mailto:romanian at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                                        I'll be around, i know Dave
>>>                                        will be playing artemis around
>>>                                        5pm.
>>>
>>>                                        Stefan
>>>
>>>                                        On Feb 11, 2012 1:13 PM,
>>>                                        "Louise Fox"
>>>                                        <<mailto:louise.s.fox at gmail.**com<louise.s.fox at gmail.com>
>>> >louise.s.fox at gmail.com
>>>                                        <mailto:louise.s.fox at gmail.com**
>>> >>
>>>                                        wrote:
>>>
>>>                                            hey guys...
>>>
>>>                                            I am going to give some
>>>                                            gals/guys a tour of ace
>>>                                            tomorrow at 12:30 .
>>>                                            They are interested in
>>>                                            become members and are
>>>                                            building a giant popup
>>>                                            book! anyways if anyone
>>>                                            wants to be around
>>>                                            tomorrow that would be
>>>                                            cool.
>>>
>>>                                            !!!
>>>
>>>                                            --
>>>                                            Louise Fox
>>>                                            Mechanical Engineer
>>>                                            ______________________________
>>> **_________________
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From me at robbiet.us  Mon Feb 13 00:54:34 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:54:34 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] "MakerBot's 3-D Printers Let Consumers Dream Up Prototypes
 Of Pretty Much Anything. But Do We Need More Plastic?" (fastcompany.com)
Message-ID: <3920196958991644791@unknownmsgid>

Great article about MakerBot and hackerspaces and such. Must read.

"MakerBot's 3-D Printers Let Consumers Dream Up Prototypes Of Pretty Much
Anything. But Do We Need More Plastic?" by Rob Walker

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/162/bre-pettis-makerbot?partner=rss

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From Jesse at propertelevision.com  Mon Feb 13 13:56:10 2012
From: Jesse at propertelevision.com (Jesse Aitchison)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:56:10 +0000
Subject: [AMTD] Makers Wanted
Message-ID: <964501C1FE9F504CB12BCE60624F2063010B523C@Proper-Exch-02.Propertv.local>

Dear Ace Monster Toys,

Proper Television is developing a new series about Makers-people with an intense passion for building all manner of contraptions for all manner of purposes. We're currently in the midst of casting characters for the series, and have been reaching out to various groups in an effort to build a Dream Team of Makers. Your organization seems pretty dialled in to this community.

Without belabouring the details, the series will revolve around our team of Makers facing off against other groups in maker-related competitions. Competitions like:

-Modifying a lawnmower into a 70mph drag racer
-Designing catapults to hurl pumpkins across football fields
-Constructing Rube Goldberg machines
-Building human-powered submarines

Our goal is to find multifaceted individuals with aptitude in numerous fields pertinent to these sorts of projects. People with experience in things like engineering, electronics, physics, welding, pyrotechnics, construction, engines and industrial design-these are the sorts we're looking to get in touch with.

Is this something that might interest you or your group? If so, we'd love to hear from you! If not, we could very much use your help spreading the message to as many Makers as possible.

Thank you for your time, keep up the great work!


Jesse Aitchison
Development Associate
PROPER TELEVISION INC.
409 King St. W Suite 201
Toronto, Ontario M5V 1K1
P: 416.598.2500 ext. 376
F: 416.598.2550

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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 03:28:36 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 03:28:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad party today Fri 3pm-late --Door
	Prizes 8^)
Message-ID: <1328268516.65108.androidMobile@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Executive summary: will trade geeky goods for help with move - specifically boxing some things and packing up the truck.

Hey Everyone, 

For those I haven't met yet, I joined Ace recently to push my? agenda of optics, circuit bending, science teaching, and using taxonomies and machine learning to subvert, um, bad things

As I mentioned at the meeting last night, I've accumulated way too many gizmos, tinkery electronics, surplus optics (including quite a few refractor objectives & even a monstrous aerial lens), hackable toys, audio/synth bits n cables, science teacher junk, and the like. 

I'm moving to smaller quarters. So I'm donating some of it to Ace, storing some with a few friends, and passing some of it on.? I'm loading my UHaul tomorrow night (I reserved the truck from mid afternoon Fri to mid afternoon Sat, since the last day of a move always turns into a late night adventure in culling for me. Saturday is for deliveries.)

Some of my neighbors can help with the heavy stuff, but theres just a lot to do, so I'm making it a party, and as I said passing some oddities on to good homes. This is in El Sobrante, near El Cerrito. More details after I sleep a few hours.? Coupla pics attached. I hope to see you there! Questions? Ask away.

Steve 510-418-7332
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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 11:35:27 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:35:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza update
Message-ID: <1328297727.54553.androidMobile@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Executive summary: will trade geeky goods for help with move - specifically boxing some things and packing up the truck.

Hey Everyone,

For those I haven't met yet, I joined Ace recently to push my agenda of optics, circuit bending, science teaching, and using taxonomies and machine learning to change the world.

As I mentioned at the meeting last night, I've accumulated way too many gizmos, tinkery electronics, surplus optics (including quite a few refractor objectives & even a monstrous aerial lens), hackable toys, audio/synth bits n cables, science teacher junk, and the like.

I'm moving to smaller quarters. So I'm donating some of it to Ace, storing some with a few friends, and passing some of it on. I'm loading my UHaul tonight (I reserved the truck from mid afternoon Fri to mid afternoon Sat, since the last day of a move always turns seems to turn into a late night adventure in culling for me. Saturday is for deliveries.)

Some of my neighbors can help with the heavy stuff, but theres just a lot to do, so I'm making it a party, and as I said passing some oddities on to good homes. This is in El Sobrante, near El Cerrito. More pics attached. I hope to see you there! Questions? Ask away.

Steve 510-418-7332 
OSent from Yahoo! Mail on Android 

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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  3 11:46:19 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:46:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Geekstravaganza PacknLoad moving party today,
	3pm-late. Door prizes 8^)
Message-ID: <1328298379.84809.androidMobile@web83605.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Executive summary: will trade geeky goods for help with move - specifically boxing some things and packing up the truck.

Hey Everyone,

For those I haven't met yet, I joined Ace recently to push my agenda of optics, circuit bending, science teaching, and using taxonomies and machine learning to change the world.

As I mentioned at the meeting last night, I've accumulated way too many gizmos, tinkery electronics, surplus optics (including quite a few refractor objectives & even a monstrous aerial lens), hackable toys, audio/synth bits n cables, science teacher junk, and the like.

I'm moving to smaller quarters. So I'm donating some of it to Ace, storing some with a few friends, and passing some of it on. I'm loading my UHaul tonight (I reserved the truck from mid afternoon Fri to mid afternoon Sat, since the last day of a move always turns seems to turn into a late night adventure in culling for me. Saturday is for deliveries.)

Some of my neighbors can help with the heavy stuff, but theres just a lot to do, so I'm making it a party, and as I said passing some oddities on to good homes. This is in El Sobrante, near El Cerrito. 

More pics attached. You can see the wall-hanging bins I'm offering to the electronics area (3x6 ft plate attached to wall & mobile bins of various sizes for parts hang on that) etc.

I hope to see you there! Questions? Ask away.

Steve 510-418-7332 
Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android 




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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Feb 13 14:38:12 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:38:12 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Spam filters
Message-ID: <4F3990D4.6080907@openbuddha.com>

Obviously, someone found the control for the spigot on the list spam
filters!

Al


From myles at tenhand.com  Tue Feb 14 09:57:24 2012
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:57:24 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] TP link routers - pick up this thursday.
Message-ID: <2C1E2A1D-658C-4303-BF14-7D7A9251A9C2@tenhand.com>


If you ordered one already, they're $22, and I'll have them at the meeting this week. If you paypal David before then, I'll leave them in the space for you. 
If you didn't order one, do the same. I probably have enough for everybody. 

If you pay before the meeting, I'll flash them with openWRT. Other special offers include: 

If you bring a 4+ GB memory stick, I'll give you a vmware image that has the whole build environment. You don't really need this unless you're adding new kernel options. 

I also have a handful of tiny USB wifi sticks that work with the WRT ($9), and tiny  USB-> 8Gb  class 10  microsd flash drives that works as an external root for python & other big stuff ( $19)

I spent some time on the road messing with openwrt. So far I have configs for 
* 3 g router using Virgin pre-paid. 
* Dual radio (client via USB, master via built in) 
* firewall piercing (http tunnel, ping tunnel, dns tunnel) (Cool but entirely useless. In the real world it's faster to simply pay Boingo instead of constantly starting an out of band link to restart the servers ). 
* Tor + Privoxy  (easy way to do TOR on the iphone). 
* IPSec to openvpn router (Iphone to WRT is ipsec on LAN, WAN is openvpn to the cloud). 
* WRT as webserver for publishing arduino data. 
* Not finished, but WRT as mesh data logger for multiple arduinos. (this is going to be arduino+wrt devices syslogging to a central device writing to two different USB sticks). 

Once people have payed up & I have access to the space again, I'll be adding an external antenna to the radio. It looks like it should be pretty easy to do. 

From tewing at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 11:27:51 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:27:51 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] TP link routers - pick up this thursday.
In-Reply-To: <2C1E2A1D-658C-4303-BF14-7D7A9251A9C2@tenhand.com>
References: <2C1E2A1D-658C-4303-BF14-7D7A9251A9C2@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <6C74993D-2DDA-4153-A7B1-ADBC2921FC7E@gmail.com>

How hard was it to get the vpn working correctly with the iphone?  I have a VM at home with openswan acting as a VPN server to my iphone and remember it being a pain to set up.

On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:57 AM, myles wrote:

> 
> If you ordered one already, they're $22, and I'll have them at the meeting this week. If you paypal David before then, I'll leave them in the space for you. 
> If you didn't order one, do the same. I probably have enough for everybody. 
> 
> If you pay before the meeting, I'll flash them with openWRT. Other special offers include: 
> 
> If you bring a 4+ GB memory stick, I'll give you a vmware image that has the whole build environment. You don't really need this unless you're adding new kernel options. 
> 
> I also have a handful of tiny USB wifi sticks that work with the WRT ($9), and tiny  USB-> 8Gb  class 10  microsd flash drives that works as an external root for python & other big stuff ( $19)
> 
> I spent some time on the road messing with openwrt. So far I have configs for 
> * 3 g router using Virgin pre-paid. 
> * Dual radio (client via USB, master via built in) 
> * firewall piercing (http tunnel, ping tunnel, dns tunnel) (Cool but entirely useless. In the real world it's faster to simply pay Boingo instead of constantly starting an out of band link to restart the servers ). 
> * Tor + Privoxy  (easy way to do TOR on the iphone). 
> * IPSec to openvpn router (Iphone to WRT is ipsec on LAN, WAN is openvpn to the cloud). 
> * WRT as webserver for publishing arduino data. 
> * Not finished, but WRT as mesh data logger for multiple arduinos. (this is going to be arduino+wrt devices syslogging to a central device writing to two different USB sticks). 
> 
> Once people have payed up & I have access to the space again, I'll be adding an external antenna to the radio. It looks like it should be pretty easy to do. 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From tewing at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 11:29:50 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:29:50 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] TP link routers - pick up this thursday.
In-Reply-To: <2C1E2A1D-658C-4303-BF14-7D7A9251A9C2@tenhand.com>
References: <2C1E2A1D-658C-4303-BF14-7D7A9251A9C2@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <E9DCEDD2-9A0C-47AF-9DF4-458A0202A785@gmail.com>

Do you have any pictures of the wifi and flash modules?  I'd like to see how small they are.  It looks like you've made great progress with these things.

On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:57 AM, myles wrote:

> 
> If you ordered one already, they're $22, and I'll have them at the meeting this week. If you paypal David before then, I'll leave them in the space for you. 
> If you didn't order one, do the same. I probably have enough for everybody. 
> 
> If you pay before the meeting, I'll flash them with openWRT. Other special offers include: 
> 
> If you bring a 4+ GB memory stick, I'll give you a vmware image that has the whole build environment. You don't really need this unless you're adding new kernel options. 
> 
> I also have a handful of tiny USB wifi sticks that work with the WRT ($9), and tiny  USB-> 8Gb  class 10  microsd flash drives that works as an external root for python & other big stuff ( $19)
> 
> I spent some time on the road messing with openwrt. So far I have configs for 
> * 3 g router using Virgin pre-paid. 
> * Dual radio (client via USB, master via built in) 
> * firewall piercing (http tunnel, ping tunnel, dns tunnel) (Cool but entirely useless. In the real world it's faster to simply pay Boingo instead of constantly starting an out of band link to restart the servers ). 
> * Tor + Privoxy  (easy way to do TOR on the iphone). 
> * IPSec to openvpn router (Iphone to WRT is ipsec on LAN, WAN is openvpn to the cloud). 
> * WRT as webserver for publishing arduino data. 
> * Not finished, but WRT as mesh data logger for multiple arduinos. (this is going to be arduino+wrt devices syslogging to a central device writing to two different USB sticks). 
> 
> Once people have payed up & I have access to the space again, I'll be adding an external antenna to the radio. It looks like it should be pretty easy to do. 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From myles at tenhand.com  Tue Feb 14 12:42:55 2012
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:42:55 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Iphone VPN - was openWRT builds.
In-Reply-To: <6C74993D-2DDA-4153-A7B1-ADBC2921FC7E@gmail.com>
References: <2C1E2A1D-658C-4303-BF14-7D7A9251A9C2@tenhand.com>
	<6C74993D-2DDA-4153-A7B1-ADBC2921FC7E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BE503AE5-F9C4-4FAA-997E-6B2112B721F5@tenhand.com>


I'm also using openswan with the netlink kernel IPSEC. Yes, it's a pain to get going.

 I had it running with nat traversal on my server, but found that the iphone would randomly glitch & couldn't restart the VPN.  In setting up IPSec on the WRT, I worked out that the problem is probably in the L2TP keep-alives. I haven't had a problem since tweaking that.  

For the WRT, I was playing with having the IPhone connect to an open local AP using L2TP/IPSec. That's not how things are supposed to work in a sane world, so I worry that there's some fundamental weakness a clever attacker could take advantage of. On the other hand, everything is going to be safe in the local starbucks, so I care less. 

Have you been able to get both Android and OS X  IPSec working on the same VM? I haven't been able to get android working, but that may be the device. 


I've also got an x86 openwrt  VM for testing if that's of interest. 



On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Terry Ewing wrote:

> How hard was it to get the vpn working correctly with the iphone?  I have a VM at home with openswan acting as a VPN server to my iphone and remember it being a pain to set up.



From myles at tenhand.com  Tue Feb 14 12:47:34 2012
From: myles at tenhand.com (myles)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:47:34 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] TP link routers - pick up this thursday.
In-Reply-To: <E9DCEDD2-9A0C-47AF-9DF4-458A0202A785@gmail.com>
References: <2C1E2A1D-658C-4303-BF14-7D7A9251A9C2@tenhand.com>
	<E9DCEDD2-9A0C-47AF-9DF4-458A0202A785@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98776E15-AEE5-402C-9AFD-C60B95B170A7@tenhand.com>



Flash is the Kingston flash reader: http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-microSDHC-Memory-Reader-FCR-MRG2
Wifi is a no-name ebay version of http://www.amazon.com/AirLink101-AWLL5088-Wireless-Ultra-Adapter  . With that size, you can see that they have a crap antenna for distance. Also you have to do handsprings to get the kernel drivers built, but I've already done that. 


On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Terry Ewing wrote:

> Do you have any pictures of the wifi and flash modules?  I'd like to see how small they are.  It looks like you've made great progress with these things.
> 
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:57 AM, myles wrote:
> 
>> 
>> If you ordered one already, they're $22, and I'll have them at the meeting this week. If you paypal David before then, I'll leave them in the space for you. 
>> If you didn't order one, do the same. I probably have enough for everybody. 
>> 
>> If you pay before the meeting, I'll flash them with openWRT. Other special offers include: 
>> 
>> If you bring a 4+ GB memory stick, I'll give you a vmware image that has the whole build environment. You don't really need this unless you're adding new kernel options. 
>> 
>> I also have a handful of tiny USB wifi sticks that work with the WRT ($9), and tiny  USB-> 8Gb  class 10  microsd flash drives that works as an external root for python & other big stuff ( $19)
>> 
>> I spent some time on the road messing with openwrt. So far I have configs for 
>> * 3 g router using Virgin pre-paid. 
>> * Dual radio (client via USB, master via built in) 
>> * firewall piercing (http tunnel, ping tunnel, dns tunnel) (Cool but entirely useless. In the real world it's faster to simply pay Boingo instead of constantly starting an out of band link to restart the servers ). 
>> * Tor + Privoxy  (easy way to do TOR on the iphone). 
>> * IPSec to openvpn router (Iphone to WRT is ipsec on LAN, WAN is openvpn to the cloud). 
>> * WRT as webserver for publishing arduino data. 
>> * Not finished, but WRT as mesh data logger for multiple arduinos. (this is going to be arduino+wrt devices syslogging to a central device writing to two different USB sticks). 
>> 
>> Once people have payed up & I have access to the space again, I'll be adding an external antenna to the radio. It looks like it should be pretty easy to do. 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From tewing at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 16:56:28 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:56:28 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Iphone VPN - was openWRT builds.
In-Reply-To: <BE503AE5-F9C4-4FAA-997E-6B2112B721F5@tenhand.com>
References: <2C1E2A1D-658C-4303-BF14-7D7A9251A9C2@tenhand.com>
	<6C74993D-2DDA-4153-A7B1-ADBC2921FC7E@gmail.com>
	<BE503AE5-F9C4-4FAA-997E-6B2112B721F5@tenhand.com>
Message-ID: <CC813C58-9257-469B-9E47-107564B916E5@gmail.com>

Hey Myles,
I was able to get my macbook and my iphone logging in to the openswan VPN but I never tried an Android device.  That VM is on my home ESX server and has been powered off for a few months so I'm not even sure it works any longer.  

Are you willing to share the mods you've made?  Do you have ipkgs for the VPN?  I could load it on my tp-link router at home, forward some ports to it and see if I can get the VPN working with all devices.  

Thanks,
-Terry



On Feb 14, 2012, at 12:42 PM, myles wrote:

> 
> I'm also using openswan with the netlink kernel IPSEC. Yes, it's a pain to get going.
> 
> I had it running with nat traversal on my server, but found that the iphone would randomly glitch & couldn't restart the VPN.  In setting up IPSec on the WRT, I worked out that the problem is probably in the L2TP keep-alives. I haven't had a problem since tweaking that.  
> 
> For the WRT, I was playing with having the IPhone connect to an open local AP using L2TP/IPSec. That's not how things are supposed to work in a sane world, so I worry that there's some fundamental weakness a clever attacker could take advantage of. On the other hand, everything is going to be safe in the local starbucks, so I care less. 
> 
> Have you been able to get both Android and OS X  IPSec working on the same VM? I haven't been able to get android working, but that may be the device. 
> 
> 
> I've also got an x86 openwrt  VM for testing if that's of interest. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Terry Ewing wrote:
> 
>> How hard was it to get the vpn working correctly with the iphone?  I have a VM at home with openswan acting as a VPN server to my iphone and remember it being a pain to set up.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From drorex at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 10:35:49 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:35:49 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Zen Toolworks Meetup Info
Message-ID: <CACAQXeLaGyxjd41q=E29mEzx0AJpENjiuNvDYrJ1w-th2AP4-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Zen Toolworks is the company that made the kit for our mini CNC downstairs.
Apparently the owner, Xin, lives right here in the east bay. They are
having a meetup in Concord on sat. feb 25th, for anybody interested in CNC's

---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM
Subject: Xin Chen sent you a message: Zen Toolworks Meetup Info
To: drorex at gmail.com



[image: Meetup] <http://www.meetup.com/t/mm1_1>

    Meetup Message from: Xin
Chen<http://www.meetup.com/Ace-Monster-Toys/members/37779192/t/mm1_l3>,
Zen Toolworks, LLC., Sponsor of Ace Monster
Toys<http://www.meetup.com/Ace-Monster-Toys/t/mm1_l6> Zen
Toolworks Meetup Info
 <http://www.meetup.com/Ace-Monster-Toys/members/37779192/t/mm1_l2>
   Hi, David

Nice talking to you guys yesterday.

Please check out our meetup group schedule below and I am looking forward
to seeing you here in Concord.

http://www.meetup.com/East-Bay-CNC/

Thank you

Xin
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 <http://www.meetup.com/East-Bay-CNC/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
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 14 zenmaker ? Concord, CA
 <http://www.meetup.com/AndroidMakers/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
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 439 Android Makers ? San Francisco, CA
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From romanian at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 11:09:02 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:09:02 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Zen Toolworks Meetup Info
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeLaGyxjd41q=E29mEzx0AJpENjiuNvDYrJ1w-th2AP4-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeLaGyxjd41q=E29mEzx0AJpENjiuNvDYrJ1w-th2AP4-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwwedp6pYy=FpfXt2N2nkVikipncOnOmLHkWTQQQ3nPxEg@mail.gmail.com>

yup. I'm planning on attending!
Xin also has a firing range above his shop (air guns only :P)

Stefan

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:35 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Zen Toolworks is the company that made the kit for our mini CNC
> downstairs. Apparently the owner, Xin, lives right here in the east bay.
> They are having a meetup in Concord on sat. feb 25th, for anybody
> interested in CNC's
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Meetup <info at meetup.com>
> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM
> Subject: Xin Chen sent you a message: Zen Toolworks Meetup Info
> To: drorex at gmail.com
>
>
>
> [image: Meetup] <http://www.meetup.com/t/mm1_1>
>
>     Meetup Message from: Xin Chen<http://www.meetup.com/Ace-Monster-Toys/members/37779192/t/mm1_l3>,
> Zen Toolworks, LLC., Sponsor of Ace Monster Toys<http://www.meetup.com/Ace-Monster-Toys/t/mm1_l6> Zen
> Toolworks Meetup Info
>  <http://www.meetup.com/Ace-Monster-Toys/members/37779192/t/mm1_l2>
>    Hi, David
>
> Nice talking to you guys yesterday.
>
> Please check out our meetup group schedule below and I am looking forward
> to seeing you here in Concord.
>
> http://www.meetup.com/East-Bay-CNC/
>
> Thank you
>
> Xin
>   Xin Chen is also a member of:
>  <http://www.meetup.com/East-Bay-CNC/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
>  Eastbay CNC and 3D printing hobbyists<http://www.meetup.com/East-Bay-CNC/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
>  14 zenmaker ? Concord, CA
>  <http://www.meetup.com/AndroidMakers/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
>  The Android Makers <http://www.meetup.com/AndroidMakers/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
>  439 Android Makers ? San Francisco, CA
>  <http://www.meetup.com/makesf/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
>  Make:SF - the Bay Makers <http://www.meetup.com/makesf/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
>  953 Makers ? San Francisco, CA
>  <http://www.meetup.com/WalnutCreekEvents/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
>  Walnut Creek Events - Social and Business Networking Group<http://www.meetup.com/WalnutCreekEvents/t/mm1_l4?gj=ej35>
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>
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From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 12:37:33 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:37:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
Message-ID: <1329424653.26536.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I got my first taste of Noisebridge on Monday. 

I'm probably a bit more anarcho-tolerant than a lot of ACE folks, and I have to 
say I liked it - though I admit I had it easy; no completely deranged people 
hassled me and I got to play with the best 3D microscope I've ever seen. 

Also got to know Mike Kan a bit - vacuum engineer par excellence and very 
interested in optics.

Then yesterday I was thinking I should take advantage of their next FMoF event, 
to spout some of my idealistic jibber-jabber. Checked the schedule and OMG 
"That's Tomorrow!!" [aka tonight]. Decided to take the plunge anyways. 

You can preview my almost-done slides here: 
 https://docs.google.com/presentation/pub?id=1h4c-bav_GvXxgDs2mPwrrtIGS5BFHOybetS5npKYLck&start=false&loop=false&delayms=15000#slide=id.g839cbcf_0_54


Spelling corrections, feedback of all kinds, etc., appreciated.

I certainly shan't abandon ACE. But you have to admit, Noisebridge does a pretty 
good job of being everything ACE isn't. And being a bit of a bridge-builder is 
one of my strengths ;)

Steve
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From romanian at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 12:54:26 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:54:26 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
In-Reply-To: <1329424653.26536.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1329424653.26536.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwwm4Ww41rmkf81sd0EdDduaa3tD11cXnhDP7KHRGyq+9w@mail.gmail.com>

I am not a Noisebridge hater, haven't really been there much. I went
once (so I can say I've been) and it all seemed fairly quiet, and yes,
they had lots more electronics and stuff in general, but they are
higher profile and get donations all the time. That being said, their
laser is smaller than ours :P

also, the FMoF used to be Heph's specialty (not sure if he's still
running that) and he's a member of both N-bridge and AMT :)


Stefan

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:37 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I got my first taste of Noisebridge on Monday.
>
> I'm probably a bit more anarcho-tolerant than a lot of ACE folks, and I have
> to say I liked it - though I admit I had it easy; no completely deranged
> people hassled me and I got to play with the best 3D microscope I've ever
> seen.
>
> Also got to know Mike Kan a bit - vacuum engineer par excellence and very
> interested in optics.
>
> Then yesterday I was thinking I should take advantage of their next FMoF
> event, to spout some of my idealistic jibber-jabber. Checked the schedule
> and OMG "That's Tomorrow!!" [aka tonight]. Decided to take the plunge
> anyways.
>
> You can preview my almost-done slides here:
> ?https://docs.google.com/presentation/pub?id=1h4c-bav_GvXxgDs2mPwrrtIGS5BFHOybetS5npKYLck&start=false&loop=false&delayms=15000#slide=id.g839cbcf_0_54
>
> Spelling corrections, feedback of all kinds, etc., appreciated.
>
> I certainly shan't abandon ACE. But you have to admit, Noisebridge does a
> pretty good job of being everything ACE isn't. And being a bit of a
> bridge-builder is one of my strengths ;)
>
> Steve
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Feb 16 12:59:23 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:59:23 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwwm4Ww41rmkf81sd0EdDduaa3tD11cXnhDP7KHRGyq+9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1329424653.26536.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CAPdpSwwm4Ww41rmkf81sd0EdDduaa3tD11cXnhDP7KHRGyq+9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F3D6E2B.20003@openbuddha.com>

On 2/16/12 12:54 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> I am not a Noisebridge hater, haven't really been there much. I went
> once (so I can say I've been) and it all seemed fairly quiet, and yes,
> they had lots more electronics and stuff in general, but they are
> higher profile and get donations all the time. That being said, their
> laser is smaller than ours :P
>
> also, the FMoF used to be Heph's specialty (not sure if he's still
> running that) and he's a member of both N-bridge and AMT :)
>
>

Heph gave it up a while ago. AFAIK, he isn't a member of NB anymore.

My only *real* issue with NB is actually two related things:

1) Lack of governance ("no rules, man")
2) High drama

The main reason I quit is that after it was created, I was very sick for
most of the next six months so I couldn't go and it takes me an hour to
get there from my home in Oakland. When I finally started going, the
anarchist collective thing was well in place and I realized that I
really hated that way of running a space.

Al



From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 13:48:03 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:48:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwwm4Ww41rmkf81sd0EdDduaa3tD11cXnhDP7KHRGyq+9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1329424653.26536.YahooMailRC@web83603.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CAPdpSwwm4Ww41rmkf81sd0EdDduaa3tD11cXnhDP7KHRGyq+9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1329428883.3752.YahooMailRC@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I was exaggerating the contrast a bit for comic effect. 

But "the only rule is excellence [:. living in the space is probably 
non-excellent]" is a challenging principle of organization to be sure. FWIW, 
there does seem to be a major effort to "police"sleepers right now however, and 
reportedly the practice has declined dramatically. 

A complicated beast I've only begun to know.



________________________________
From: Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>
To: discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
Sent: Thu, February 16, 2012 12:54:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight

I am not a Noisebridge hater, haven't really been there much. I went
once (so I can say I've been) and it all seemed fairly quiet, and yes,
they had lots more electronics and stuff in general, but they are
higher profile and get donations all the time. That being said, their
laser is smaller than ours :P

also, the FMoF used to be Heph's specialty (not sure if he's still
running that) and he's a member of both N-bridge and AMT :)


Stefan

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:37 PM, steve lussier <sp_lussier at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I got my first taste of Noisebridge on Monday.
>
> I'm probably a bit more anarcho-tolerant than a lot of ACE folks, and I have
> to say I liked it - though I admit I had it easy; no completely deranged
> people hassled me and I got to play with the best 3D microscope I've ever
> seen.
>
> Also got to know Mike Kan a bit - vacuum engineer par excellence and very
> interested in optics.
>
> Then yesterday I was thinking I should take advantage of their next FMoF
> event, to spout some of my idealistic jibber-jabber. Checked the schedule
> and OMG "That's Tomorrow!!" [aka tonight]. Decided to take the plunge
> anyways.
>
> You can preview my almost-done slides here:
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/pub?id=1h4c-bav_GvXxgDs2mPwrrtIGS5BFHOybetS5npKYLck&start=false&loop=false&delayms=15000#slide=id.g839cbcf_0_54
>4
>
> Spelling corrections, feedback of all kinds, etc., appreciated.
>
> I certainly shan't abandon ACE. But you have to admit, Noisebridge does a
> pretty good job of being everything ACE isn't. And being a bit of a
> bridge-builder is one of my strengths ;)
>
> Steve
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Feb 16 13:49:09 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:49:09 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
In-Reply-To: <1329428883.3752.YahooMailRC@web83602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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On 2/16/12 1:48 PM, steve lussier wrote:
> I was exaggerating the contrast a bit for comic effect. 
>
> But "the only rule is excellence [:. living in the space is probably
> non-excellent]" is a challenging principle of organization to be sure.
> FWIW, there does seem to be a major effort to "police"sleepers right
> now however, and reportedly the practice has declined dramatically. 
>
> A complicated beast I've only begun to know.
>

You're obviously reading a different Noisebridge Discuss list than me,
given the 200 messages or so this week on the topic. :-)

Al

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From ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com  Thu Feb 16 14:27:55 2012
From: ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com (Christopher Cook)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:27:55 +0000
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
In-Reply-To: <4F3D79D5.4010904@openbuddha.com>
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I've never been to NB, to far away for me to care about, but I'd like
more on "Noisebridge does a pretty good job of being everything ACE
isn't." What's that? Other then just more space and more stuff?

Chris

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/16/12 1:48 PM, steve lussier wrote:
>
> I was exaggerating the contrast a bit for comic effect.
>
> But "the only rule is excellence [:. living in the space is probably non-excellent]" is a challenging principle of organization to be sure. FWIW, there does seem to be a major effort to "police"sleepers right now however, and reportedly the practice has declined dramatically.
>
> A complicated beast I've only begun to know.
>
>
> You're obviously reading a different Noisebridge Discuss list than me, given the 200 messages or so this week on the topic. :-)
>
> Al
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From garrattgallagher at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 14:35:09 2012
From: garrattgallagher at gmail.com (Garratt Gallagher)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:35:09 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
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well, ACE does have a scarcity of drug use and homeless people...

in all seriousness, the biggest things I noticed that noisebridge has
that ACE does not are:
textile facilities - sewing machines and such
a Kitchen
a darkroom

Just for reference, and not a suggestion that we need those - none of
those are particularly important to me.

Garratt

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Christopher Cook
<ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com> wrote:
> I've never been to NB, to far away for me to care about, but I'd like
> more on "Noisebridge does a pretty good job of being everything ACE
> isn't." What's that? Other then just more space and more stuff?
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Al Jigong Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/16/12 1:48 PM, steve lussier wrote:
>>
>> I was exaggerating the contrast a bit for comic effect.
>>
>> But "the only rule is excellence [:. living in the space is probably non-excellent]" is a challenging principle of organization to be sure. FWIW, there does seem to be a major effort to "police"sleepers right now however, and reportedly the practice has declined dramatically.
>>
>> A complicated beast I've only begun to know.
>>
>>
>> You're obviously reading a different Noisebridge Discuss list than me, given the 200 messages or so this week on the topic. :-)
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Feb 16 14:40:06 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:40:06 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
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On 2/16/12 2:35 PM, Garratt Gallagher wrote:
> well, ACE does have a scarcity of drug use and homeless people...
>
> in all seriousness, the biggest things I noticed that noisebridge has
> that ACE does not are:
> textile facilities - sewing machines and such
> a Kitchen
> a darkroom
>
> Just for reference, and not a suggestion that we need those - none of
> those are particularly important to me.
>

I will note that the lack of a kitchen was actually considered a plus
(along with their being no water or bathroom in the space). Kitchens and
bathrooms = drama in a lot of groups as people fight over them.

Al



From sp_lussier at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 14:57:40 2012
From: sp_lussier at yahoo.com (steve lussier)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:57:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
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That would be the exaggeration for comic effect  8^)



________________________________
From: Christopher Cook <ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com>
To: discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
Sent: Thu, February 16, 2012 2:27:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight

I've never been to NB, to far away for me to care about, but I'd like
more on "Noisebridge does a pretty good job of being everything ACE
isn't." What's that? Other then just more space and more stuff?

Chris

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/16/12 1:48 PM, steve lussier wrote:
>
> I was exaggerating the contrast a bit for comic effect.
>
> But "the only rule is excellence [:. living in the space is probably 
>non-excellent]" is a challenging principle of organization to be sure. FWIW, 
>there does seem to be a major effort to "police"sleepers right now however, and 
>reportedly the practice has declined dramatically.
>
> A complicated beast I've only begun to know.
>
>
> You're obviously reading a different Noisebridge Discuss list than me, given 
>the 200 messages or so this week on the topic. :-)
>
> Al
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From slick at rebelbase.com  Thu Feb 16 21:10:55 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:10:55 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] my Five Minutes of Fame will be tonight
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Damn I spent too much time on reddit today I tried to up vote you.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>
> I will note that the lack of a kitchen was actually considered a plus
> (along with their being no water or bathroom in the space). Kitchens and
> bathrooms = drama in a lot of groups as people fight over them.
>
> Al


From drorex at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 23:44:55 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:44:55 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Need someone to take ownership of getting the plotter
 working & finding a spot for it
Message-ID: <CACAQXeLd1yLiHzJvuAjpEcZ769j4dZOTJkccOe3aubBngTYq3g@mail.gmail.com>

The massive thing is taking up 2/3rd of one of our tables (see
http://acemonstertoys.org/webcam/ during the day). And it's been there for
a week or two now? We need someone who is interested in getting it working
and finding a spot for it, or I am proposing we junk it instead. I'll chip
in for replacement parts, help move stuff, etc if someone else is willing
to do the research/work to figure it out. It was worth $4000 when new, but
that was 15 years ago.
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From romanian at gmail.com  Thu Feb 16 23:59:57 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:59:57 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Need someone to take ownership of getting the plotter
 working & finding a spot for it
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We're still waiting for you at Rudy's. We need to order food. Are you
coming?
On Feb 16, 2012 11:45 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> The massive thing is taking up 2/3rd of one of our tables (see
> http://acemonstertoys.org/webcam/ during the day). And it's been there
> for a week or two now? We need someone who is interested in getting it
> working and finding a spot for it, or I am proposing we junk it instead.
> I'll chip in for replacement parts, help move stuff, etc if someone else is
> willing to do the research/work to figure it out. It was worth $4000 when
> new, but that was 15 years ago.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From atom_bomb at rocketmail.com  Fri Feb 17 00:48:51 2012
From: atom_bomb at rocketmail.com (Atom Bomb)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:48:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AMTD] Need someone to take ownership of getting the plotter
	working & finding a spot for it
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Message-ID: <1329468531.2892.YahooMailClassic@web82908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's the kind of gusto and willing to commit that makes America great!

--- On Thu, 2/16/12, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AMTD] Need someone to take ownership of getting the plotter working & finding a spot for it
To: discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
Date: Thursday, February 16, 2012, 11:59 PM

We're still waiting for you at Rudy's. We need to order food. Are you coming?
On Feb 16, 2012 11:45 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

The massive thing is taking up 2/3rd of one of our tables (see?http://acemonstertoys.org/webcam/ during the day). And it's been there for a week or two now? We need someone who is interested in getting it working and finding a spot for it, or I am proposing we junk it instead. I'll chip in for replacement parts, help move stuff, etc if someone else is willing to do the research/work to figure it out. It was worth $4000 when new, but that was 15 years ago.




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From me at robbiet.us  Fri Feb 17 10:04:34 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:04:34 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Resignation & other notes
Message-ID: <CAPs-5xXtnvCW_sGUz9QqSRa2zzXhjeE66oRFYdsENcbGgFX8iw@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings!

As of February 23rd, I am resigning as secretary and as a member of AMT as
I am moving to Colorado Springs for work.

I am asking everyone who wants to say goodbye to come to that meeting to
say goodbye. It is next week on Thursday. I will be there by 7 or so and
will stay for the meeting and night.

That's all I got, hope to see you then!

Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
925-884-3728
robbie.io
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From me at robbiet.us  Fri Feb 17 10:19:14 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:19:14 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Resignation & other notes
In-Reply-To: <CAPs-5xXtnvCW_sGUz9QqSRa2zzXhjeE66oRFYdsENcbGgFX8iw@mail.gmail.com>
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Also this is not my resignation letter, this is my intent to resign notice.
I will be hand delivering my signed resignation letter to the president
(Al) as per the bylaws.

Still, you should come say bye!

Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
925-884-3728
robbie.io



On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Robbie Trencheny <me at robbiet.us> wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> As of February 23rd, I am resigning as secretary and as a member of AMT as
> I am moving to Colorado Springs for work.
>
> I am asking everyone who wants to say goodbye to come to that meeting to
> say goodbye. It is next week on Thursday. I will be there by 7 or so and
> will stay for the meeting and night.
>
> That's all I got, hope to see you then!
>
> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
> 925-884-3728
> robbie.io
>
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From maltman23 at hotmail.com  Fri Feb 17 16:26:16 2012
From: maltman23 at hotmail.com (Mitch Altman)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:26:16 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Circuit Hacking Monday at Noisebridge, 20-Feb
Message-ID: <SNT102-W418860FD2A153F1D348EAB8600@phx.gbl>





I'm back in town again for just long enough to lead another edition of Circuit Hacking Monday at Noisebridge!
 
 
Circuit Hacking Monday      is a great chance to learn how to solder, learn about electronics,      and/or learn about Noisebridge.

It is perfectly fine if you've          never soldered before!It is perfectly fine to bring in          your projects in progress -- it's a great place to get help          with your project!It is perfectly fine to bring in          something you'd like help fixing!It is perfectly fine to just come          and hang out with other hardware geeks!Circuit Hacking Monday is all this, and more. You are        welcome to come to Circuit Hacking Monday to learn how to make cool        kits (listed below), but you are also welcome to come and work        on your own project, fix something, or get familiar with the  Noisebridge and its electronics lab. You can use our tools, get help, or        give help with others playing with and making projects. It's a        great community. Come and meet some new friends!Where: Noisebridge,        3rd floor of 2169 Mission, San Francisco, 94110 One and a half blocks South of 16th        St. Mission BART Station.When: Monday February 20th, 7pm till        ?? (it is totally OK to come late!)Just show up! No reservation is        needed. Most projects take about 1 to 2        hours.Who: You! It is fun        to make things in the friendly community of Noisebridge.Cost: Instruction        is Free! If you want one of the following        kits, reimbursement for the kit price is requested. (kit prices are $10 to $35,        depending on kit)All kits are designed for total        beginners to complete successfully.
Some of the kits available:  TV-B-Gone  --  (turn off any TV in public places!)"Hi My Name Is" badge  --  (you may have seen me wearing mine) Brain Machine  --  (Meditate,        Hallucinate, and Trip Out!)Mignonette Game  --  (build your own        handheld game console!) Trippy RGB Waves  --  (interac tive        blinky lights!) LEDcube  --  (animated 3D cube of LEDs!) MiniPOV  --  (more cool blinky lights!)BoArduino  --  (solderless breadborad Arduino!)Diavolino  --  (shield compatible Arduino from Evil Mad Science!)OpenHeart  --  (animate fun patterns in        the shape of a heart!) LoL Shield  --  (Lots of LEDs for your        Arduino!)microcontroller programmer  (USBtinyISP)  --  (program all your AVR family chips!) And more!

More info is available on the above        kits at:http://www.CornfieldElectronics.comhttp://www.adafruit.comhttp://www.appliedplatonics.comhttp://www.jimmieprodgers.comhttp://www.mignonette-game.comhttp://www.evilmadscientist.comhttp://analogmachines.com/
Mitch.  
 		 	   		  
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From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Feb 17 17:02:49 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:02:49 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Need someone to take ownership of getting the plotter
 working & finding a spot for it
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Hi,

The obvious thing that needs fixing is it needs a new belt (the one that
drives the print head is all shredded), which can be had for $20 on ebay I
hear. What times are you available? I'm CC'ing this to our mailing list to
see who else will be around to help poke at it with you.

We do have a CAD/CAM class starting up on Tuesday nights (at 7pm I believe,
still waiting on official announcement from Costa), I don't know if he's
doing anything as advanced as solidworks & 4 axis stuff though, our CNCs
consist of unreliable 3d printers (makerbot), a sweet laser cutter (doesn't
require any fancy toolpaths), and a small DIY 7"x7" work area CNC built
from a kit, which we were using Google Sketchup -> HeeksCNC -> EMC2 to run
(but it needs some hardware tweaks to do more reliable cutting). At the
very least you can learn the basics of CNC type operation. What make/model
in particular do you have?

thanks!
-david r

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jeffery Lovesyou <jphenryinsf at gmail.com>wrote:

> I have a epson 9500 stylus pro 44inch wide large format printer I
> bought in a state of somewhat disrepair. i read the owner manual, then
> found the technician manual and use that for maint. i have performed
> much maintinance on it and it runs great. i'd like to poke around at
> yours and maybe fix it with you. if it wasnt dry stored the heads are
> prolly clogged, soak in acetone or replace. getting to them is the fun
> part. other than that if the stepper motors all work it will probably
> fire right up and run with drivers for -some- windows version.  good
> thing i have "winxp32sp3" tatoo/d across my chest. when can i come
> check it out?
> also, i have a 4 axis cnc mill and I have no idea how to use it. i
> aquired it in a game of chance. do you offer any workshops or classes
> in using software to create models i.e. solidworks and how to create
> the cutting path gcode.
> -jeff
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Mischa Spiegelmock
> <mspiegelmock at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thought this may be of interest to you:
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:44 PM
> > Subject: [AMTD] Need someone to take ownership of getting the plotter
> > working & finding a spot for it
> > To: Ace Monster Toys <discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
> >
> >
> > The massive thing is taking up 2/3rd of one of our tables (see
> > http://acemonstertoys.org/webcam/ during the day). And it's been there
> > for a week or two now? We need someone who is interested in getting it
> > working and finding a spot for it, or I am proposing we junk it
> > instead. I'll chip in for replacement parts, help move stuff, etc if
> > someone else is willing to do the research/work to figure it out. It
> > was worth $4000 when new, but that was 15 years ago.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From maltman23 at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 18 09:32:07 2012
From: maltman23 at hotmail.com (Mitch Altman)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:32:07 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Speaker Submissions Are Open for HOPE #9
Message-ID: <SNT102-W43A8449A28B3B27B2E6BC1B8600@phx.gbl>





Greetings,

As preparations for HOPE Number Nine continue, we want to extend a special
invitation to you to consider submitting a talk proposal.

Unlike most other conferences, we're very open to hearing non-established
voices and brand new ideas. This is what we've become known for over the
years. Our community is an open one and we move forward by listening and
sharing our knowledge.

We opened our speaker submissions in January and have already gotten some
really terrific talk ideas. Many are from people with very impressive
backgrounds. But we want to make sure this isn't seen as a prerequisite.
No matter what your level of experience is, no matter how long you've 
been around or who you know, if you have something to say, please consider
sharing it with a few thousand of your closest friends.

If you would like to be a speaker, presentation ideas should be submitted 
with a synopsis of your topic and a short presenter bio.  Speakers will be 
chosen by peer review, based on topics and relevance. Seminars, panels, 
fireside chats, tutorials, debates, or other types of presentations are all 
welcome. Most presentations will be allotted 55 minutes.

HOPE includes a very wide variety of topics, limited only by our collective 
imagination: cryptography, copyright, telecommunications, new technologies, 
research, experimentation, surveillance, countersurveillance, privacy, 
anonymity, censorship, hardware hacking, programming, democracy and law, 
education, social engineering, digital protests, hacking society, and even 
more. We are also looking for innovative subjects and presentation formats. 
At a HOPE conference there isn't just a right to explore, there is a mandate 
to cross boundaries. Come show us what you've got!

Submissions should be sent to speakers at hope.net and include speaker names 
(or aliases) and email addresses, with the title and a description of the 
proposed presentation. Also include a brief biographical statement.

We will start letting people know their talks are approved on a staggered
schedule beginning as early as next month. Notifications will continue 
through June. Timing is based on many factors including strength of
presentation, number of similar talks, overall relevance, and more. But 
even if you don't get an acceptance notification, we will have an unscheduled 
track at the conference that's open to everyone in addition to a couple of
lightning talk rounds. You may also be asked if you'd like to do a last 
minute fill-in. At a HOPE conference, anything is possible. But part of the
magic is to take that first step and put forth a brand new idea.

HOPE Number Nine will be taking place July 13, 14, and 15, 2012 at the Hotel
Pennsylvania in New York City and will feature over 100 talks ranging from
highly technical to socially provocative, but all connected in some way to
the wonderful world of hacking. In addition, we'll have a huge floorspace
for all kinds of hacker projects and displays.

For continuing updates, visit www.hope.net.  		 	   		  
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Feb 18 12:43:47 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:43:47 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] SIMcard cutter
Message-ID: <EB7BFE18-1418-4016-BDC2-741BF6478786@openbuddha.com>

Anyone got a simcard cutter or know where I can get one *today* so I can cut a standard sized SIM card to micro sizes necessary in the iPhone?

Al



From drorex at gmail.com  Sat Feb 18 12:48:50 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:48:50 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] SIMcard cutter
In-Reply-To: <EB7BFE18-1418-4016-BDC2-741BF6478786@openbuddha.com>
References: <EB7BFE18-1418-4016-BDC2-741BF6478786@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXe+NxGCHOn_M934ZDZrn3Z31Uhmhuo9=At_bU33v_Ko94A@mail.gmail.com>

You don't need a special tool, anything that cuts can do it, if you are
careful enough

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> Anyone got a simcard cutter or know where I can get one *today* so I can
> cut a standard sized SIM card to micro sizes necessary in the iPhone?
>
> Al
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sat Feb 18 12:59:06 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:59:06 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] SIMcard cutter
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXe+NxGCHOn_M934ZDZrn3Z31Uhmhuo9=At_bU33v_Ko94A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EB7BFE18-1418-4016-BDC2-741BF6478786@openbuddha.com>
	<CACAQXe+NxGCHOn_M934ZDZrn3Z31Uhmhuo9=At_bU33v_Ko94A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD84D932-CB32-4565-A1DE-6EFCE7D39806@openbuddha.com>

Captain Obvious is obvious. :-)

Yes but I thought someone might actually have a tool for it rather than my eyeballing it. I've gone the other way before.

Al


On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:48 PM, David Rorex wrote:

> You don't need a special tool, anything that cuts can do it, if you are careful enough
> 
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Anyone got a simcard cutter or know where I can get one *today* so I can cut a standard sized SIM card to micro sizes necessary in the iPhone?
> 
> Al
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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From albill at openbuddha.com  Sun Feb 19 12:56:58 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:56:58 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Make Magazine
Message-ID: <196894A1-3814-45C7-93F6-1195910736D4@openbuddha.com>

I have a complete collection of Make Magazine.

I prefer reading it in PDF these days.

Would there be interest in my donating them to the space and shelving them? I know we have a few there but not all.

Al



From biff at cliffle.com  Mon Feb 20 10:23:08 2012
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:23:08 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Cupcake 3G5D Mini adapter
Message-ID: <CA+hY8Pr0=+P+3PYMeZpWiZJ2=mBnNdsJX9CzgQyEyWEwkutrNA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm getting a few of these fabbed: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:17852

I'll bring one in for Alice.  This should give us more reliable stepper
extrusion without hacking our own firmware.  (It's about as
officially-supported as any Cupcake mod can be in 2012 -- it's compatible
with a shield that MakerBot sells on their site.)

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Feb 20 10:31:47 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:31:47 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Cupcake 3G5D Mini adapter
In-Reply-To: <CA+hY8Pr0=+P+3PYMeZpWiZJ2=mBnNdsJX9CzgQyEyWEwkutrNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+hY8Pr0=+P+3PYMeZpWiZJ2=mBnNdsJX9CzgQyEyWEwkutrNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D0470621-EA65-4E02-B412-A900B99E6DD4@openbuddha.com>

Sweet!

I'm going to bring my mosaic in this week for people to see.

Al



On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:23 AM, "Cliff L. Biffle" <biff at cliffle.com> wrote:

> I'm getting a few of these fabbed: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:17852
> 
> I'll bring one in for Alice.  This should give us more reliable stepper extrusion without hacking our own firmware.  (It's about as officially-supported as any Cupcake mod can be in 2012 -- it's compatible with a shield that MakerBot sells on their site.)
> 
> -- 
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Feb 20 11:33:10 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:33:10 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
References: <000001359c3c8acc-c16c7fe1-4535-446b-ae7a-9566a9c9af82-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <E8F64896-CC65-42F0-A5F9-2A5BB4D6AA21@openbuddha.com>

The Model Thinking course is finally live.

Al

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
> Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
> To: albill at openbuddha.com
> Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
> 
> Dear Al Billings,
> 
> We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past couple of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are all posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get started:
> 
> http://www.modelthinking-class.org/
> 
> The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We will be covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're understanding the material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week, starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will vary in difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging numerical calculations.
> 
> I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by posting alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the assignments.
> 
> Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested in learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form of online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly encourage you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and think about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even find that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
> 
> Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought provoking.
> 
> Scotte
> 
> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
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From romanian at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 12:30:55 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:30:55 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
In-Reply-To: <E8F64896-CC65-42F0-A5F9-2A5BB4D6AA21@openbuddha.com>
References: <000001359c3c8acc-c16c7fe1-4535-446b-ae7a-9566a9c9af82-000000@email.amazonses.com>
	<E8F64896-CC65-42F0-A5F9-2A5BB4D6AA21@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwwMc5O8xniPA=iKnJSJY=3NRa0SAhWK0OOsK0pGxXBR0Q@mail.gmail.com>

That is true. And I expect that the machine learning class is not too
far behind.

I will be doing a couple of study groups:

Saturday will be Machine Learning, myself and Idris will be hosting.
Proposed time is: 10am - 1pm
 - both myself and Idris have completed machine learning, so we can
answer questions and offer guidance.

Sunday could be Model Thinking, myself so far (anyone else is
welcome). Proposed time is 10am - 1pm
 - this is a new course for me

Unfortunately I do not have time in the evenings, so it will have to
be on weekends, unless someone else steps up and hosts.


I would like to gauge interest in the above. Email me, or the list if
interested in either of the above study groups.


Stefan

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> The Model Thinking course is finally live.
>
> Al
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
> Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
> To: albill at openbuddha.com
> Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
>
> Dear Al Billings,
>
> We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past couple
> of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are all
> posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get started:
>
> http://www.modelthinking-class.org/
>
> The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We will be
> covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of
> lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're understanding the
> material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week,
> starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will vary in
> difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging numerical
> calculations.
>
> I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by posting
> alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as
> extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the assignments.
>
> Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested in
> learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form of
> online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly encourage
> you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and think
> about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even find
> that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
>
> Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought
> provoking.
>
> Scotte
>
> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
> staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From drorex at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 12:35:59 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:35:59 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwwMc5O8xniPA=iKnJSJY=3NRa0SAhWK0OOsK0pGxXBR0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001359c3c8acc-c16c7fe1-4535-446b-ae7a-9566a9c9af82-000000@email.amazonses.com>
	<E8F64896-CC65-42F0-A5F9-2A5BB4D6AA21@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwwMc5O8xniPA=iKnJSJY=3NRa0SAhWK0OOsK0pGxXBR0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeKOtU3qRkryEAL3D31KVe95+sb-_XKYR_YdJBK2xWTwsw@mail.gmail.com>

Don't forget to put it on the calendar! A post on the website would be nice
too. I just added Costa's class on Tuesday nights to the calendar, an
official mailing list & website post would be nice for that too. And
there's also meetup which I think a lot of people aren't on the discuss
mailing list but are on the meetup site.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is true. And I expect that the machine learning class is not too
> far behind.
>
> I will be doing a couple of study groups:
>
> Saturday will be Machine Learning, myself and Idris will be hosting.
> Proposed time is: 10am - 1pm
>  - both myself and Idris have completed machine learning, so we can
> answer questions and offer guidance.
>
> Sunday could be Model Thinking, myself so far (anyone else is
> welcome). Proposed time is 10am - 1pm
>  - this is a new course for me
>
> Unfortunately I do not have time in the evenings, so it will have to
> be on weekends, unless someone else steps up and hosts.
>
>
> I would like to gauge interest in the above. Email me, or the list if
> interested in either of the above study groups.
>
>
> Stefan
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Al Jigong Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> > The Model Thinking course is finally live.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
> > Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
> > To: albill at openbuddha.com
> > Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
> >
> > Dear Al Billings,
> >
> > We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past
> couple
> > of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are all
> > posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get started:
> >
> > http://www.modelthinking-class.org/
> >
> > The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We will
> be
> > covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of
> > lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're understanding
> the
> > material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week,
> > starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will vary
> in
> > difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging numerical
> > calculations.
> >
> > I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by posting
> > alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as
> > extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the assignments.
> >
> > Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested in
> > learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form of
> > online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly
> encourage
> > you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and
> think
> > about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even
> find
> > that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
> >
> > Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought
> > provoking.
> >
> > Scotte
> >
> > If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
> > staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 12:50:56 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:50:56 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeKOtU3qRkryEAL3D31KVe95+sb-_XKYR_YdJBK2xWTwsw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001359c3c8acc-c16c7fe1-4535-446b-ae7a-9566a9c9af82-000000@email.amazonses.com>
	<E8F64896-CC65-42F0-A5F9-2A5BB4D6AA21@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPdpSwwMc5O8xniPA=iKnJSJY=3NRa0SAhWK0OOsK0pGxXBR0Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeKOtU3qRkryEAL3D31KVe95+sb-_XKYR_YdJBK2xWTwsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwzuoet3M_k2NWSMpvJbsXVz4wLyvo4NQSn_uNZdjvFapg@mail.gmail.com>

I know how to add it to the calendar, but I am not sure how to do the
meetup thing. Dave, maybe ping me with how to for meetup.
I posted to the study group forum for the class too.


Stefan

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:35 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't forget to put it on the calendar! A post on the website would be nice
> too. I just added Costa's class on Tuesday nights to the calendar, an
> official mailing list & website post would be nice for that too. And there's
> also meetup which I think a lot of people aren't on the discuss mailing list
> but are on the meetup site.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That is true. And I expect that the machine learning class is not too
>> far behind.
>>
>> I will be doing a couple of study groups:
>>
>> Saturday will be Machine Learning, myself and Idris will be hosting.
>> Proposed time is: 10am - 1pm
>> ?- both myself and Idris have completed machine learning, so we can
>> answer questions and offer guidance.
>>
>> Sunday could be Model Thinking, myself so far (anyone else is
>> welcome). Proposed time is 10am - 1pm
>> ?- this is a new course for me
>>
>> Unfortunately I do not have time in the evenings, so it will have to
>> be on weekends, unless someone else steps up and hosts.
>>
>>
>> I would like to gauge interest in the above. Email me, or the list if
>> interested in either of the above study groups.
>>
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Al Jigong Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> > The Model Thinking course is finally live.
>> >
>> > Al
>> >
>> > Begin forwarded message:
>> >
>> > From: Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
>> > Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
>> > To: albill at openbuddha.com
>> > Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
>> >
>> > Dear Al Billings,
>> >
>> > We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past
>> > couple
>> > of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are all
>> > posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get started:
>> >
>> > http://www.modelthinking-class.org/
>> >
>> > The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We will
>> > be
>> > covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of
>> > lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're understanding
>> > the
>> > material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week,
>> > starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will vary
>> > in
>> > difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging numerical
>> > calculations.
>> >
>> > I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by posting
>> > alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as
>> > extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the
>> > assignments.
>> >
>> > Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested
>> > in
>> > learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form
>> > of
>> > online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly
>> > encourage
>> > you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and
>> > think
>> > about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even
>> > find
>> > that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
>> >
>> > Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought
>> > provoking.
>> >
>> > Scotte
>> >
>> > If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
>> > staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 12:55:22 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:55:22 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
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Go here:
http://www.meetup.com/Ace-Monster-Toys
Click 'Schedule a meetup' the big button below "Welcome!"
You have to log in first, there's a small link at the very top right of the
page.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know how to add it to the calendar, but I am not sure how to do the
> meetup thing. Dave, maybe ping me with how to for meetup.
> I posted to the study group forum for the class too.
>
>
> Stefan
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:35 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Don't forget to put it on the calendar! A post on the website would be
> nice
> > too. I just added Costa's class on Tuesday nights to the calendar, an
> > official mailing list & website post would be nice for that too. And
> there's
> > also meetup which I think a lot of people aren't on the discuss mailing
> list
> > but are on the meetup site.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> That is true. And I expect that the machine learning class is not too
> >> far behind.
> >>
> >> I will be doing a couple of study groups:
> >>
> >> Saturday will be Machine Learning, myself and Idris will be hosting.
> >> Proposed time is: 10am - 1pm
> >>  - both myself and Idris have completed machine learning, so we can
> >> answer questions and offer guidance.
> >>
> >> Sunday could be Model Thinking, myself so far (anyone else is
> >> welcome). Proposed time is 10am - 1pm
> >>  - this is a new course for me
> >>
> >> Unfortunately I do not have time in the evenings, so it will have to
> >> be on weekends, unless someone else steps up and hosts.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would like to gauge interest in the above. Email me, or the list if
> >> interested in either of the above study groups.
> >>
> >>
> >> Stefan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Al Jigong Billings
> >> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> >> > The Model Thinking course is finally live.
> >> >
> >> > Al
> >> >
> >> > Begin forwarded message:
> >> >
> >> > From: Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
> >> > Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
> >> > To: albill at openbuddha.com
> >> > Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
> >> >
> >> > Dear Al Billings,
> >> >
> >> > We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past
> >> > couple
> >> > of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are
> all
> >> > posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get
> started:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.modelthinking-class.org/
> >> >
> >> > The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We
> will
> >> > be
> >> > covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of
> >> > lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're
> understanding
> >> > the
> >> > material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week,
> >> > starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will
> vary
> >> > in
> >> > difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging
> numerical
> >> > calculations.
> >> >
> >> > I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by
> posting
> >> > alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as
> >> > extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the
> >> > assignments.
> >> >
> >> > Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested
> >> > in
> >> > learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form
> >> > of
> >> > online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly
> >> > encourage
> >> > you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and
> >> > think
> >> > about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even
> >> > find
> >> > that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
> >> >
> >> > Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought
> >> > provoking.
> >> >
> >> > Scotte
> >> >
> >> > If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
> >> > staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Discuss mailing list
> >> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> >> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Discuss mailing list
> >> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> >> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> >
> >
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From rachel at xtreme.com  Mon Feb 20 13:37:04 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:37:04 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwwMc5O8xniPA=iKnJSJY=3NRa0SAhWK0OOsK0pGxXBR0Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4F42BD00.4000605@xtreme.com>

I am interested in taking the Model Thinking course.  10-1 Sundays works 
for me.  Would this start next Sunday?  Is there a deadline?  He says it 
ends the last week in April, which for an online course confuses me a 
bit unless the materials are going to be taken down then.

Anyway I'm in.

Rachel

On 2/20/12 12:30 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> That is true. And I expect that the machine learning class is not too
> far behind.
>
> I will be doing a couple of study groups:
>
> Saturday will be Machine Learning, myself and Idris will be hosting.
> Proposed time is: 10am - 1pm
>   - both myself and Idris have completed machine learning, so we can
> answer questions and offer guidance.
>
> Sunday could be Model Thinking, myself so far (anyone else is
> welcome). Proposed time is 10am - 1pm
>   - this is a new course for me
>
> Unfortunately I do not have time in the evenings, so it will have to
> be on weekends, unless someone else steps up and hosts.
>
>
> I would like to gauge interest in the above. Email me, or the list if
> interested in either of the above study groups.
>
>
> Stefan
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Al Jigong Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com>  wrote:
>> The Model Thinking course is finally live.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Model Thinking Course Staff<noreply at coursera.org>
>> Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
>> To: albill at openbuddha.com
>> Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
>>
>> Dear Al Billings,
>>
>> We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past couple
>> of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are all
>> posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get started:
>>
>> http://www.modelthinking-class.org/
>>
>> The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We will be
>> covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of
>> lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're understanding the
>> material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week,
>> starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will vary in
>> difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging numerical
>> calculations.
>>
>> I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by posting
>> alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as
>> extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the assignments.
>>
>> Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested in
>> learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form of
>> online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly encourage
>> you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and think
>> about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even find
>> that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
>>
>> Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought
>> provoking.
>>
>> Scotte
>>
>> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
>> staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Feb 20 13:45:25 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:45:25 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
In-Reply-To: <4F42BD00.4000605@xtreme.com>
References: <000001359c3c8acc-c16c7fe1-4535-446b-ae7a-9566a9c9af82-000000@email.amazonses.com>
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	<4F42BD00.4000605@xtreme.com>
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I'm game but I have a conflict for the next two Sundays. Once a month, I run a meditation retreat all day Sundays as well.



On Feb 20, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> I am interested in taking the Model Thinking course.  10-1 Sundays works for me.  Would this start next Sunday?  Is there a deadline?  He says it ends the last week in April, which for an online course confuses me a bit unless the materials are going to be taken down then.
> 
> Anyway I'm in.
> 
> Rachel
> 
> On 2/20/12 12:30 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>> That is true. And I expect that the machine learning class is not too
>> far behind.
>> 
>> I will be doing a couple of study groups:
>> 
>> Saturday will be Machine Learning, myself and Idris will be hosting.
>> Proposed time is: 10am - 1pm
>>  - both myself and Idris have completed machine learning, so we can
>> answer questions and offer guidance.
>> 
>> Sunday could be Model Thinking, myself so far (anyone else is
>> welcome). Proposed time is 10am - 1pm
>>  - this is a new course for me
>> 
>> Unfortunately I do not have time in the evenings, so it will have to
>> be on weekends, unless someone else steps up and hosts.
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to gauge interest in the above. Email me, or the list if
>> interested in either of the above study groups.
>> 
>> 
>> Stefan
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Al Jigong Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com>  wrote:
>>> The Model Thinking course is finally live.
>>> 
>>> Al
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: Model Thinking Course Staff<noreply at coursera.org>
>>> Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
>>> To: albill at openbuddha.com
>>> Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
>>> 
>>> Dear Al Billings,
>>> 
>>> We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past couple
>>> of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are all
>>> posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get started:
>>> 
>>> http://www.modelthinking-class.org/
>>> 
>>> The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We will be
>>> covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of
>>> lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're understanding the
>>> material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week,
>>> starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will vary in
>>> difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging numerical
>>> calculations.
>>> 
>>> I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by posting
>>> alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as
>>> extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the assignments.
>>> 
>>> Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested in
>>> learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form of
>>> online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly encourage
>>> you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and think
>>> about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even find
>>> that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
>>> 
>>> Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought
>>> provoking.
>>> 
>>> Scotte
>>> 
>>> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
>>> staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
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> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From romanian at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 13:46:45 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:46:45 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
In-Reply-To: <4F42BD00.4000605@xtreme.com>
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Glad you are in! There are two ways to take the course: for interest or for
certificate of completion. For the latter, there are quiz and hw deadlines,
so it will end sometime in April.

Stefan
On Feb 20, 2012 1:37 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> I am interested in taking the Model Thinking course.  10-1 Sundays works
> for me.  Would this start next Sunday?  Is there a deadline?  He says it
> ends the last week in April, which for an online course confuses me a bit
> unless the materials are going to be taken down then.
>
> Anyway I'm in.
>
> Rachel
>
> On 2/20/12 12:30 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>
>> That is true. And I expect that the machine learning class is not too
>> far behind.
>>
>> I will be doing a couple of study groups:
>>
>> Saturday will be Machine Learning, myself and Idris will be hosting.
>> Proposed time is: 10am - 1pm
>>  - both myself and Idris have completed machine learning, so we can
>> answer questions and offer guidance.
>>
>> Sunday could be Model Thinking, myself so far (anyone else is
>> welcome). Proposed time is 10am - 1pm
>>  - this is a new course for me
>>
>> Unfortunately I do not have time in the evenings, so it will have to
>> be on weekends, unless someone else steps up and hosts.
>>
>>
>> I would like to gauge interest in the above. Email me, or the list if
>> interested in either of the above study groups.
>>
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Al Jigong Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> The Model Thinking course is finally live.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: Model Thinking Course Staff<noreply at coursera.org>
>>> Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
>>> To: albill at openbuddha.com
>>> Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
>>>
>>> Dear Al Billings,
>>>
>>> We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past
>>> couple
>>> of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are all
>>> posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get started:
>>>
>>> http://www.modelthinking-**class.org/<http://www.modelthinking-class.org/>
>>>
>>> The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We will
>>> be
>>> covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of
>>> lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're understanding
>>> the
>>> material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week,
>>> starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will vary
>>> in
>>> difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging numerical
>>> calculations.
>>>
>>> I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by posting
>>> alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as
>>> extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the assignments.
>>>
>>> Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested in
>>> learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form of
>>> online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly
>>> encourage
>>> you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and
>>> think
>>> about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even
>>> find
>>> that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
>>>
>>> Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought
>>> provoking.
>>>
>>> Scotte
>>>
>>> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
>>> staff+unsubscribe at free-class.**org <staff%2Bunsubscribe at free-class.org>.
>>>
>>>
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From idris.raja at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 14:00:28 2012
From: idris.raja at gmail.com (Idris Raja)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:00:28 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Live!
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They left up the material from last session and it was accessible the last
time I checked. The schedule is for keeping people on the same pace that
want grades and the benefit of the community I suppose.

Also, 1000 or so people with top scores from the AI course last term were
offered jobs, or at least invited to submit their resumes to the
instructors to pass along to interested companies.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Glad you are in! There are two ways to take the course: for interest or
> for certificate of completion. For the latter, there are quiz and hw
> deadlines, so it will end sometime in April.
>
> Stefan
> On Feb 20, 2012 1:37 PM, "Rachel McConnell" <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
>
>> I am interested in taking the Model Thinking course.  10-1 Sundays works
>> for me.  Would this start next Sunday?  Is there a deadline?  He says it
>> ends the last week in April, which for an online course confuses me a bit
>> unless the materials are going to be taken down then.
>>
>> Anyway I'm in.
>>
>> Rachel
>>
>> On 2/20/12 12:30 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>>
>>> That is true. And I expect that the machine learning class is not too
>>> far behind.
>>>
>>> I will be doing a couple of study groups:
>>>
>>> Saturday will be Machine Learning, myself and Idris will be hosting.
>>> Proposed time is: 10am - 1pm
>>>  - both myself and Idris have completed machine learning, so we can
>>> answer questions and offer guidance.
>>>
>>> Sunday could be Model Thinking, myself so far (anyone else is
>>> welcome). Proposed time is 10am - 1pm
>>>  - this is a new course for me
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I do not have time in the evenings, so it will have to
>>> be on weekends, unless someone else steps up and hosts.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to gauge interest in the above. Email me, or the list if
>>> interested in either of the above study groups.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Al Jigong Billings
>>> <albill at openbuddha.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Model Thinking course is finally live.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> From: Model Thinking Course Staff<noreply at coursera.org>
>>>> Date: February 20, 2012 11:28:27 AM PST
>>>> To: albill at openbuddha.com
>>>> Subject: Model Thinking is Live!
>>>>
>>>> Dear Al Billings,
>>>>
>>>> We're now live!!! Thank you all for your patience during these past
>>>> couple
>>>> of weeks. The first two weeks of lectures, readings, and slides are all
>>>> posted. The discussion forum is live. Please click here to get started:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.modelthinking-**class.org/<http://www.modelthinking-class.org/>
>>>>
>>>> The class will last for ten weeks ending the last week of April. We
>>>> will be
>>>> covering two topics per week. Each topic will consist of a series of
>>>> lectures with some embedded questions to make sure you're understanding
>>>> the
>>>> material as well as required and supplementary readings. Every week,
>>>> starting in week two there will be a quiz. The quiz questions will vary
>>>> in
>>>> difficulty from basic competency questions to more challenging numerical
>>>> calculations.
>>>>
>>>> I encourage you to participate in our online discussion forum by posting
>>>> alternative resources, offering up new uses for the models as well as
>>>> extensions, and for providing feedback on the course and the
>>>> assignments.
>>>>
>>>> Please also forward this email to your friends who might be interested
>>>> in
>>>> learning about models or who might just be interested in this new form
>>>> of
>>>> online education. If you have friends taking the class, I strongly
>>>> encourage
>>>> you to form a study group to discuss the material with each other and
>>>> think
>>>> about how these models might be helpful in your lives. You might even
>>>> find
>>>> that it's more fun to watch the videos in a group.
>>>>
>>>> Welcome again, I hope that you find this class stimulating and thought
>>>> provoking.
>>>>
>>>> Scotte
>>>>
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From mark.garrison at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 21:06:26 2012
From: mark.garrison at gmail.com (Mark Garrison)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:06:26 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Saleae Open House (Logic analyzer startup in SF)
Message-ID: <CACpq9e-Cfchm-Vj1eiiABkBsn+vHcr8EuQRfGg-wPjsQDipRng@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,


My startup, Saleae LLC is having an open house this Thursday at our new
office in SF, starting at 7pm.


We make logic analyzers - digital data recorders used for debugging or
reverse engineering any kind of digital electronics.


Come by and see how we do automated testing, where we assemble, and what a
small hardware startup looks like.


If you?re curious about how to start selling your own electronics, we have
lots of advice on that too.


More info and RSVP here:

http://www.saleae.com/openhouse


Thanks,

Mark Garrison
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From robertcook at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 21:12:26 2012
From: robertcook at gmail.com (Robert Cook)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:12:26 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Saleae Open House (Logic analyzer startup in SF)
In-Reply-To: <CACpq9e-Cfchm-Vj1eiiABkBsn+vHcr8EuQRfGg-wPjsQDipRng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACpq9e-Cfchm-Vj1eiiABkBsn+vHcr8EuQRfGg-wPjsQDipRng@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3F69C79D-70E9-4E6C-9E0E-4F89A7A3F626@gmail.com>

I didn't realize you guys were local!  I love my 8 channel analyzer.  Its also a much better use for milled aluminum than an iPhone stand.

On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Mark Garrison wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> My startup, Saleae LLC is having an open house this Thursday at our new office in SF, starting at 7pm.
> 
> 
> 
> We make logic analyzers - digital data recorders used for debugging or reverse engineering any kind of digital electronics.
> 
> 
> 
> Come by and see how we do automated testing, where we assemble, and what a small hardware startup looks like.
> 
> 
> 
> If you?re curious about how to start selling your own electronics, we have lots of advice on that too.
> 
> 
> 
> More info and RSVP here:
> 
> http://www.saleae.com/openhouse
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Garrison
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From albill at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 22:19:17 2012
From: albill at gmail.com (Al Jigong BIllings)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:19:17 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Leaf Blower Hovercraft racing
Message-ID: <1F9CC62A-8B0A-4290-A3BF-3C126F56614B@openbuddha.com>

We have a concrete floored hallway in our building which does a complete circle around the center of the building.

This is built for leaf blower hovercraft racing.

We need to do this.

http://www.schooltube.com/video/8c051a37f9884c9bb6d9/Physics-Class-Leafblower-Hovercraft



From albill at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 22:20:31 2012
From: albill at gmail.com (Al Jigong BIllings)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:20:31 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Second hovercraft video...
Message-ID: <526BB6A6-9AA1-47B1-92DA-B63857795166@openbuddha.com>

http://www.schooltube.com/video/1e149b20d6c54ba69b67/


From alexhandy at gmail.com  Mon Feb 20 22:32:47 2012
From: alexhandy at gmail.com (Alex Handy)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:32:47 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Second hovercraft video...
In-Reply-To: <526BB6A6-9AA1-47B1-92DA-B63857795166@openbuddha.com>
References: <526BB6A6-9AA1-47B1-92DA-B63857795166@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAA=2GRkZ=2SfToNcWgkmy2zdxeUnC3K3hcrpNBpZ_bt0BTHfXA@mail.gmail.com>

Just fyi, a friend of mine made one out of a shop vac and an innertube. It
worked, until it flew apart and cut a gash in his face.
On Feb 20, 2012 10:21 PM, "Al Jigong BIllings" <albill at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.schooltube.com/video/1e149b20d6c54ba69b67/
> _______________________________________________
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Feb 20 22:33:55 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong BIllings)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:33:55 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Second hovercraft video...
In-Reply-To: <CAA=2GRkZ=2SfToNcWgkmy2zdxeUnC3K3hcrpNBpZ_bt0BTHfXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <526BB6A6-9AA1-47B1-92DA-B63857795166@openbuddha.com>
	<CAA=2GRkZ=2SfToNcWgkmy2zdxeUnC3K3hcrpNBpZ_bt0BTHfXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6A024379-C4A7-491F-8597-344E16224C4E@openbuddha.com>


On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Alex Handy wrote:

> Just fyi, a friend of mine made one out of a shop vac and an innertube. It worked, until it flew apart and cut a gash in his face.
> 

So you're saying that we might want to wear helmets?

Al


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From slick at rebelbase.com  Mon Feb 20 23:21:19 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:21:19 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Second hovercraft video...
In-Reply-To: <6A024379-C4A7-491F-8597-344E16224C4E@openbuddha.com>
References: <526BB6A6-9AA1-47B1-92DA-B63857795166@openbuddha.com>
	<CAA=2GRkZ=2SfToNcWgkmy2zdxeUnC3K3hcrpNBpZ_bt0BTHfXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6A024379-C4A7-491F-8597-344E16224C4E@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmuSov9RPSOh6UpQduFADV-5u6mJMJtpz1esiZ7yK7WzDMhjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Something like this?
http://www.murrays.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=52-11&Category_Code=&Store_Code=MS

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Al Jigong BIllings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Alex Handy wrote:
>
> Just fyi, a friend of mine made one out of a shop vac and an innertube. It
> worked, until it flew apart and cut a gash in his face.
>
>
> So you're saying that we might want to wear helmets?
>
> Al
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From rachel at xtreme.com  Tue Feb 21 00:31:47 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:31:47 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Second hovercraft video...
In-Reply-To: <CAMmuSov9RPSOh6UpQduFADV-5u6mJMJtpz1esiZ7yK7WzDMhjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <526BB6A6-9AA1-47B1-92DA-B63857795166@openbuddha.com>
	<CAA=2GRkZ=2SfToNcWgkmy2zdxeUnC3K3hcrpNBpZ_bt0BTHfXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6A024379-C4A7-491F-8597-344E16224C4E@openbuddha.com>
	<CAMmuSov9RPSOh6UpQduFADV-5u6mJMJtpz1esiZ7yK7WzDMhjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F435673.8070406@xtreme.com>

I have wanted to make one of these for just YEARS.  I will risk facial 
scarring.  There's a guy at maker faire who brought a lot of them one 
year, he had a really sweet design consisting of a circle of plywood 
with an offcenter hole for the leaf blower; you sat opposite it.  The 
skirt was made of some kind of rubberized fabric, stapled tightly around 
the edge.  I think there were 6 holes in the bottom, about halfway along 
the radius and spaced evenly.

OK this is back on my project list, woo!

On 2/20/12 11:21 PM, slick wrote:
> Something like this?
> http://www.murrays.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=52-11&Category_Code=&Store_Code=MS
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Al Jigong BIllings
> <albill at openbuddha.com>  wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Alex Handy wrote:
>>
>> Just fyi, a friend of mine made one out of a shop vac and an innertube. It
>> worked, until it flew apart and cut a gash in his face.
>>
>>
>> So you're saying that we might want to wear helmets?
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Feb 21 00:42:11 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:42:11 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Second hovercraft video...
In-Reply-To: <4F435673.8070406@xtreme.com>
References: <526BB6A6-9AA1-47B1-92DA-B63857795166@openbuddha.com>
	<CAA=2GRkZ=2SfToNcWgkmy2zdxeUnC3K3hcrpNBpZ_bt0BTHfXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6A024379-C4A7-491F-8597-344E16224C4E@openbuddha.com>
	<CAMmuSov9RPSOh6UpQduFADV-5u6mJMJtpz1esiZ7yK7WzDMhjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F435673.8070406@xtreme.com>
Message-ID: <6DB5602F-36FC-472C-81B8-4C0C3A45A9BE@openbuddha.com>

I'm too old to worry about pretty. I'm more worried about LIFT!

Anyone else?

On Feb 21, 2012, at 12:31 AM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> I have wanted to make one of these for just YEARS.  I will risk facial scarring.  There's a guy at maker faire who brought a lot of them one year, he had a really sweet design consisting of a circle of plywood with an offcenter hole for the leaf blower; you sat opposite it.  The skirt was made of some kind of rubberized fabric, stapled tightly around the edge.  I think there were 6 holes in the bottom, about halfway along the radius and spaced evenly.
> 
> OK this is back on my project list, woo!
> 
> On 2/20/12 11:21 PM, slick wrote:
>> Something like this?
>> http://www.murrays.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=52-11&Category_Code=&Store_Code=MS
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Al Jigong BIllings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Alex Handy wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just fyi, a friend of mine made one out of a shop vac and an innertube. It
>>> worked, until it flew apart and cut a gash in his face.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So you're saying that we might want to wear helmets?
>>> 
>>> Al
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Feb 21 00:43:41 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:43:41 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Startup weekend in 3D
Message-ID: <8A215744-0E20-428A-9943-7C23B8D8D552@openbuddha.com>

I found this on the Hacker Dojo email list.

David Weekly <dweekly at gmail.com> Feb 20 07:25PM -0800  

Thought people would be interested to know about this special maker-
focused StartupWeekend...! :)
 
http://3d.startupweekend.org/
 
---
 
Get ready for the first ever Maker Startup Weekend! From March 2-4,
TechShop and Autodesk will be hosting this new trend in venture
creation?a 54-hour event where developers, designers, marketers,
product managers and startup enthusiasts come together to share ideas,
form teams, build products and launch startups. This special Maker
Startup Weekend will infuse the typical web-based Startup Weekend
format with the rapid prototyping and product development capabilities
made possible by Autodesk and TechShop. This is the first Maker
Weekend specifically geared toward making physical objects to bring to
market. The possibilities are endless.
 
In addition to the weekend event, there will be an intensive day-long
maker workshop on Friday, March 2nd. Participants will have the
opportunity to take a series of classes in cutting-edge technologies
and design software. The courses will be run by Autodesk and TechShop
professionals.
 
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From slick at rebelbase.com  Tue Feb 21 13:25:53 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:25:53 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Second hovercraft video...
In-Reply-To: <6DB5602F-36FC-472C-81B8-4C0C3A45A9BE@openbuddha.com>
References: <526BB6A6-9AA1-47B1-92DA-B63857795166@openbuddha.com>
	<CAA=2GRkZ=2SfToNcWgkmy2zdxeUnC3K3hcrpNBpZ_bt0BTHfXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6A024379-C4A7-491F-8597-344E16224C4E@openbuddha.com>
	<CAMmuSov9RPSOh6UpQduFADV-5u6mJMJtpz1esiZ7yK7WzDMhjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F435673.8070406@xtreme.com>
	<6DB5602F-36FC-472C-81B8-4C0C3A45A9BE@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmuSosJVDLCj=O-H1Wj1ZypwbPUy-WQDVcGdxpstCfpnW5acg@mail.gmail.com>

I think "hovercraft" was my first wacko project desire.

http://www.certtrans.com/hovercrafts


On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> I'm too old to worry about pretty. I'm more worried about LIFT!
>
> Anyone else?
>
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 12:31 AM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
>
>> I have wanted to make one of these for just YEARS. ?I will risk facial scarring. ?There's a guy at maker faire who brought a lot of them one year, he had a really sweet design consisting of a circle of plywood with an offcenter hole for the leaf blower; you sat opposite it. ?The skirt was made of some kind of rubberized fabric, stapled tightly around the edge. ?I think there were 6 holes in the bottom, about halfway along the radius and spaced evenly.
>>
>> OK this is back on my project list, woo!
>>
>> On 2/20/12 11:21 PM, slick wrote:
>>> Something like this?
>>> http://www.murrays.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=52-11&Category_Code=&Store_Code=MS
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Al Jigong BIllings
>>> <albill at openbuddha.com> ?wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Alex Handy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just fyi, a friend of mine made one out of a shop vac and an innertube. It
>>>> worked, until it flew apart and cut a gash in his face.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you're saying that we might want to wear helmets?
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Wed Feb 22 13:26:19 2012
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:26:19 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Casting call for Discovery Channel "Top Engineer" series
Message-ID: <CABZdcAnfQqptF245dJWEjWqYB3fA_+W_aan3diaVJaVioG-m9Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://pilgrimstudios.com/casting/topengineer/

^^

*hawt*

--
Heph


From drorex at gmail.com  Wed Feb 22 18:07:14 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:07:14 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Another free online course, this time from MIT
Message-ID: <CACAQXeK2onb4q2S_MHg29bqWvbkiT53ALg7g5B=Oc+1-aV+Big@mail.gmail.com>

This looks interesting for anyone who wants to get a more formal education
into the basics of electronics. It will help you understand what's really
going on when you're wiring up little widgets to your arduinos. I might
organize a study group on this one if people are interested (perhaps right
after the other study groups, in case people with tons of free time are
taking multiple of the online courses that seem to be popping up these days)

6.002x (Circuits and Electronics) is an experimental on-line adaptation of
> MIT?s first undergraduate analog design course: 6.002. This course will
> run, free of charge, for students worldwide from March 5, 2012 through June
> 8, 2012.


https://6002x.mitx.mit.edu/

*About 6.002x
> *6.002x (Circuits and Electronics) is designed to serve as a first course
> in an undergraduate electrical engineering (EE), or electrical engineering
> and computer science (EECS) curriculum. At MIT, 6.002 is in the core of
> department subjects required for all undergraduates in EECS.
> The course introduces engineering in the context of the lumped circuit
> abstraction. Topics covered include: resistive elements and networks;
> independent and dependent sources; switches and MOS transistors; digital
> abstraction; amplifiers; energy storage elements; dynamics of first- and
> second-order networks; design in the time and frequency domains; and analog
> and digital circuits and applications. Design and lab exercises are also
> significant components of the course. You should expect to spend
> approximately 10 hours per week on the course.
> *Requirements*
> In order to succeed in this course, you must have taken an AP level
> physics course in electricity and magnetism. You must know basic calculus
> and linear algebra and have some background in differential equations.
> Since more advanced mathematics will not show up until the second half of
> the course, the first half of the course will include an optional remedial
> differential equations component for those who need it.
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From ry at n.rix.si  Wed Feb 22 23:33:44 2012
From: ry at n.rix.si (Ryan Rix)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:33:44 -0700
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: [HSL] Would you like to play a game? (Stripe CTF)
Message-ID: <13856280.H3BJrP2i8s@stinkpad>

Hey all,

https://stripe.com/blog/capture-the-flag

r

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From romanian at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 10:53:38 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:53:38 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] for all you east bay self-quantifiers
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwwMYY9dXG-K2tx5Ko2NEyjn27v02-6TVFD3xOLipQkQog@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.meetup.com/Berkeley-QS/events/53403572/

I will also suggest that they come on over to Ace for their next
meetup. It should be interesting.


Stefan


From albill at openbuddha.com  Thu Feb 23 10:59:03 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:59:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] for all you east bay self-quantifiers
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwwMYY9dXG-K2tx5Ko2NEyjn27v02-6TVFD3xOLipQkQog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPdpSwwMYY9dXG-K2tx5Ko2NEyjn27v02-6TVFD3xOLipQkQog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F468C77.7030709@openbuddha.com>

On 2/23/12 10:53 AM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> http://www.meetup.com/Berkeley-QS/events/53403572/
>
> I will also suggest that they come on over to Ace for their next
> meetup. It should be interesting.
>

I saw the notice about this too and am hoping to go.

Al



From drorex at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 11:26:25 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:26:25 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] for all you east bay self-quantifiers
In-Reply-To: <4F468C77.7030709@openbuddha.com>
References: <CAPdpSwwMYY9dXG-K2tx5Ko2NEyjn27v02-6TVFD3xOLipQkQog@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F468C77.7030709@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeJAxcehko7FWrHqGFEj-dsZ=s52fpoXs0H+n+6aQCAUUA@mail.gmail.com>

Leave a stack of flyers if you go

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

> On 2/23/12 10:53 AM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> > http://www.meetup.com/Berkeley-QS/events/53403572/
> >
> > I will also suggest that they come on over to Ace for their next
> > meetup. It should be interesting.
> >
>
> I saw the notice about this too and am hoping to go.
>
> Al
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From me at robbiet.us  Thu Feb 23 23:20:45 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:20:45 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] I resigned
Message-ID: <CAPs-5xURq5goqiTpz0MLD-das0qB3o0xXVem-ZFObYPh7uO=QQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thought I would attach the letter for you all. Al accepted my resignation
at the meeting today as per the bylaws.

Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
925-884-3728
robbie.io
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From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 09:14:25 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:14:25 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] We need your MAC address
Message-ID: <CACAQXeKQKrRcZEwLq5C4sJPoyMUZOYaKG+4p3Re_Eh69Oh_=4g@mail.gmail.com>

I'm setting up a system so people can easily know when someone is in the
space, without needing to see you on webcam, by seeing if your devices are
connected to wifi. To do that, we need the MAC address of your devices that
you connect to wifi in the space. Please input them here:

http://acemonstertoys.org/pamela/associate.php

The data isn't being used yet, but it will be soon. You can see the
machines currently on our network here:

http://acemonstertoys.org/pamela/
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From hephaestus at antipunk.net  Fri Feb 24 10:13:32 2012
From: hephaestus at antipunk.net (Hephaestus)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:13:32 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] We need your MAC address
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeKQKrRcZEwLq5C4sJPoyMUZOYaKG+4p3Re_Eh69Oh_=4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeKQKrRcZEwLq5C4sJPoyMUZOYaKG+4p3Re_Eh69Oh_=4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABZdcAkDaY64VT2Y27qqtfWv3YtLk+kL-U0S30s+99wMY5hzVA@mail.gmail.com>

Now I know what being a cat vs a laser pointer feels like...

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:14 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm setting up a system so people can easily know when someone is in the
> space, without needing to see you on webcam, by seeing if your devices are
> connected to wifi. To do that, we need the MAC address of your devices that
> you connect to wifi in the space. Please input them here:
>
> http://acemonstertoys.org/pamela/associate.php
>
> The data isn't being used yet, but it will be soon. You can see the machines
> currently on our network here:
>
> http://acemonstertoys.org/pamela/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 10:16:34 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:16:34 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] We need your MAC address
In-Reply-To: <CABZdcAkDaY64VT2Y27qqtfWv3YtLk+kL-U0S30s+99wMY5hzVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeKQKrRcZEwLq5C4sJPoyMUZOYaKG+4p3Re_Eh69Oh_=4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABZdcAkDaY64VT2Y27qqtfWv3YtLk+kL-U0S30s+99wMY5hzVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXe+3UMkP6N-n3C44CZnDRQ=+tN-QgnJgZkhHseAEMt5H6g@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, if you want to see the list without the headache inducing display, just
say "!people" on our IRC channel.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net>wrote:

> Now I know what being a cat vs a laser pointer feels like...
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:14 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm setting up a system so people can easily know when someone is in the
> > space, without needing to see you on webcam, by seeing if your devices
> are
> > connected to wifi. To do that, we need the MAC address of your devices
> that
> > you connect to wifi in the space. Please input them here:
> >
> > http://acemonstertoys.org/pamela/associate.php
> >
> > The data isn't being used yet, but it will be soon. You can see the
> machines
> > currently on our network here:
> >
> > http://acemonstertoys.org/pamela/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 10:59:18 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:59:18 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] We need your MAC address
In-Reply-To: <CABZdcAkDaY64VT2Y27qqtfWv3YtLk+kL-U0S30s+99wMY5hzVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeKQKrRcZEwLq5C4sJPoyMUZOYaKG+4p3Re_Eh69Oh_=4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABZdcAkDaY64VT2Y27qqtfWv3YtLk+kL-U0S30s+99wMY5hzVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwyCKGUpP-AtYZMe4zbMoE2TkBqdTShat4WFcwJ3m4T+pQ@mail.gmail.com>

@.@
this is FUUUUhhhhhnn...fun <barf>

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
> Now I know what being a cat vs a laser pointer feels like...
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:14 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm setting up a system so people can easily know when someone is in the
>> space, without needing to see you on webcam, by seeing if your devices are
>> connected to wifi. To do that, we need the MAC address of your devices that
>> you connect to wifi in the space. Please input them here:
>>
>> http://acemonstertoys.org/pamela/associate.php
>>
>> The data isn't being used yet, but it will be soon. You can see the machines
>> currently on our network here:
>>
>> http://acemonstertoys.org/pamela/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From albill at openbuddha.com  Fri Feb 24 14:58:50 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:58:50 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] we have meeting notes
Message-ID: <4F48162A.7000400@openbuddha.com>

Atom Bomb is actually taking meeting notes now.

See http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Feb_23_2012 for last night's.

Al



From slick at rebelbase.com  Fri Feb 24 16:11:53 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:11:53 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] we have meeting notes
In-Reply-To: <4F48162A.7000400@openbuddha.com>
References: <4F48162A.7000400@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmuSou-ymB=woO=Ge9UTsf4URMvP2nnQSTAUDzxd6j7kY_Vaw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Atom_Bomb!

Just a suggestion, if 'sub-pages' is enabled in our wikimedia server
it would be possible to make a page called:

http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes

and then sub-pages called:

http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes/Feb_23_2012

etc.

might make stuff easier to find/organize

-Aaron

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> Atom Bomb is actually taking meeting notes now.
>
> See http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Feb_23_2012 for last night's.
>
> Al
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From tewing at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 16:14:15 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:14:15 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] we have meeting notes
In-Reply-To: <CAMmuSou-ymB=woO=Ge9UTsf4URMvP2nnQSTAUDzxd6j7kY_Vaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F48162A.7000400@openbuddha.com>
	<CAMmuSou-ymB=woO=Ge9UTsf4URMvP2nnQSTAUDzxd6j7kY_Vaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9643EFEE-6B1C-48EB-BDD2-C8F8898C0DA7@gmail.com>

Excellent notes.  You should come teach my co-workers your skills.

On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:11 PM, slick wrote:

> Thanks Atom_Bomb!
> 
> Just a suggestion, if 'sub-pages' is enabled in our wikimedia server
> it would be possible to make a page called:
> 
> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes
> 
> and then sub-pages called:
> 
> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes/Feb_23_2012
> 
> etc.
> 
> might make stuff easier to find/organize
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Al Jigong Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> Atom Bomb is actually taking meeting notes now.
>> 
>> See http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Feb_23_2012 for last night's.
>> 
>> Al
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss



From tewing at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 16:26:39 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:26:39 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] I resigned
In-Reply-To: <CAPs-5xURq5goqiTpz0MLD-das0qB3o0xXVem-ZFObYPh7uO=QQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPs-5xURq5goqiTpz0MLD-das0qB3o0xXVem-ZFObYPh7uO=QQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8BB39135-2D42-4C83-96FD-63EC2EDC453E@gmail.com>

FTFY.


On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:

> Thought I would attach the letter for you all. Al accepted my resignation at the meeting today as per the bylaws.
> 
> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie)
> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
> 925-884-3728
> robbie.io
> 
> <AMTResignation.docx>_______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 16:26:52 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:26:52 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] we have meeting notes
In-Reply-To: <CAMmuSou-ymB=woO=Ge9UTsf4URMvP2nnQSTAUDzxd6j7kY_Vaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F48162A.7000400@openbuddha.com>
	<CAMmuSou-ymB=woO=Ge9UTsf4URMvP2nnQSTAUDzxd6j7kY_Vaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACAQXeJMy9PHRFc+Bo4+ETFNFe=SQ_URc77XDSVVPLT05r-6Nw@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, turned subpage stuff on. I'm not sure what the difference really is,
since before I turned it on, you could make a page called "
Meeting_Minutes/Feb_23_2012<http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes/Feb_23_2012>"
still. It doesn't automatically categorize or put things in a tree or
anything that I can see.

FYI the meeting notes are all listed here:
http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Category:Meetings

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:11 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:

> Thanks Atom_Bomb!
>
> Just a suggestion, if 'sub-pages' is enabled in our wikimedia server
> it would be possible to make a page called:
>
> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes
>
> and then sub-pages called:
>
> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes/Feb_23_2012
>
> etc.
>
> might make stuff easier to find/organize
>
> -Aaron
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Al Jigong Billings
> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
> > Atom Bomb is actually taking meeting notes now.
> >
> > See http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Feb_23_2012 for last night's.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From me at robbiet.us  Fri Feb 24 16:50:22 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:50:22 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] I resigned
In-Reply-To: <8BB39135-2D42-4C83-96FD-63EC2EDC453E@gmail.com>
References: <CAPs-5xURq5goqiTpz0MLD-das0qB3o0xXVem-ZFObYPh7uO=QQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<8BB39135-2D42-4C83-96FD-63EC2EDC453E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPs-5xVoRRV7qjFA+DJ3T8drpEvM8_V9FuJyyKfQO9AkmusWQw@mail.gmail.com>

Lemon Party was a nice touch.

Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
925-884-3728
robbie.io



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Terry Ewing <tewing at gmail.com> wrote:

> FTFY.
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Robbie Trencheny wrote:
>
> Thought I would attach the letter for you all. Al accepted my resignation
> at the meeting today as per the bylaws.
>
> Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
> Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
> 925-884-3728
> robbie.io
>
>  <AMTResignation.docx>_______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
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From slick at rebelbase.com  Fri Feb 24 16:53:55 2012
From: slick at rebelbase.com (slick)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:53:55 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] we have meeting notes
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeJMy9PHRFc+Bo4+ETFNFe=SQ_URc77XDSVVPLT05r-6Nw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F48162A.7000400@openbuddha.com>
	<CAMmuSou-ymB=woO=Ge9UTsf4URMvP2nnQSTAUDzxd6j7kY_Vaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACAQXeJMy9PHRFc+Bo4+ETFNFe=SQ_URc77XDSVVPLT05r-6Nw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmuSov+V1SJWb=ThY+9Y7CgUoo_E9oP9KrJHSCWFALKm7tuyQ@mail.gmail.com>

It puts links to the parent pages at the top. see attachemnt.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:26 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, turned subpage stuff on. I'm not sure what the difference really is,
> since before I turned it on, you could make a page called
> "Meeting_Minutes/Feb_23_2012" still. It doesn't automatically categorize or
> put things in a tree or anything that I can see.
>
> FYI the meeting notes are all listed here:
> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Category:Meetings
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:11 PM, slick <slick at rebelbase.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Atom_Bomb!
>>
>> Just a suggestion, if 'sub-pages' is enabled in our wikimedia server
>> it would be possible to make a page called:
>>
>> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes
>>
>> and then sub-pages called:
>>
>> http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Meeting_Minutes/Feb_23_2012
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> might make stuff easier to find/organize
>>
>> -Aaron
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Al Jigong Billings
>> <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>> > Atom Bomb is actually taking meeting notes now.
>> >
>> > See http://wiki.acemonstertoys.org/Feb_23_2012 for last night's.
>> >
>> > Al
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Discuss mailing list
>> > Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> > http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 17:22:38 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:22:38 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Anyone going to the CNC meetup tomorrow?
Message-ID: <CACAQXeKmWObeXn=9e0_pC5Vtff_C7V4GYCfzDK9i3_-KGkxXXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Wondering if I could get a lift, I live like 5 miles from the place but am
too lazy to bicycle.
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From romanian at gmail.com  Fri Feb 24 18:07:36 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:07:36 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Anyone going to the CNC meetup tomorrow?
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeKmWObeXn=9e0_pC5Vtff_C7V4GYCfzDK9i3_-KGkxXXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeKmWObeXn=9e0_pC5Vtff_C7V4GYCfzDK9i3_-KGkxXXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwz4ir8auicPG_pMhEW06y-DcZ=LkSnQo3d_hvo7rtsU3A@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:22 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wondering if I could get a lift, I live like 5 miles from the place but am
> too lazy to bicycle.
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>


From biff at cliffle.com  Sat Feb 25 00:48:18 2012
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:48:18 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] We need your MAC address
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwyCKGUpP-AtYZMe4zbMoE2TkBqdTShat4WFcwJ3m4T+pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeKQKrRcZEwLq5C4sJPoyMUZOYaKG+4p3Re_Eh69Oh_=4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABZdcAkDaY64VT2Y27qqtfWv3YtLk+kL-U0S30s+99wMY5hzVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwyCKGUpP-AtYZMe4zbMoE2TkBqdTShat4WFcwJ3m4T+pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+hY8PqtncRGKgN-o=F9m2kyhty-1zQ1018Z=zb3KnvhDJnaQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> @.@
> this is FUUUUhhhhhnn...fun <barf>
>

It's pretty motion-sickness-inducing in Chrome, but it's better in Firefox,
since the frame rate is so much lower.

*duck*

-- 
Cliff L. Biffle
http://cliffle.com/
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From ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com  Sat Feb 25 09:11:58 2012
From: ccook at dirtylittlemonkey.com (Christopher Cook)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:11:58 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] We need your MAC address
In-Reply-To: <CA+hY8PqtncRGKgN-o=F9m2kyhty-1zQ1018Z=zb3KnvhDJnaQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeKQKrRcZEwLq5C4sJPoyMUZOYaKG+4p3Re_Eh69Oh_=4g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABZdcAkDaY64VT2Y27qqtfWv3YtLk+kL-U0S30s+99wMY5hzVA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwyCKGUpP-AtYZMe4zbMoE2TkBqdTShat4WFcwJ3m4T+pQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+hY8PqtncRGKgN-o=F9m2kyhty-1zQ1018Z=zb3KnvhDJnaQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMDVYobv7z_oUubxRZt_emDyiR+449w8JFt=DeokTbB05TGe6Q@mail.gmail.com>

LOL Cliff FTW!

On Saturday, February 25, 2012, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'romanian at gmail.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>> @.@
>> this is FUUUUhhhhhnn...fun <barf>
>>
>
> It's pretty motion-sickness-inducing in Chrome, but it's better in
> Firefox, since the frame rate is so much lower.
>
> *duck*
>
> --
> Cliff L. Biffle
> http://cliffle.com/
>
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From me at robbiet.us  Sat Feb 25 17:03:01 2012
From: me at robbiet.us (Robbie Trencheny)
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:03:01 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Forgot TPLink router
Message-ID: <CAPs-5xU-Y9jr584xau8LQRxSyw0ryWiTK0T0G8PRRdbRuh8PwA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

If anyone is at the space or is going to be can you please grab my 2 TPLink
routers and bring them to my house which is about 10-15 minutes from AMT
(in Downtown Oakland). I don't have a car and can't get back out there
anytime this weekend but really want them before I leave. Reply to me if
you can and I will give you my address.

Thanks!
Robbie Trencheny (@robbie <http://twitter.com/robbie>)
Developer, CTO, Internet Enthusiast
925-884-3728
robbie.io
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From drorex at gmail.com  Sun Feb 26 13:07:40 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:07:40 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] TechShop discount
Message-ID: <CACAQXe+-YoYJnaTVqqaqB96s+f1muQJDiM7C7oVoetVkNo5mGg@mail.gmail.com>

Saw this on the nb list, people here may be interested. Normal price is
$125/month and ~$100 a class (varies)

For those into TechShop, I just saw a great deal to get a membership for
> much cheaper than normal:
>
>
> http://www.livingsocial.com/cities/1727/deals/267140-one-month-membership-and-two-jumpstart-classes
>
> TechShop
>
> One-Month Membership and Either Two JumpStart Classes or One Choice Class
>
> $95
>
> If you live in the Bay -- home to Maker Faire and a surprising number of
> friends who brew their own kombucha -- DIY is in your DNA. And today's deal
> from TechShop is a natural selection for a city that loves to make things.
> For $95, you'll get a one-month membership and either two JumpStart classes
> or one Choice class. Whether you want to make and sell eco-friendly
> jewelry, build a record-spinning robot, or construct a 30-foot-tall Burning
> Man installation, this open-access workshop (with locations in SoMa, Menlo
> Park, and San Jose) has everything you need to go from ideation to
> creation: milling machines, drill presses, laser cutters, sewing machines,
> and much more. TechShop classes -- which range from Basic Sewing to
> Advanced Metal Lathe to How to File Your Patent -- will teach you the
> skills you need to get through every step of a do-it-yourself project. Grab
> today's deal and nurture that crafty nature of yours.
>
> Class list: http://www.techshop.ws/class_types.html
>
>
<http://www.livingsocial.com/cities/1727/deals/267140-one-month-membership-and-two-jumpstart-classes>
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From drorex at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 14:18:03 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:18:03 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Cliff is famous
Message-ID: <CACAQXe++z1Wf0rEmuwwfui121o7m2N6GAgxVv4jPjTdMrV2B_g@mail.gmail.com>

Makerbot printed 392 of his chess pieces to demonstrate how much you
can print with 1kg of plastic (They turned it down to 5% infill though
which I feel is a bit cheaty since the default is 20%)

http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2012/02/24/a-matter-of-scales-how-much-can-you-print-with-a-single-1kg-spool/


From romanian at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 16:00:04 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:00:04 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Cliff is famous
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXe++z1Wf0rEmuwwfui121o7m2N6GAgxVv4jPjTdMrV2B_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXe++z1Wf0rEmuwwfui121o7m2N6GAgxVv4jPjTdMrV2B_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwysCjnwgjVbBAuj_P=PJQsdNOC0_Xt293stXNF6fG4rVg@mail.gmail.com>

BOOO YA! go Cliff!

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
> Makerbot printed 392 of his chess pieces to demonstrate how much you
> can print with 1kg of plastic (They turned it down to 5% infill though
> which I feel is a bit cheaty since the default is 20%)
>
> http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2012/02/24/a-matter-of-scales-how-much-can-you-print-with-a-single-1kg-spool/
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss


From tewing at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 16:08:25 2012
From: tewing at gmail.com (Terry Ewing)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:08:25 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Cliff is famous
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwysCjnwgjVbBAuj_P=PJQsdNOC0_Xt293stXNF6fG4rVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXe++z1Wf0rEmuwwfui121o7m2N6GAgxVv4jPjTdMrV2B_g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwysCjnwgjVbBAuj_P=PJQsdNOC0_Xt293stXNF6fG4rVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5C7F2BC5-731E-4BA9-A7B2-B6719B540A66@gmail.com>

I approve of the new word "cheaty"!

On Feb 27, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:

> BOOO YA! go Cliff!
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Makerbot printed 392 of his chess pieces to demonstrate how much you
>> can print with 1kg of plastic (They turned it down to 5% infill though
>> which I feel is a bit cheaty since the default is 20%)
>> 
>> http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2012/02/24/a-matter-of-scales-how-much-can-you-print-with-a-single-1kg-spool/
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Mon Feb 27 18:22:02 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:22:02 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
In-Reply-To: <00000135b8c8293b-6594d65c-3bc1-40eb-b34a-9dc068ee28f5-000000@email.amazonses.com>
References: <00000135b8c8293b-6594d65c-3bc1-40eb-b34a-9dc068ee28f5-000000@email.amazonses.com>
Message-ID: <4F4C3A4A.2020002@openbuddha.com>

Who else is taking Model Thinking?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
Date: 	Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000
From: 	Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
To: 	albill at openbuddha.com



Dear Al Billings,

Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please go to
https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
to create an account and to enroll.

Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing the first
lecture videos, and participate in the discussion forum. The first
assignments will also be made available shortly. Note that if this is
the first time you're logging into a course, you will need to create a
new account with us, which you can then use to login to all of our courses.

Please go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!

Coursera Staff

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From louise.s.fox at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 18:23:13 2012
From: louise.s.fox at gmail.com (Louise Fox)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:23:13 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
In-Reply-To: <4F4C3A4A.2020002@openbuddha.com>
References: <00000135b8c8293b-6594d65c-3bc1-40eb-b34a-9dc068ee28f5-000000@email.amazonses.com>
	<4F4C3A4A.2020002@openbuddha.com>
Message-ID: <CAPxmc0HdeygxNsJCZ8=U0G6Egyd4Um-b8V648j8ayGA3X0SgPA@mail.gmail.com>

I am!

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Al Jigong Billings
<albill at openbuddha.com>wrote:

>  Who else is taking Model Thinking?
>
> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: Model Thinking is Open for
> Registration!  Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000  From: Model
> Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org> <noreply at coursera.org>  To:
> albill at openbuddha.com
>
> Dear Al Billings,
>
> Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please go to
> https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>to create an account and to enroll.
>
> Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing the first
> lecture videos, and participate in the discussion forum. The first
> assignments will also be made available shortly. Note that if this is the
> first time you're logging into a course, you will need to create a new
> account with us, which you can then use to login to all of our courses.
>
> Please go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!
>
> Coursera Staff
>
> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
> staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From lee.shoe at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 18:25:07 2012
From: lee.shoe at gmail.com (tim shores)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:25:07 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
In-Reply-To: <CAPxmc0HdeygxNsJCZ8=U0G6Egyd4Um-b8V648j8ayGA3X0SgPA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00000135b8c8293b-6594d65c-3bc1-40eb-b34a-9dc068ee28f5-000000@email.amazonses.com>
	<4F4C3A4A.2020002@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPxmc0HdeygxNsJCZ8=U0G6Egyd4Um-b8V648j8ayGA3X0SgPA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F4C3B03.6030002@gmail.com>

i am.

-tim


On 2/27/2012 6:23 PM, Louise Fox wrote:
> I am!
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Al Jigong Billings 
> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>
>     Who else is taking Model Thinking?
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: 	Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
>     Date: 	Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000
>     From: 	Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
>     <mailto:noreply at coursera.org>
>     To: 	albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>
>
>
>
>     Dear Al Billings,
>
>     Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please go to
>     https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>     <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>     to create an account and to enroll.
>
>     Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing the
>     first lecture videos, and participate in the discussion forum. The
>     first assignments will also be made available shortly. Note that
>     if this is the first time you're logging into a course, you will
>     need to create a new account with us, which you can then use to
>     login to all of our courses.
>
>     Please go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>     <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>     to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!
>
>     Coursera Staff
>
>     If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please
>     reply to staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Discuss mailing list
>     Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>     <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>     http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Louise Fox
> Mechanical Engineer
>
>
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From romanian at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 18:51:51 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:51:51 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
In-Reply-To: <4F4C3B03.6030002@gmail.com>
References: <00000135b8c8293b-6594d65c-3bc1-40eb-b34a-9dc068ee28f5-000000@email.amazonses.com>
	<4F4C3A4A.2020002@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPxmc0HdeygxNsJCZ8=U0G6Egyd4Um-b8V648j8ayGA3X0SgPA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F4C3B03.6030002@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwy4WP1HTz1Y0XiNYktjirwNs+XL=MT=JDaZ5iazUmpj4w@mail.gmail.com>

You probably already guessed I am as well.

Check out our meetup study group! Sundays 10am-ish till 1 pm-ish

Stefan
On Feb 27, 2012 6:25 PM, "tim shores" <lee.shoe at gmail.com> wrote:

>  i am.
>
>
> -tim
>
>
> On 2/27/2012 6:23 PM, Louise Fox wrote:
>
> I am!
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Al Jigong Billings <albill at openbuddha.com
> > wrote:
>
>>  Who else is taking Model Thinking?
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: Model Thinking is Open for
>> Registration!  Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000  From: Model
>> Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org> <noreply at coursera.org>  To:
>> albill at openbuddha.com
>>
>> Dear Al Billings,
>>
>> Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please go to
>> https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>to create an account and to enroll.
>>
>> Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing the first
>> lecture videos, and participate in the discussion forum. The first
>> assignments will also be made available shortly. Note that if this is the
>> first time you're logging into a course, you will need to create a new
>> account with us, which you can then use to login to all of our courses.
>>
>> Please go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!
>>
>> Coursera Staff
>>
>> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please reply to
>> staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>
>
>  --
> Louise Fox
> Mechanical Engineer
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing listDiscuss at lists.acemonstertoys.orghttp://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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From lee.shoe at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 20:11:29 2012
From: lee.shoe at gmail.com (tim shores)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:11:29 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwy4WP1HTz1Y0XiNYktjirwNs+XL=MT=JDaZ5iazUmpj4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00000135b8c8293b-6594d65c-3bc1-40eb-b34a-9dc068ee28f5-000000@email.amazonses.com>
	<4F4C3A4A.2020002@openbuddha.com>
	<CAPxmc0HdeygxNsJCZ8=U0G6Egyd4Um-b8V648j8ayGA3X0SgPA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F4C3B03.6030002@gmail.com>
	<CAPdpSwy4WP1HTz1Y0XiNYktjirwNs+XL=MT=JDaZ5iazUmpj4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F4C53F1.6090204@gmail.com>

well i just might!

-tim


On 2/27/2012 6:51 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>
> You probably already guessed I am as well.
>
> Check out our meetup study group! Sundays 10am-ish till 1 pm-ish
>
> Stefan
>
> On Feb 27, 2012 6:25 PM, "tim shores" <lee.shoe at gmail.com 
> <mailto:lee.shoe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     i am.
>
>     -tim
>
>
>     On 2/27/2012 6:23 PM, Louise Fox wrote:
>>     I am!
>>
>>     On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Al Jigong Billings
>>     <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Who else is taking Model Thinking?
>>
>>         -------- Original Message --------
>>         Subject: 	Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
>>         Date: 	Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000
>>         From: 	Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
>>         <mailto:noreply at coursera.org>
>>         To: 	albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Dear Al Billings,
>>
>>         Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please
>>         go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>>         <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>         to create an account and to enroll.
>>
>>         Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing
>>         the first lecture videos, and participate in the discussion
>>         forum. The first assignments will also be made available
>>         shortly. Note that if this is the first time you're logging
>>         into a course, you will need to create a new account with us,
>>         which you can then use to login to all of our courses.
>>
>>         Please go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>>         <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>         to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!
>>
>>         Coursera Staff
>>
>>         If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please
>>         reply to staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>>
>>
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         Discuss mailing list
>>         Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>         <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>>         http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Louise Fox
>>     Mechanical Engineer
>>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Discuss mailing list
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>
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From biff at cliffle.com  Mon Feb 27 20:34:12 2012
From: biff at cliffle.com (Cliff L. Biffle)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:34:12 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Cliff is famous
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXe++z1Wf0rEmuwwfui121o7m2N6GAgxVv4jPjTdMrV2B_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXe++z1Wf0rEmuwwfui121o7m2N6GAgxVv4jPjTdMrV2B_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+hY8Pr0AXd9fPQG8GKmUJhYP3ebCkHXXHj+=g5TbcmqbiJWPw@mail.gmail.com>

Eh, the proper infill setting varies with the part.  For my chess pieces I
actually use a script I wrote to stitch together two gcode scripts --
heavier fill at the base, lighter at the top.  Makes them stand up better.
On Feb 27, 2012 2:18 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Makerbot printed 392 of his chess pieces to demonstrate how much you
> can print with 1kg of plastic (They turned it down to 5% infill though
> which I feel is a bit cheaty since the default is 20%)
>
>
> http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2012/02/24/a-matter-of-scales-how-much-can-you-print-with-a-single-1kg-spool/
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From drorex at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 22:06:48 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:06:48 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Venus Famili sent you a message: Mendel Prusa molds
In-Reply-To: <970825943.1330407153573.JavaMail.nobody@app4.meetup.com>
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Hi,

I personally don't know a whole lot about them, but I'm forwarding your
question to our mailing list (which I recommend you join, click 'mailing
list' on acemonstertoys.org). I know Al made a set of parts from them and
started assembling them, but later switched to a different 3d printer. I'm
not sure anyone else has really gotten any good use out of them since. It
depends on what is the difference between SAE and metric. If it's just hole
size, then it'll probably work, since you have to drill the holes anyway &
you can pick the size you need.

I hope this helps you figure it out.
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> Prusa molds
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From rachel at xtreme.com  Tue Feb 28 01:23:38 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 01:23:38 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwy4WP1HTz1Y0XiNYktjirwNs+XL=MT=JDaZ5iazUmpj4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00000135b8c8293b-6594d65c-3bc1-40eb-b34a-9dc068ee28f5-000000@email.amazonses.com>
	<4F4C3A4A.2020002@openbuddha.com>
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I am!  And I probably have to miss the very first meeting (this Sun, 
right?) due to relatives in town.  Argh.

Registering now.

Rachel

On 2/27/12 6:51 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
> You probably already guessed I am as well.
>
> Check out our meetup study group! Sundays 10am-ish till 1 pm-ish
>
> Stefan
>
> On Feb 27, 2012 6:25 PM, "tim shores" <lee.shoe at gmail.com
> <mailto:lee.shoe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     i am.
>
>     -tim
>
>
>     On 2/27/2012 6:23 PM, Louise Fox wrote:
>>     I am!
>>
>>     On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Al Jigong Billings
>>     <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Who else is taking Model Thinking?
>>
>>         -------- Original Message --------
>>         Subject: 	Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
>>         Date: 	Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000
>>         From: 	Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
>>         <mailto:noreply at coursera.org>
>>         To: 	albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Dear Al Billings,
>>
>>         Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please
>>         go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>>         <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>         to create an account and to enroll.
>>
>>         Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing
>>         the first lecture videos, and participate in the discussion
>>         forum. The first assignments will also be made available
>>         shortly. Note that if this is the first time you're logging
>>         into a course, you will need to create a new account with us,
>>         which you can then use to login to all of our courses.
>>
>>         Please go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>>         <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>         to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!
>>
>>         Coursera Staff
>>
>>         If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please
>>         reply to staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>>
>>
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         Discuss mailing list
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>>         <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>>         http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     Louise Fox
>>     Mechanical Engineer
>>
>>
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From rachel at xtreme.com  Tue Feb 28 01:46:18 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 01:46:18 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
In-Reply-To: <4F4C9D1A.7040306@xtreme.com>
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What do we want?  Evidence based change!
When do we want it?   After peer review!

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/425444_10150547538058842_81726718841_8876171_1832055449_n.jpg

(OK it's the second meeting I may have to miss.  This Sunday I will attend!)

Rachel

On 2/28/12 1:23 AM, Rachel McConnell wrote:
> I am! And I probably have to miss the very first meeting (this Sun,
> right?) due to relatives in town. Argh.
>
> Registering now.
>
> Rachel
>
> On 2/27/12 6:51 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>> You probably already guessed I am as well.
>>
>> Check out our meetup study group! Sundays 10am-ish till 1 pm-ish
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2012 6:25 PM, "tim shores" <lee.shoe at gmail.com
>> <mailto:lee.shoe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> i am.
>>
>> -tim
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/2012 6:23 PM, Louise Fox wrote:
>>> I am!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Al Jigong Billings
>>> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Who else is taking Model Thinking?
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000
>>> From: Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
>>> <mailto:noreply at coursera.org>
>>> To: albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Al Billings,
>>>
>>> Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please
>>> go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>>> <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>
>>> to create an account and to enroll.
>>>
>>> Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing
>>> the first lecture videos, and participate in the discussion
>>> forum. The first assignments will also be made available
>>> shortly. Note that if this is the first time you're logging
>>> into a course, you will need to create a new account with us,
>>> which you can then use to login to all of our courses.
>>>
>>> Please go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>>> <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>
>>> to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!
>>>
>>> Coursera Staff
>>>
>>> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please
>>> reply to staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> <mailto:Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org>
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Louise Fox
>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
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>>
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From crafty.avenger at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 08:35:39 2012
From: crafty.avenger at gmail.com (crafty)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:35:39 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
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I too shall be taking the course. though I am not sure about making the
first meeting.

Rach

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> What do we want?  Evidence based change!
> When do we want it?   After peer review!
>
> http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.**net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/**
> 425444_10150547538058842_**81726718841_8876171_**1832055449_n.jpg<http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/425444_10150547538058842_81726718841_8876171_1832055449_n.jpg>
>
> (OK it's the second meeting I may have to miss.  This Sunday I will
> attend!)
>
> Rachel
>
>
> On 2/28/12 1:23 AM, Rachel McConnell wrote:
>
>> I am! And I probably have to miss the very first meeting (this Sun,
>> right?) due to relatives in town. Argh.
>>
>> Registering now.
>>
>> Rachel
>>
>> On 2/27/12 6:51 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>>
>>> You probably already guessed I am as well.
>>>
>>> Check out our meetup study group! Sundays 10am-ish till 1 pm-ish
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2012 6:25 PM, "tim shores" <lee.shoe at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:lee.shoe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> i am.
>>>
>>> -tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/27/2012 6:23 PM, Louise Fox wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Al Jigong Billings
>>>> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>**> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Who else is taking Model Thinking?
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
>>>> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000
>>>> From: Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
>>>> <mailto:noreply at coursera.org>
>>>> To: albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Al Billings,
>>>>
>>>> Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please
>>>> go to https://www.coursera.org/**modelthinking/<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/>
>>>> <https://www.coursera.org/**modelthinking/auth/welcome?**
>>>> direct=true&email=albill@**openbuddha.com<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> to create an account and to enroll.
>>>>
>>>> Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing
>>>> the first lecture videos, and participate in the discussion
>>>> forum. The first assignments will also be made available
>>>> shortly. Note that if this is the first time you're logging
>>>> into a course, you will need to create a new account with us,
>>>> which you can then use to login to all of our courses.
>>>>
>>>> Please go to https://www.coursera.org/**modelthinking/<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/>
>>>> <https://www.coursera.org/**modelthinking/auth/welcome?**
>>>> direct=true&email=albill@**openbuddha.com<https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!
>>>>
>>>> Coursera Staff
>>>>
>>>> If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please
>>>> reply to staff+unsubscribe at free-class.**org<staff%2Bunsubscribe at free-class.org>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> >
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.**org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**discuss<http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> >
>>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.**org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**discuss<http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
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From albill at openbuddha.com  Tue Feb 28 08:42:32 2012
From: albill at openbuddha.com (Al Jigong Billings)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:42:32 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Fwd: Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
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I'm running a retreat so I can't come either this week.



On Feb 28, 2012, at 1:23 AM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:

> I am!  And I probably have to miss the very first meeting (this Sun, right?) due to relatives in town.  Argh.
> 
> Registering now.
> 
> Rachel
> 
> On 2/27/12 6:51 PM, Stefan Hristu wrote:
>> You probably already guessed I am as well.
>> 
>> Check out our meetup study group! Sundays 10am-ish till 1 pm-ish
>> 
>> Stefan
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2012 6:25 PM, "tim shores" <lee.shoe at gmail.com
>> <mailto:lee.shoe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    i am.
>> 
>>    -tim
>> 
>> 
>>    On 2/27/2012 6:23 PM, Louise Fox wrote:
>>>    I am!
>>> 
>>>    On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Al Jigong Billings
>>>    <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>        Who else is taking Model Thinking?
>>> 
>>>        -------- Original Message --------
>>>        Subject:    Model Thinking is Open for Registration!
>>>        Date:    Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:30:19 +0000
>>>        From:    Model Thinking Course Staff <noreply at coursera.org>
>>>        <mailto:noreply at coursera.org>
>>>        To:    albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>        Dear Al Billings,
>>> 
>>>        Enrollment for the Model Thinking course is now open. Please
>>>        go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>>>        <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>        to create an account and to enroll.
>>> 
>>>        Once you are enrolled, you will also be able to start seeing
>>>        the first lecture videos, and participate in the discussion
>>>        forum. The first assignments will also be made available
>>>        shortly. Note that if this is the first time you're logging
>>>        into a course, you will need to create a new account with us,
>>>        which you can then use to login to all of our courses.
>>> 
>>>        Please go to https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/
>>>        <https://www.coursera.org/modelthinking/auth/welcome?direct=true&email=albill at openbuddha.com>
>>>        to enroll. We look forward to seeing you in class!
>>> 
>>>        Coursera Staff
>>> 
>>>        If you do not wish to receive any more emails from us, please
>>>        reply to staff+unsubscribe at free-class.org.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>        _______________________________________________
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    --
>>>    Louise Fox
>>>    Mechanical Engineer
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    _______________________________________________
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From drorex at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 10:10:22 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:10:22 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Testing list
Message-ID: <CACAQXe+tJNo0+Mq4oh7jwP19N_EgphAbWLjmaiEe2t3HD-BWtA@mail.gmail.com>

Just making sure it still works. We've been getting a lot of russian
spam, so I set it to block anything with russian encoding or from a
.ru address.


From drorex at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 16:05:00 2012
From: drorex at gmail.com (David Rorex)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:05:00 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game session saturday 3pm
Message-ID: <CACAQXeK+_gbHbCu2O=0rEeUofBE5HfCVeDDR_dFbsMSidjTN7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone up for trying to get this game going again? It's lots of fun if
we can get enough people playing.


From rachel at xtreme.com  Tue Feb 28 17:29:18 2012
From: rachel at xtreme.com (Rachel McConnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:29:18 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game session saturday 3pm
In-Reply-To: <CACAQXeK+_gbHbCu2O=0rEeUofBE5HfCVeDDR_dFbsMSidjTN7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeK+_gbHbCu2O=0rEeUofBE5HfCVeDDR_dFbsMSidjTN7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45A3A275-5539-4CD0-85A4-978AD4387677@xtreme.com>

Yes! I will come then.

-Rachel

On Feb 28, 2012, at 16:05, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone up for trying to get this game going again? It's lots of fun if
> we can get enough people playing.
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From romanian at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 17:38:30 2012
From: romanian at gmail.com (Stefan Hristu)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:38:30 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game session saturday 3pm
In-Reply-To: <45A3A275-5539-4CD0-85A4-978AD4387677@xtreme.com>
References: <CACAQXeK+_gbHbCu2O=0rEeUofBE5HfCVeDDR_dFbsMSidjTN7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<45A3A275-5539-4CD0-85A4-978AD4387677@xtreme.com>
Message-ID: <CAPdpSwxr3VmNT38Oz6b216daQjadkGSS1_7gs24cADjyDj5hTQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'll try to make it out as well.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
> Yes! I will come then.
>
> -Rachel
>
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 16:05, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone up for trying to get this game going again? It's lots of fun if
>> we can get enough people playing.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
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From mspiegelmock at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 18:00:58 2012
From: mspiegelmock at gmail.com (Mischa Spiegelmock)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:00:58 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game session saturday 3pm
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwxr3VmNT38Oz6b216daQjadkGSS1_7gs24cADjyDj5hTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeK+_gbHbCu2O=0rEeUofBE5HfCVeDDR_dFbsMSidjTN7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<45A3A275-5539-4CD0-85A4-978AD4387677@xtreme.com>
	<CAPdpSwxr3VmNT38Oz6b216daQjadkGSS1_7gs24cADjyDj5hTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM-dY3F67faBhB5i4jK4ADddjPH8gNXbYsFtXbH5W-Ms0bX1+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I can probably come, let us know if this is happening for real closer
to saturday

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll try to make it out as well.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
>> Yes! I will come then.
>>
>> -Rachel
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 16:05, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone up for trying to get this game going again? It's lots of fun if
>>> we can get enough people playing.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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From interrupt80h at gmail.com  Tue Feb 28 18:02:17 2012
From: interrupt80h at gmail.com (interrupt80h at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:02:17 -0800
Subject: [AMTD] Artemis game session saturday 3pm
In-Reply-To: <CAPdpSwxr3VmNT38Oz6b216daQjadkGSS1_7gs24cADjyDj5hTQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAQXeK+_gbHbCu2O=0rEeUofBE5HfCVeDDR_dFbsMSidjTN7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<45A3A275-5539-4CD0-85A4-978AD4387677@xtreme.com>
	<CAPdpSwxr3VmNT38Oz6b216daQjadkGSS1_7gs24cADjyDj5hTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM-dY3EsiO=9pXDvwytJ7mAbMVM2ywtG_3RSW5=8+GUDAGonSw@mail.gmail.com>

I can probably come, let us know if this is happening for real closer
to saturday


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Stefan Hristu <romanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'll try to make it out as well.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
>> Yes! I will come then.
>>
>> -Rachel
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 16:05, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone up for trying to get this game going again? It's lots of fun if
>>> we can get enough people playing.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss at lists.acemonstertoys.org
>> http://lists.acemonstertoys.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
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